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It was a free card that completely dominated the meta for a good while. It’s fine for it to be weak now. Now if they would finally just nerf bran…

I'll give it a try, but I'm guessing the Blood DK and Druid are just too much for these aggro decks.

I know a lot of you disagree, but these decks illustrate once again why the discover mechanic is bad for HS. Dealing with 2 of DK's hard board clears is one thing, but dealing with 4 of them? It's too much. Targeted discover for Druid is brutal. Most discover cards become must include cards. 

I'm surprised Denathrius is unchanged. With the Prince, it's the most included card in the game. It's the universal win condition for all decks and all classes. And this new set is very token heavy. 

What’s the plan here? 6 mana to get the card. Next turn, 3 mana to discover a spell…then play the spell and your turn is over? I don’t think it adds up. There’s already a 2 mana discover a spell for priest…and it’s discover a spell in your deck, so you get something you want.

So, on turn ten you might get a poor man’s denathrius?

I've played a bit of Snap. It's fun, but it's very simply strategically. All decks are just slightly different versions of token decks - get stuff out there and buff it. There's not much variety. I imagine the meta has been sovled already, though I haven't tried to netdeck anything. It may be more of a "gotta catch them all" collecting game than a strategic game.

And, after a week or so of playing, the game slows down A LOT in terms of experience and becomes pretty grindy. My guess is that once people blow through the first week of quick rewards, the interest will start to slow down. 

There are a few annoying things about the game: instead of daily quests, quests are on a timer. The collection is just one huge list of cards. There is no horizontal mode, which makes playing on an iPad annoying.        

0/3 for me. 

1. Make the quest count for ranked only. 

2. Buff the dragon already. Make him 4 mana. Make him seriously tempting to include. Speed this dang game up!

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If you can check yoru collection for popped cards that were recently added, that should tell you.

Wait, does the new card feature work for some people? Every time I go to my collection, there's a new set of things marked "New" that are not, in fact, new. This has been the case since the start of HS for me. I guess I assumed it was like that for everyone.

Trying to get a free pack, I watched this morning. It was great to see the champ playing fast, great to shatter the myth that roping each turn is somehow smart.

Discovery is a problem with the game in general. It's time to retire that mechanic.

1st game on 0-0 a mage that discovers endlessly with the legendary mage spell. Ends up hitting my face with generated fireballs and pyroblasts, nothing you can do.

There were a lot of people against discover in the past, but somehow people forget how bad this mechanic is for the game, also for other modes. And Blizzard massively brought back discover again. In the past top players averaged on over 8 wins, right now its barely 6 wins, that tells you everything.

Arena is an absolute garbage mode right now, i was never really a fan of it, but right now its worse than ever. And i feel mandatory to do it because i dont want to waste my free tickets you get in the reward track.

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It is gross, played a mage that Rewound and played Counterspell and Objection 6-7 times each.  Broken as hell.

 The restriction of 2 of each card per deck used to mean something. You could strategize by keeping track of what your opponent had played so far. Now they just discover 10-15 cards (or more) per game and there’s no way to know. It ruins the strategy aspect of the game.

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Discover is only a problem when 1-2 classes can abuse it, and the rest can't.

Priest and Mage have very good discover mechanics right now - the game would be more interesting if other classes could adapt mid-game with more discover tools as well.

 Death knight?

The frustrating thing about discover is that it removes the ability to card-count and use skill to play around the opponent. You can play the game with the knowledge blood DK has 2 corpse explosions in their deck, but you can't play around the 3rd explosion or the 4th blood boil. Once both explosions are used you should be able to recognize that and develop the board more aggressively, but now you just clench your cheeks every time and hope you don't get blown out of the game. Blizzard knows this issue just from the fact 3-rune cards were too obnoxious, but there are plenty of stupid 2-rune cards like explosion, blood boil, sindragosa, patchwerk, the scourge etc.

It is gross, played a mage that Rewound and played Counterspell and Objection 6-7 times each.  Broken as hell.

And don't tell me I need more early game pressure,  I had plenty.   He had 30 OTK turn 7 with ZERO board and I had big taunts up....  SMH

This might be slightly off topic but, speaking of Power Creep:

In 2017, (not that long ago) you’d need to have your opponent draw three candles to get a 20/20 minion (The Darkness). I was thinking about that and how much Power Inflation has gone absolutely off the wall mad shit since then. I don’t recall if the card was used at all back then but still. Astalor as a 8/8 minion 14 damage battle cry which can be cheated is light years more powerful. 

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the "nerf" to discover would be a hard buff for DK, as their spells are too efficient. currently, the BDK has like 65 health per game on average. with your change to follow deck building rules, it would be over 100 health, as the discover pool would shrink immensely, in turn making the discover way too consistent.

 I would like to know who thought 2-mana, gain 10 health, and draw a card was a good idea. Even if it was restore 10 health instead of gain 10 health permanently, it would still be better than many other healing spells… especially with the card draw. And this is just one of the many broken cards in DK. 

Since the introduction of discover, I thought, why the hack is it possible to discover legendaries.

I mean after all there is a reason why the card is legendary and cant be twice in a Deck.

In that regard discover messes with a fundamental rule of the game and that just shouldnt be possible. If a card is meant to be played once, it should be once!

Tl/dr: at least remove legendaries from the discover pool

Totally agree with OP. Every time I look at the card tracker and see an opponent has 1/3 of the cards played not even starting in their deck (aside from Thief Rogue and Priest, obv), or when I lose a win condition or a game outright due to something that was never in my opponents deck, that gets pretty irritating. "Play around it" means very little and depletes any hint of "skill" in a game where an opponent can just will a win condition into existence. It even feels filthy when I end up doing it myself.