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1 word why this card is at the very top of neutral common (along with pioleted shreder) but never seen in constructed.
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wow this card breaks the rng scale. You could instantly win or instantly lose with it.
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This card looks really good, health isn't nearly as valuable as mana. It is a class specific lock card though. You can clearly see how you can play this and then say like dark bomb or shadowbolt or hell fire or shadowflame (you dont' have to shadowflame him you could shadowflame a less valuable minion if you have one). This card will probably belong in a reno or hand lock deck. ...and yet another better version of war golem, time to buff war golem to 7/8 maybe?
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murlock pally is probably the best hard counter. Priest struggles vs OTK and sustained preasure like reno lock with jeraxus.
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Oh so true. At top levels i'd say secret pally is only tier 1.5. But it is by far the easiest deck to play for a top tier/near top tier deck. Leg capable and easy to play. Here's a break down of the difficulty of other top tier decks:
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Oil rogue - need to know when to go for board control, when to go for damage, when to draw cards. Often times you have to decided when to play for tempo and when to get value out of combos and which combo order should be triggered. Your hand is often times full and looking at the cards will make you dizzy. You also need to count damage rigorously and plan multiple turns. You will play multiple cards many turns and it's very order dependent.
Freez mage - Similar to oil rogue in that you have to plan several turns and your hand is full allowing for many lines of play. I rank it slightly easier than rogue because at least there's no combos to worry about. But then again if you've ever watched top level freeze mage vs freeze mage you'll understand why it's hard.
Patron warrior - You need to know when to draw cards, mulligan can be quite different vs different decks. Lots of big turns. Sometimes you have to save cards for key turns even though you have mana to spare. You need to know how to bait removal and how to set up your board to be resilient. Filling the board is often a bad idea. Playing a 0 mana 3/3 taunt dread corsair can be the wrong thing to do when you should play it the next turn instead. Know which match up's you can just make patrons and which match up's you need to draw cards or armor up with patron inner rate or patron armorsmith combo.
Zoo lock - Your cards are cheap, there's often times multiple options, you need to find the best one. There's a lot of mechanics with number of minions. You also need to know when to tap and when to develop board
Agro shaman - Face decks seems pretty simple. But add the overload factor and card draw and all of a sudden it's not all that easy. Agro shaman is by far the hardest face deck to play much harder than face hunter which is fairly easy.
Mid range druid - Fairly strait forward, ...if not for the mana curve manipulations, which does require some turn buy turn planning especially in the early game. Otherwise you usually just pick from 1 of 2 minions 2 drop and usually one at a time so not that hard. Plan is simple, establish board with good minions, chip away at hp and try to finish with force of nature savage roar if conditions allow.
Temp mage - Tick is to know when to save spells to combo with minions. Understanding how minions like flame waker are more important to the deck than the actually spells to use it with is key. Knowing when to hold back spells and when you have to use them is the key to being a good tempo mage. I'd say mid difficulty deck.
Reno lock - tap, tap, tap azure drake, mountain giant, play somethings and tap, molten giant reno, taunt, play somethings, healbot, play some things, jeraxus, void caller into malganis, win.
Control priest - Aoe and keep the board clear.
Dragon priest - just try to hold on to a dragon, get value out of barn late game play for tempo early game. Save light bomb for when you need it otherwise fairly easy to play.
Control warrior - armor remove armor remove armor remove win.
Secret pally - play on curve not hard. Bearly requires any planning.
Face hunter - Click face, thank god it's not very good right now (oh and mid range hunter is even worse)
Easiest
Note: t3 and below decks not included in list.
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reno lock is the only really good reno deck. The answer is not well, apart from oil rogue and priest decks. Reno lock is the worst match up. Not because of reno but because of hell fire and shadow flame.
On the other hand you have good match up's with mid range druid, very good match up's with freez mage and secret pally. Good vs face hunter. Slightly favored vs aggro shaman. So you beat like 2/3 of the meta decks (assuming you play it well) which is great.
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You don't have to have boom, he's optional in fact. Even gromash is more important. But with rag? no way. Just put in more patron related cards. Say 2nd unstable ghoul or cruel task master or revenge.
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interesting, I find control warrior one of the harder decks to count with their brawl + weapon. Even then it's a pretty even match. Control priest, oil rogue, dragon priest, reno lock, in that order are the hardest decks for patron, least for me.