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    posted a message on [F2P][GUIDE] Eleburn Mage

    If you play Antonidas, you also want to play a very cheap spells. If you run those you can consider even Vex Crow, which makes whole elementals package irrelevant. If you really want to play Antonidas in Burn Mage i would look for a different decklist, this one would take half of it reconstructed.

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    posted a message on Shudderwock no dust back?

     

    Quote from Dahkss >>

    Blizzard is a company that wants your money. It's not your family or friend. Please stop defending their shitty behavior at all costs.

    Exactly, and that's why it is against their interest to give you free stuff, yet they do it anyway. I do not get people who are always whining about blizzard being assholes. If you don't like the game or the company, then why are you playing Hearthstone? It's not like anyone force you to.
    I just honestly think their behaviour is not "shitty" at all.
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    posted a message on Shudderwock no dust back?

     

    Quote from Morphling >>

    Blizzard is the one greedy here. They could easily give ppl dust back to remain consistent but why do that when you can be a *** to your customers. Oh well doesn't really matter. People are finally giving up on this disaster of a game anyway. 

    Blizzard is more and more open to give a free/extra stuff to players, so your point is pretty unfair. Moreover dust refund would be on place if it was a nerf. It is not. This is literally a glitch fix, to not let people abuse long casting session. Your wincondition should never be opponent forced to quit a game, that is just not right.
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    posted a message on Thoughts on my deck

    I think Dirty Rat will help you way more than Clockwork Gnome and I don't think Solemn Vigil is necessary, seems like too many draws which might make you do some awkward decisions to play or not to play Call to Arms and risking milling yourself with your card draw minions, because your hand seems to be often pretty big. Other than that I think both Thaurissan and Coach are great addition.

    Wonder how it works against giants shenanigans?

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    posted a message on [F2P][GUIDE] Eleburn Mage

     Guide is up, please let me know if you would like to see any additions to it.

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    posted a message on [F2P][GUIDE] Eleburn Mage

    Due to way better board presence unlike common tempo mage builds it is doing fine against Paladins, it is still slightly favorable for Paly, however it is not 40/60 ratio like with usual build.

    Matchup against Warlock is basically same as it is with meta burn mage. You spam board while it is relevant, before Voidlord hits the ground and then you are just sending burn into the face trying to burn your opponent before they can play Guldan.

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    posted a message on Getting to Know Hearthstone’s Alternate Heroes: Lunara

    I actually enjoy playing WoW mailny because of reason i can meet Hearthstone "cards" there (it was really funny moment when I came to Booty Bay for a first time and heard Patches' intro in the background music, it only missed someone yelling "I'm in charge now!"), so yeah I would be more happy with "more" original character.

    However it would be really a big challange to make me stop using Malfurion who is arguably the most powerful creature of all original and alternate heroes in HS. I used Lunara for couple of days, but I am already back to elfish archdruid.

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    posted a message on [F2P][GUIDE] Eleburn Mage

    I am currently working on it. Don't worry I always keep my promises!

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    posted a message on [F2P][GUIDE] Eleburn Mage

    Guys, I'm glad that the deck took a little spotlights so I'm going to start work on a guide tommorow, stay tuned!

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    posted a message on [F2P][GUIDE] Eleburn Mage

    I think the best thing to drop for Aluneth is a Lifedrinker.

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    posted a message on [F2P][GUIDE] Eleburn Mage

    I think the best thing to drop for Aluneth is a Lifedrinker. Replacement for Primordial Glyph, I would say drop Steam Surger.

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    posted a message on Spiteful Summoner (yeah, this one, again)

     

    Quote from Lightspoon >>

    There had always been deck that can be played by a bot to Legend (think of old Pirate Warrior, just to say one) and Spiteful archetype is one of them: play on curve, hit face, hope in highroll.

     Actually I think that last years' Pirate Warrior was more about decisions than Spiteful decks are now. Your gameplan was to burn your opponent so you had to decide if you want to go all-in with weapon, contest board, make value trades etc. Those are usual decisions with aggresive decks. Spitefuls' plan is to highroll and it almost doesn't matter whether you go face, trade or whatever.
     
    Quote from Khaostheory >>

     

    Quote from Kwakdizzle >>

     

    Quote from Khaostheory >>

    I think you should consider yourself lucky. He had a 33% chance of a 2 drop. That's more than most of us get! We all have to live with a 100% chance of a 10 drop.

     
     He isn't salty for losing, and he probably would be happy that his opponent put in such a bad card replacement for Keleseth. His point is that the very fact that someone so bad at deckbuilding that he would replace a Keleseth with Wild Growth IN A SPITEFUL DECK could be at legend. It's indicative of the ease of climbing with certain decks, which means skill is not rewarded as much as netdecking, big collections, and luck.
    Sorry but I take issue with the level of skill required in a card game. It's primarily a luck based game. It requires a high time investment to get legend and a deck that wins slightly more than half your games. If you get better draw than your opponent you'll beat anyone in the world. That's the inherent aspect of any card game. You cannot "skill" a card out of your deck.
    In fact if this game was more predictable and skill based no one would play it because it would be boring both to play and watch.
    The deck isn't even that bad with a wild regrowth in it. There's a fairly high chance you'll draw it before playing spiteful summoner and if get it in the opening hand even better.
     You can indeed "skill" a card out of your deck. You know exactly how many cards you have left in your deck and how many of them you want to draw. So you can count the odds whether it is worth for you to rely on it or not.
     
