Hmm, I'm rethinking this, at least for right now. There aren't really any good Odd-cost Dragons in standard that would make "if you're holding a Dragon" synergy viable. You've got alexstraza, Ysera, ....and then what? From my past Dragon/"If you're holding a Dragon" deck days, you generally need 6 to 8 Dragons minimum to make the synergy consistent.
We'll see. I hope this isn't simply a "well it will be good at some point, but not right now" kind of card.
Here is my take using the two dragons you mentioned, along with 2 amalgamations and 2 Cobalt Scalebanes
Regis is the only streamer who look likes good ol' Ben. But damn he sucks, so please stop it right now.
Care to explain?
Do you mean he is not a good player? - He regularly finishes in the top 300 legend when he tries to be competitive.
Do you mean he is not entertaining? - While obviously subjective, the folks at Blizzard disagree as do the many people who enjoy his streams and youtube content
Do you mean he doesn't know how to evaluate cards? - Again, somewhat subjective - however he has a fairly good track record in the past compared to most popular evaluators.
Do you mean he is not edgy/salty enough for you? - I'll give you that one, but for many including Blizzard that's what makes him perfect for the job.
Also as a side note, remind the world to shit this hard on you the next time you do something for the first time.
Problem: Shriek and Reckless Diretroll would be bad in the same hand, unless they make a "I want to discard" card at one or two mana so you could play shriek first.
But the same problem applies: You're discarding cards for...what exactly? The warlock quest is an utter joke. Jeklik up there is interesting as a discard option, but what's the discard deck's win condition? Warlock cards with the discard mechanic have always been unusable at best or generally had their discard mechanic "played around" such as with the weapon or deck summons.
Believe it or not Regis Killbin has been playing a quest warlock deck that while not good per say, is definitely not an utter joke. I believe he was getting a win rate in the 40-45% range.
Put together a rough spreadsheet to get the stats on this:
Tier 1 - Good Outcome (above the value curve for 7 mana): Blackguard (x4), Cairne Bloodhoof, Damaged Stegatron, Frozen Crusher, Hungry Ettin, Illidan Stormrage, Mechanical Welp - (10 chances total)
Tier 2 - Fine Outcome (will not likely influence win/loss): Sunkeeper Tarim (x4), Archmage, Bone Drake, Bolderfist Ogre, Furnacefire Colossus, Gadgetzan Auctioneer, Hemet Junglehunter, Hogger, Missle Launcher, Necrotic Guist, Nerubian Unraveler, Reckless Rocketeer, Sabretooth Stalker, Spark Drill, The Beast, Windfury Harpy - (19 chances total)
Tier 3 - Bad Outcome (below the value curve for 7 mana): Crystal Lion (x4), Glowstone Tech (x4), Arcane Dynamo, Argent Commander, Frost Elemental, Genn Greymane, Lord of the Arena, Mossy Horror, Priestess of Elune, Skulking Guist, Spell Weaver, Sunwalker, The Black Knight - (19 total Chances)
According to the stats - you should on average see at least a Tier 1 pick in 50.4% of Discovers and at least a Tier 2 pick in 93.8% of plays. I tried to take the cards with situational value into account since they are likely to be picked and valuable when the situation calls. (A lesson I learned from my analysis of all Zombeasts back in the day)
I think this will work in an odd warrior. You can pull Baku or the Direhorns. It could be drawn with the Town Crier if you have a rush package. Plus odd warrior got that 3 mana execute on a stick. You can shoehorn a few dragons in (especially Amalgam which is also a mech)
Actually Zentimo works with Ancestral Spirit and with the Shaman Spellstone as well. I would think it works very well in the Big Overload Shaman deck. Control the board, summon big giants, make them continuously resummon themselves. Eventually you play Zentimo + Windfury and win. You could even play Snowfury + Snowfury + Zentimo + Electra + Ancestral Spirit (hitting both giants and Zentimo) + Earthen Might (on both giants and Electra - gaining 3 elementals in hand).
Then pray your opponent doesn't have Zentimo into Hex.
I believe that the intention of the interaction with Ice Walker was to have it freeze all three minions. Why else would it be in the deck and why would Peter Walen a Lead Dev say it would work that way. My guess is it is bugged. I hope they patch it before release.
I am looking forward to playing fire fly + flame elemental + Zentimo + Earthen Might for 9/13 in stats over 3 bodies, plus 2 elementals in hand (for 7 mana)
I have been playing the game since the original release. I regularly rank up to somewhere in the rank 3-4 range, haven't ever really had time to push to legend and I don't like playing net decks. If all you are analyzing is perfect play then of course he didn't do well. But unless you have had time to study up on the cards (he said he wanted to be surprised so he didn't find out what the cards were, though he may have seen the non-played cards just prior to the stream) I doubt you would play them perfectly either. My guess is if you were on that stream there would be critical people like yourself ripping you apart too. The goal for the hosts is to showcase cards, be entertaining and muse lightly on the cards while trying not to be critical (duh). Besides the ridiculous level of arrogance your comment showed, you failed to explain one reason why you could remotely come to the conclusion. Seems like you got the down-votes for a reason, maybe?
