While I agree that more nerfs are needed, in my opinion the only class that needs it is Warrior. Remove Boom's rush from mechs and this Meta would change considerably.
I think the problem with Priest is that if you want to play aggro there are better classes. If you want to play midrange there are better classes. If you want to play control there are better classes. And if you want to play combo, there are better classes.
Generally speaking Priest does well when it has either great control or great combo tools. It has neither at the moment. Or at least not a critical mass of such tools.
Priest probably need either a top shelf board clear or a nice tutor to push them into relevance again.
Agree. Shadow visions and Psychic scream are missed.
Shadow visions and Psychic Scream are certainly not missed.
Psychic Scream was the most broken aoe that probably ever existed in HS , and Shadow Visions helped to reliably get the spells to win their mu like nothing seen before. ( Just imagine how broken it would be in Rogue atm )
The problem with Priest is that IF the class is viable it has usually good anti aggro tools, and by default Priest has good anti Control cards , either by OTKing your opponent or by overwhelming via value with cards like Mindcontrol or other steal effects. That’s why the meta feels relatively balanced. A lot of classes have a chance against each other, and the most viable OTK deck ( Shirvalla Paladin) wich is actually more like a two turn kill, has to interact way more than Priest ever had to do plus it always has to go to fatuige to win consistently.
Buffing more arms was the right choice into the right direction. Strong Minions, Buff effects, and "Board interactive" aoe . Everything else would simply be oppressive and unfun to play against.
Ah, the lame "...would simply be oppressive and unfun to play against." argument. If that is a metric as to what cards or classes should or should not be in the meta, then Bomb Warrior and Conjurer's Mage should not exist. The argument that it is "unfun" to play against just plain stupid and intellectually dishonest.
Look at the last meta, while it was time for it to end, it was one of the best, and balanced metas that Hearthstone has ever had, and this was a meta that included a strong Priest presence. Yes, I'm sure the "but rez priest was unfun to play against" argument will come to mind immediately, where as I would say yes, it was a very competitive deck, but it was not any where near as oppressive as Conjurer's Mage is right now.
I wouldn't have any complaints if Shadow Visions or Psychic Scream were to be added to the Priest core set. It would at least give them a fighting chance in each Meta, rather than being at the bottom for 80% of the year. Yes yes, Priest has had their time, their very short time of being powerful, yet repeatedly other classes stay at the top of the meta the majority of the time, *cough* Warrior, Druid *cough* and people seem fine with that, oddly enough.
The only reason cards of that power need to be given to Priest is their core set is so poor. But Team 5, or what ever they are going by now, in their infinite wisdom have said, repeatedly, that Priest will be helped only through card expansions.
I like it as well, though it struggles against shaman and rogue (aggro, board control), and against the cancer that is Conjurer's Calling Mage. I've tried teching in two Pyros in place of the Shadowform to deal with this. Mixed results so far. Like most Priest decks so far it feels close, but needs some additional support.
I would like to, at some point, but can't now. One reason, the "Decks " section. If you filter by "Standard" it still shows Wild decks. For example, go to Priest, filter to "Standard". There is a Dragon Priest deck listed that contains Dusk Breaker and Drakanoid Operative.
This is the Dekkster Wall Priest deck. It's decent, recently went from 15 to ~7 using it. It can struggle against aggro, especially if you don't draw any of the 5 mana minions or spells (Holy Nova and Mass Hysteria).
So I was just redirected to the URL below when I visited Hearthpwn on my Android phone. It's one of those ones that you can't back out of. Only way is to close the tab. I've removed some identifying info.
I love these style of fun decks, but they are just that, fun. They will have ~30-40% win rate against the current meta, I know because I've been playing something very similar (minus topsy, tinkmaster, plus 2 Thoughtsteal, Madam Luzul).
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While I agree that more nerfs are needed, in my opinion the only class that needs it is Warrior. Remove Boom's rush from mechs and this Meta would change considerably.
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Ah, the lame "...would simply be oppressive and unfun to play against." argument. If that is a metric as to what cards or classes should or should not be in the meta, then Bomb Warrior and Conjurer's Mage should not exist. The argument that it is "unfun" to play against just plain stupid and intellectually dishonest.
Look at the last meta, while it was time for it to end, it was one of the best, and balanced metas that Hearthstone has ever had, and this was a meta that included a strong Priest presence. Yes, I'm sure the "but rez priest was unfun to play against" argument will come to mind immediately, where as I would say yes, it was a very competitive deck, but it was not any where near as oppressive as Conjurer's Mage is right now.
I wouldn't have any complaints if Shadow Visions or Psychic Scream were to be added to the Priest core set. It would at least give them a fighting chance in each Meta, rather than being at the bottom for 80% of the year. Yes yes, Priest has had their time, their very short time of being powerful, yet repeatedly other classes stay at the top of the meta the majority of the time, *cough* Warrior, Druid *cough* and people seem fine with that, oddly enough.
The only reason cards of that power need to be given to Priest is their core set is so poor. But Team 5, or what ever they are going by now, in their infinite wisdom have said, repeatedly, that Priest will be helped only through card expansions.
edit: formatting
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I like it as well, though it struggles against shaman and rogue (aggro, board control), and against the cancer that is Conjurer's Calling Mage. I've tried teching in two Pyros in place of the Shadowform to deal with this. Mixed results so far. Like most Priest decks so far it feels close, but needs some additional support.
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I would like to, at some point, but can't now. One reason, the "Decks " section. If you filter by "Standard" it still shows Wild decks. For example, go to Priest, filter to "Standard". There is a Dragon Priest deck listed that contains Dusk Breaker and Drakanoid Operative.
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I haven't played a game in weeks and I feel great!
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This is the Dekkster Wall Priest deck. It's decent, recently went from 15 to ~7 using it. It can struggle against aggro, especially if you don't draw any of the 5 mana minions or spells (Holy Nova and Mass Hysteria).
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> A lot... Nomi Priest is tier 2 and this seems much easier to build around.
Tier 2?? LOL! Tier 4, bottom Tier 3 at best.
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thanks!
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So I was just redirected to the URL below when I visited Hearthpwn on my Android phone. It's one of those ones that you can't back out of. Only way is to close the tab. I've removed some identifying info.
And you wonder why people use AdBlock.
http://goodluckday.site/prize/luckyus-ad/lp2.php?c=2kzh8tc9z2xz2&k=e5e30c248879128f349bb44c9c231037&country_code=US&country_name=United States&region=&city=&isp=&lang=en&ref_domain=&os=Android&osv=9.&browser=Chrome&browserv=74&brand=unknown&model=unknown&marketing_name= 2 XL&tablet=2&rheight=0&rwidth=0&e=5
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Yes, insanely boring. While I don't want to go back to the previous Meta, I loved the fact that each class had a place.
This Meta is Rogue, Warrior, Mage, with a sprinkle of Shaman and Druid.
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I love these style of fun decks, but they are just that, fun. They will have ~30-40% win rate against the current meta, I know because I've been playing something very similar (minus topsy, tinkmaster, plus 2 Thoughtsteal, Madam Luzul).
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Just shows you how lame this meta is when the majority of the "fun and exciting" decks are from the same classes that are dominating the meta.
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I haven't played a game in weeks and it feels great!
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So fun and interactive!
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Priest has not been top tier for 2/3 years. You have no idea what you are talking about.