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Those are the exact opposite of what I want.  I want Sorry back.

Now, I would like the flavor of yours if the hero characters did them on their own randomly.  But knowing there's some smarmy player on the other side of those makes me want to come through the internet and slap their face.

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One and only time I hit legend was to prove to myself that I could do it.  

It's not a fun grind.  

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That's odd.  In my opinion, after the recent nerfs, this is the best that Hearthstone has felt in a long time.  I can't speak to actual numbers/balance, but even the most aggressive decks don't feel THAT oppressive, and there are many different viable archetypes and decks.  In previous metas, it's felt more and more like Tier 1 and 2 decks are so much stronger than anything else that there really wasn't any reason to experiment.  Currently though, anything that isn't Tier 1 and 2 feels.....not really that far behind, and at worst is going to give a Tier 1 or 2 deck a run for its money.  

I've been playing since gvg and this is the best that Hearthstone has felt in a long time. 

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Don't waste your time if you're counting on more cards in April to solve the problem.  New cards will never solve the problem.

It's even more wrong-headed to blame players.

Humans have acted according to their incentives since the beginning of time.  Right now the only way to play constructed and feel like you're making progress is ladder.  Ladder incentivizes winning -- and not only winning, but the lack of losing (stars) -- and that requires the very best decks your collection and research skills can create being played at all times.

Current incentives create stale constructed play by definition.  Creativity in the design of game modes and their incentives is the only way to solve it.

I bolded the part where you are making an assumption. Not every player defines the fun that they derive from the game, as well as the progress they feel they are making in the game, as winning on ladder with a winrate of 50-65%.

I know of plenty of players who feel that they are progressing at the game by making different more unique decks and pulling off wins with them (note, not 50-65% try hard win rates) with those different decks. It is sometimes players like me that can't help but SMH at players who can't derive enjoyment from the game unless they are always winning, and that is because seeking such a path in the game pigeonholes you into playing a very restrictive playstyle in terms of what you 'can' and 'can't' play.

 

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I predict that the community will complain about the way that T5 implements in-game tournaments and we will see threads popping up everywhere about how the players think it should have been designed. I'm calling it now.

Since when in the fuck is Dungeon Run so fucking impossible?  Construct  good decks only to get run over by absolute broken stupid shit.  Sometimes I can't get past the 4th frickin' guy.  No rewards.  10 hours of grinding for a set of goddamn pixels?

Whoever that guy is who headed up the Dungeon Run team ...  man, all that amazing work he did -- one of the best ideas and executions they've had.  And whoever balanced it and decided on no rewards just completely ruined all the blood sweat and tears the team put into it.  I would be beyond pissed off.

SO much potential to this game, and somehow every single good thing they have going they just ruin with one absolute wrong decision.  Get out of your own way!

Ok I feel better now.

I never wander into Fan Creations but I'm blown away, such cool stuff!

Fair points but I didn't latch on to that idea so strongly by taking into account the larger problem of Cubelock.  There are pros and cons to lots of nerf ideas, but this one stood out to me because it seems to be a distinct flaw, or "miss" on the mechanics.  They failed to bind the charge ability with the penalty and bundle them both in the Battlecry.  Yeah, they probably wanted it that way in the beginning and knew there would be ways to cheat it out that would make it very powerful.  But years -- and charge-focused nerfs -- later, it's a problem.

I don't know, I guess I've just never seen a nerf this elegant -- something so logical and faithful to core mechanics it almost feels like a bug-fix instead of a nerf.

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But the problem is NOT Dark Pact. It's simply Doomguard. This card should have been nerfed LONG time ago. It would not take much: simply change it to Battlecry: Discard two random cards, gain Charge.

It should only have charge when you discarded 2 cards.

 thats by far the best nerf for the card I've ever read 

 

Don't waste your time if you're counting on more cards in April to solve the problem.  New cards will never solve the problem.

It's even more wrong-headed to blame players.

Humans have acted according to their incentives since the beginning of time.  Right now the only way to play constructed and feel like you're making progress is ladder.  Ladder incentivizes winning -- and not only winning, but the lack of losing (stars) -- and that requires the very best decks your collection and research skills can create being played at all times.

Current incentives create stale constructed play by definition.  Creativity in the design of game modes and their incentives is the only way to solve it.

What's hard about tournament mode for them is that it breaks the very simple concept of queuing into a game.  Now you have a specific opponent at a specific time, or window of time.  What if the two opponents can't play at the same time?  You can just forfeit the one that didn't show up in time.  But now you're asking players to hang around for hours on end to do a tournament and not miss games.  That could work, but now think about the percent of players that will do it.  I wouldn't be able to more than once a month or so.  Is the effort to code it worth that volume?

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the additional cards seem to have "diluted" the card pool, and also seem to have completely messed up synergy in building a deck. 

It's about expectations.  The effect you describe above was super predictable.  I expected it, so it didn't disappoint so much.  I think in general we all were feeling a little over-hyped about wild arena.  It's arena with wild cards, that's it.  Curvestone was inevitable.  I'm better at it than standard, probably because I don't play enough to be good with more nuanced decks, I can admit it.

Even next week's Brawliseum is bound to disappoint.  It's just broken wild decks you can play in ranked now.  Playing in arena format for prizes is a nice novelty, but it's not any more exciting than that.

 Yeah, I'm not looking forward to the Brawliseum at all.  I'm on the fence about even playing it - do I suffer through three humiliating losses just to take the chance of winning a game or two (which is probably going to be my ceiling), or do I just retire the initial deck, take my prize, but breathe easy at not having to get stomped three games in a row?  If I played, it'd probably be a Reno deck...I hate aggro and combo decks, so I won't play as them.

 

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O don't know, personally I like doomsayer 

 

 problem is if blizz hofs the classic cards that are viewed as OP then there will be new OP cards and they will get hofd and then you have an eternal cycle until there are only shitty cards left from the classic set blizzard shouldnt hof too much anymore

the additional cards seem to have "diluted" the card pool, and also seem to have completely messed up synergy in building a deck. 

It's about expectations.  The effect you describe above was super predictable.  I expected it, so it didn't disappoint so much.  I think in general we all were feeling a little over-hyped about wild arena.  It's arena with wild cards, that's it.  Curvestone was inevitable.  I'm better at it than standard, probably because I don't play enough to be good with more nuanced decks, I can admit it.

Even next week's Brawliseum is bound to disappoint.  It's just broken wild decks you can play in ranked now.  Playing in arena format for prizes is a nice novelty, but it's not any more exciting than that.

I'd love a Brawl where it's all one-ofs and raise the deck size to 40/50/60.  A lot like MTG commander.  It would probably end up as a random curve-fest, but maybe an interesting meta would emerge.