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Here is my take using the two dragons you mentioned, along with 2 amalgamations and 2 Cobalt Scalebanes
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Earthen Might would be good in this deck
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You will draw 1 of the Shirvallah at the beginning of your turn, if you want to use both Holy Wrath's you need to shuffle 3 Shirvallah.
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Care to explain?
Do you mean he is not a good player? - He regularly finishes in the top 300 legend when he tries to be competitive.
Do you mean he is not entertaining? - While obviously subjective, the folks at Blizzard disagree as do the many people who enjoy his streams and youtube content
Do you mean he doesn't know how to evaluate cards? - Again, somewhat subjective - however he has a fairly good track record in the past compared to most popular evaluators.
Do you mean he is not edgy/salty enough for you? - I'll give you that one, but for many including Blizzard that's what makes him perfect for the job.
Also as a side note, remind the world to shit this hard on you the next time you do something for the first time.
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Believe it or not Regis Killbin has been playing a quest warlock deck that while not good per say, is definitely not an utter joke. I believe he was getting a win rate in the 40-45% range.
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Put together a rough spreadsheet to get the stats on this:
Tier 1 - Good Outcome (above the value curve for 7 mana): Blackguard (x4), Cairne Bloodhoof, Damaged Stegatron, Frozen Crusher, Hungry Ettin, Illidan Stormrage, Mechanical Welp - (10 chances total)
Tier 2 - Fine Outcome (will not likely influence win/loss): Sunkeeper Tarim (x4), Archmage, Bone Drake, Bolderfist Ogre, Furnacefire Colossus, Gadgetzan Auctioneer, Hemet Junglehunter, Hogger, Missle Launcher, Necrotic Guist, Nerubian Unraveler, Reckless Rocketeer, Sabretooth Stalker, Spark Drill, The Beast, Windfury Harpy - (19 chances total)
Tier 3 - Bad Outcome (below the value curve for 7 mana): Crystal Lion (x4), Glowstone Tech (x4), Arcane Dynamo, Argent Commander, Frost Elemental, Genn Greymane, Lord of the Arena, Mossy Horror, Priestess of Elune, Skulking Guist, Spell Weaver, Sunwalker, The Black Knight - (19 total Chances)
According to the stats - you should on average see at least a Tier 1 pick in 50.4% of Discovers and at least a Tier 2 pick in 93.8% of plays. I tried to take the cards with situational value into account since they are likely to be picked and valuable when the situation calls. (A lesson I learned from my analysis of all Zombeasts back in the day)
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Here is my take on the Shirvallah Holy Wrath Deck
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While this is true, it is also a 6 card combo (compared to 2 cards)
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Stormwind Knight proved to be less reliable than shadow madness. If the meta was right, it might be better.
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I think this will work in an odd warrior. You can pull Baku or the Direhorns. It could be drawn with the Town Crier if you have a rush package. Plus odd warrior got that 3 mana execute on a stick. You can shoehorn a few dragons in (especially Amalgam which is also a mech)
Here is a rough draft:
(I imagine more dragons will be incoming - haha imagine dragons)
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Actually Zentimo works with Ancestral Spirit and with the Shaman Spellstone as well. I would think it works very well in the Big Overload Shaman deck. Control the board, summon big giants, make them continuously resummon themselves. Eventually you play Zentimo + Windfury and win. You could even play Snowfury + Snowfury + Zentimo + Electra + Ancestral Spirit (hitting both giants and Zentimo) + Earthen Might (on both giants and Electra - gaining 3 elementals in hand).
Then pray your opponent doesn't have Zentimo into Hex.
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I believe that the intention of the interaction with Ice Walker was to have it freeze all three minions. Why else would it be in the deck and why would Peter Walen a Lead Dev say it would work that way. My guess is it is bugged. I hope they patch it before release.
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I am looking forward to playing fire fly + flame elemental + Zentimo + Earthen Might for 9/13 in stats over 3 bodies, plus 2 elementals in hand (for 7 mana)
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I have been playing the game since the original release. I regularly rank up to somewhere in the rank 3-4 range, haven't ever really had time to push to legend and I don't like playing net decks. If all you are analyzing is perfect play then of course he didn't do well. But unless you have had time to study up on the cards (he said he wanted to be surprised so he didn't find out what the cards were, though he may have seen the non-played cards just prior to the stream) I doubt you would play them perfectly either. My guess is if you were on that stream there would be critical people like yourself ripping you apart too. The goal for the hosts is to showcase cards, be entertaining and muse lightly on the cards while trying not to be critical (duh). Besides the ridiculous level of arrogance your comment showed, you failed to explain one reason why you could remotely come to the conclusion. Seems like you got the down-votes for a reason, maybe?
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This seems like it has natural synergy with Baku the mooneater. This actually makes Baku in hand into a strong tempo play.