    Quote from Vexaire >>

    I think paladin is a bigger problem than spiteful decks right now.

     Paladin is super powerful, that's a different story. I really think it would use a nerfs in some way. But there are lot of decisions to make in those decks even if it doesn't look like it. Starting with mulligan. Besides CtA you need a very different cards in your starting hand for almost every matchup. And sometimes you don't even want CtA if you don't have cards in opening that can contest the board early on against for example Burn Mage. My point wasn't to address a deck that is broken, but rather something that has almost as high skill floor as skill ceiling.
     
    Quote from Kovachut >>

    Amm Luck. This isn't something, which only applies to Spiteful.

     You can' justify it as "luck" if it comes to someone who ranked 12 - Legend without game knowledge. The issue is somewhere else. In 400+ games which are usualy required for climbing this high is luck basically non existent. It is about powerlevel of what you are playing, knowledge of current meta and your piloting. Climbing with Spiteful decks seems like to be only about powerlevel of the deck nothing else.
     
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    posted a message on Spiteful Summoner (yeah, this one, again)

     

    Quote from alexkayownsabus >>

    Your complaint doesn't really make much sense to me. Did he climb to legend using Spiteful Summoner? Sounds like he built the deck recently, Maybe he made a dumb mistake building the deck (I know I have before making Keleseth or Spell Hunter decks) but there isn't anything in your post that indicates he climbed to legend using the deck or even climbed anywhere at all besides screwing around in a match or two. How does this scenario support your hyperbolic claim that the Spiteful Summoner archetype is "the most antiskill deck that has ever been in Hearthstone"?

    If you are Spiteful Druid player please don't take it personaly. I fully understand it, it is just a powerful deck in this meta and everybody wants to win. After all, if you check HCT Taipei Decklist, many, if not most of players has Spiteful Druid in lineup. 
    All I wanted to say is that this card allows players with little game knowledge to climb ranks which otherwise would be out of range for them. Yes, he said, he climbed Legend with it, he built it just when rotation kicked in and since he had seen a deck on hsreply where he missed only one card he decided to build it and managed to climbed 12-Legend with it. In my opinion it is just unfair against those who plays/build other deck archetypes because just everything and I mean everything is harder to build or pilot. If you have only one deck that is easier to pilot bring it in and we can discuss it.
    I've been in Hearthstone since Beta and in my opinion curvedecks are just the easiest decks to pilot. Spiteful Summoner whatever deck is just a king of all curvedecks.
    Deck without spells just with random minions which do "spell stuffs" like AoE, theft, mana cheat, freeze etc. and pray for highroll seems really unhealthy to me from a design perspective, don't you think so?
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    posted a message on Spiteful Summoner (yeah, this one, again)

     

    Quote from br0zi >>

    no meta decks take skill right now if you have not noticed.

    I don't agree with you. Even most hated Cubelocks needs high amount of skill and game knowledge to play it properly. Not speaking about other control decks. And yeah If you think aggro deck don't require thinking you are wrong. You have way less possible plays to think about than with control decks, that's true, but even small good decisions make those winrate percents better.
    Grinding ladder or competetive HS in nutshell is not about that single game where you highroll or not. It's about hundreds/thousands of games which tear good players apart of those casual.
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    posted a message on Spiteful Summoner (yeah, this one, again)

    So untill yesterday I was just fine with all these spiteful nonsense out there as it is not something you can't beat (obviously if they don't go Keleseth t2, Spiteful t6 and t7). Untill today...

    I've had this game in middle Legend, not a big deal I was far from more than 1 HCT point so I was just chilling with homebrew decks. I was playing against Spiteful Druid. T6 Spiteful Summoner into Deathwing, I tried to place taunts in its way and hopefully topdeck my Hadronox. However, he played Wild Growth on whatever turn 11 or 12 and I was like WTF. I didn't draw my win condition so I lost, not a big deal, it happens in Hearthstone. But I was curious so I added him into friendlist to ask him for a purpose of that Wild Growth.

    Well and now the fun part. He told me that he doesn't have Keleseth so he replaced it with Wild Growth ... I mean really?

    How many of you guys who never hit a Legend  would never do such a stupid thing. I don't think any 2-drop can match powerlevel of Keleseth, but making your Spiteful which is basically your wincondition summoning Doomsayer?

    I don't think Hearthstone is the most skillfull card game out there, and if you don't agree you should try mother of all, MtG. But, I always thought being good in hearthstone needs you to think. You can win one game even against a pro player but  if you compare winrate after 1000 games you will be far behind. And now there is a spiteful summoner which, i hate this word, is an autopilot deck. If you are a good programmer and you will code a software which will play the highest possible card each turn, the result will be pretty much the same.

    We need to address this issue to Blizzard somehow, not because spiteful decks are incredibly OP, they are not, winrate is somewhere on tier 1/2 border, but it is just the most antiskill deck that has ever been in Hearthstone.

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