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Golakka Crawler is pretty powerful and can actually counter their early game decently well. Blizzard actually made a playable card to counter a powerful archetype. Fills the two-drop slot in a lot of decks with shit early game, such as Priest or Shaman. Good synergies in Hunter and Druid. You can even play it in your Pirate Warrior to beat other Pirate Warriors. In short, much more tools for countering an aggro meta that did not exist pre-Un'Goro.
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I don't know how Freeze Mage, a deck that takes 10+ turns to kill you and needs the most draw of any deck in the entire game, is more cancerous than an Aggro deck that kills you on turn 4. Quest Rogue is a high roll deck. Sure, if you're pretty bad at sequencing and don't bounce your target minion, then you'll probably fail with the deck. I've never really lost to Freeze Mage in 3/4 turns. It's much, much worse when the Rogue opens double Shadowstep double Swashburgler on turn 2. The game is over at that point.
Freeze Mage is one of the last decks in this game that doesn't play on curve and is actually difficult to play. It has visible counterplay and is weak against most decks with cheap healing effects. Even Priest can beat it if you manage your resources efficiently, though the matchup is quite difficult.
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Alright, if this is "Zoo", then why do you have a card that cost 10 mana in your deck? Feels counterproductive to your plan.
The other issue that I have with this deck is that Mage as a class, is quite bad at being minion centric. The elemental tempo mages all have much higher curves than this one and tend to be better against midrange. Once you deplete your hand you don't have the staying power that Warlock does.
Take the deck to mid ladder ranks, somewhere around 12-9, and then you might actually have something. I feel that if you do, you'll see how much worse you perform against Midrange Hunter, Quest Rogue, Aggro Druid, etc. Even Midrange Paladin has more board presence than this deck can muster. Cool concept, but Mage just doesn't quite have the cards to support the type of deck you want to play. If you want a more consistent board based aggro deck that goes wide and makes little dudes bigger, try token Druid.
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I did my rank 10-5 climb using Aggro Token Druid. Deck makes very few trades; almost a pure SMOrc plan. I don't think enough people have spent time refining a powerful list. Once people get tired of Warrior and Rogue, the deck will get more attention. Hoping a bit slower build emerges that uses the new egg card.
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Don't see why Lyra the Sunshard isn't in your list. Mid/Late game resource generation is quite powerful. Also, is Fel Orc Soulfiend any better than Injured Blademaster? Seems like the downside to Fel Orc is that is just dies too often, while Blademaster can create some more optimal trades by hitting the 4 attack damage mark, something that a lot of Priest minions have always struggled to create on board.
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Don't get me wrong. In my first months of playing the game, I was overjoyed to make it to rank 15 with N'Zoth Priest, a deck deemed to be tier 4 at the time and possibly one of the worst decks in the entire game. But I was clearly not building the deck correctly, and it could have been constructed much better and given me that same satisfying experience, yet had a much better winrate overall.
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Many different things to take into consideration when looking at thief RNG.
1. Shaman has some of the best cards in the entire game. You've filled your deck with those cards. Chances are pretty heavily in their favor to obtain something that is both flexible and powerful.
2. Tunnel visioning on results. The fact that you made this post at all is a reflection of your negative mindset atm. When you've lost too many games to RNG in a row, you overreact to the results of those few games and tilt as a result. Take some time to actually evaluate your plays and maybe even change up your mulligan strategies to counter specific matchups.
3. Play a different deck. For the first time in the past year, Shaman does not sit upon the meta king throne. Meaning, there are other better decks that exist for you to play. Hunter and Druid for example. Both have ridiculously low curves, and run quite heavily on cards that work better in conjunction with one another, instead of having powerful synergistic effects. Make this into your advantage.
At the end of the day, thief RNG will never go away. It will almost always seem to favor the player stealing the card(s). But if you can't stand it, go play a different game.
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Deckbuilding is one of the four tenants of the game that I believe someone must excel at to become a top tier player. While the advent of netdecking has allowed people to reach high ranks and succeed far beyond their original potential, those who have innovated in certain techs at key points in the month in order to counter a popular metagame have gone even further than that. An example of this would be Fibonacci's Control Warrior build when Aggro Shaman dominated the MSoG metagame.
Casual deckbuilding operates under those same guidelines. The casual playerbase is much larger than the competitive Hearthstone scene. So it would be no surprise that those who don't yearn to push to legend every month play a deck that they enjoy. Many people would deem a deck "bad" if it isn't tier 1 or 2. However, my stance on that mindset is completely different. I am of the belief that decks built for fun can also be good, if they have also taken the current metagame into consideration. So many deckbuilding posts on this site ask for help on their deck, but they've dismissed consistency and power level for cards that they've deemed as "fun". Building an entire deck with 25 different cards just because this one niche two-drop works in conjunction with three other one-of copies in your deck is not good deckbuilding. Building a deck based around sub-optimal strategies can be fun, absolutely. But your fun deck does not have to be bad, at least from a deckbuilding perspective.
Does anyone else feel this way? I'm sure that some people believe that any deck that isn't tier 1 is just absolute trash and should never be queued. But I believe that most individuals can climb with the deck that they've made themselves, so long as they've taken vital concepts of the current metagame into consideration.
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The point we're trying to make is this: you can make a fun deck that is also viable. Why would you ever turn down an opportunity for a deck to be better, possibly be equally as fun, and also win more games because the deck is built better? Fun decks do not necessarily have to be bad, yet you seem to be forcing that issue here. There are many more viable Priest builds that have a similar theme, yet they're actually built with counterplay in mind, teched specifically to win certain unfavored match-ups. At the end of the day, you should propagate something that is fun, but is built in a manner that is correct.
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With regards to OP, the reason you don't see Priest is because the class isn't very straightforward to play. Because your minions are so defensively statlined, being able to squeeze every single point of damage takes a bit more thought than just playing minions on curve, unlike the Dragon Priest variants of meta past.
With the exception of Rogue, Mage, and Quest Warrior, Priest actually has quite even matchups across the board if the matchup is played right. The prevalence of 1-health minions in Hunter and in other aggressive decks have allowed Northshire Cleric to rise out of obscurity into a pseudo-threat. While you will experience games where aggro Druid overwhelms you on board, or you get nut-drawn by Pirate Warrior, but those will happen with almost every other class.
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