I tried playing wild a while back. Res priest. I remember constant bming from my opponent. Every turn, 'wow' 'wellplayed'.
It might be nicer but there is bm everywhere.
There's BM everywhere, but I think the feeling is general. There's less in Wild.
As RaduGL said, when you face a deck you know perfectly and it has all the answers to your play... It's sometimes difficult to accept :) RNG is both a strong point of HS, and as well its weakness. There are still very polarized match-ups that you know you have 10% of winning, so somehow better conceding that losing your time. But overall, RNG steals a lot of games. A 50/50 match-up can be driven by RNG...
Anyway, thanks for the Secret Mage answer Geoff. I really did not mean it's unbeatable. I just don't want to build to counter it - I'd prefer not seeing it at all. I just don't like playing against this deck (neither playing it). To illustrate, here's a deck I'm playing to grind the ladder: https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1351295-ragnaros-ftw - definitely inefficient :)
The logic makes sense but it's mostly overthinking the situation. There are wild players bitching about the top decks just like standard players. What I've seen more in wild than in standard is people with full golden decks and 1000 wins demon hunters but that's about it
I confirm. I can't stand Secret Mage. The deck is on another level than beast hunter. It's just too strong. It's not about killing you straight away, it's preventing you from playing while killing you peacefully. Anyway, I won't add a player to insult him because he's playing Secret Mage. Best chance for him is me conceding to help him go up faster. The deck is not very interesting to play against. It's random secrets being played, always the same, unless you find a creative player that wants to mess around (1 in 20?).
Last month, going up to diamond towards the end of the months was just awesome. I encountered a very large variety of decks, from memes to strong control decks. But maybe only one Secret Mage over 40+ games. Then at Diamond 10... 40% of decks were Secret Mage. I stopped playing.
Now, I went up to gold a few days ago and i'm not playing 50% of games against Secret Mage. I don't want to play a counter - not interested. So i'll wait for these players who just want to go up to go up Diamond 5 and then I'll be able to grind for my rewards peacefully towards the end of the months.
To come back to OPs point, I playing both Wild and Standard, and Wild seems to be a better place indeed. The last time I got added to be insulted was at least 6 months ago. Standard globally leaves less place to play fun decks, so people are just playing Standard to grind the ladder, so they are playing the top 5 decks, in 90+% of cases... It's less fun, more difficult to win so people are more aggressive - that's what I interpret from my observations. Ranked Wild after half of the month look a lot to me like Casual Standard actually...
Thanks for the feedback. It clearly is focused on winning with Ragnaros, but even without it, the archivists are a real plague when you manage to play shadow of death on them. They are multiplying a my end of turn. Same for the Fal'dorei... I won multiple game without Ragnaros. It's definitely a fun deck and I did not manage to get to rank 15 (I don't play enough...). But surprisingly, it's still quite playable after the Nerf. The apothecary is still very playable thanks to the prep and coins... Anyway, thanks for considering my decklist 😬
This deck beats actual nothing in the current meta.... if you can even survive to T7 you will typically die shortly after. Relying on Stargazer as your only draw mechanic is just awful.
I don't understand your comment. You have the tar creeper, Zephrys, the dumb bird... The curve is actually ok. I think you've been traumatised by aggro decks and can't appreciate the current meta that allows you to really play this kind of decks and be efficient with them.
Youw pass legend. Ok. But is it everyone's goal? I don't think so. I actually tried the deck and it's quite good. At least, that's the feeling with about 10 games around rank 15.
Thanks Juzam. I agree it can win. I'm on a 6win streak now. It's not too complicated to play but Mulligan is important. After that, it can get crazy very fast, as many other Wild decks by the way!
But that's the beauty of it, trying to play it in a competitive manner... Provided you can consider playing competitively around rank 15... Lol (I'm 8W/7L rank 17 😬)
Tank 20 to 19... 4W/5L... It's definitely fun but I don't see how I can do better than this 😅 I'll try to get to rank 15 thought. Because it's so fun when it works ^^
Why do you need removal when you're having the board and you're always ahead? If you're not ahead, then you can concede :D
I think it's the point the decklist is trying to make... I played probably around 100 games with it... It's a heads and tails deck... As fun as it is expansive :D
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Very fun but also unfortunately very slow... So quite weak :'( Thanks for the list anyway.
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Nice list. Lots of possibilities... Game will not be similar to each other with this ^^
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Thanks!
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Never thought about it, thanks! Could replace Thaurissan or Vargoth... I'll try it.
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There's BM everywhere, but I think the feeling is general. There's less in Wild.
As RaduGL said, when you face a deck you know perfectly and it has all the answers to your play... It's sometimes difficult to accept :) RNG is both a strong point of HS, and as well its weakness. There are still very polarized match-ups that you know you have 10% of winning, so somehow better conceding that losing your time. But overall, RNG steals a lot of games. A 50/50 match-up can be driven by RNG...
Anyway, thanks for the Secret Mage answer Geoff. I really did not mean it's unbeatable. I just don't want to build to counter it - I'd prefer not seeing it at all. I just don't like playing against this deck (neither playing it). To illustrate, here's a deck I'm playing to grind the ladder: https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1351295-ragnaros-ftw - definitely inefficient :)
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I confirm. I can't stand Secret Mage. The deck is on another level than beast hunter. It's just too strong. It's not about killing you straight away, it's preventing you from playing while killing you peacefully. Anyway, I won't add a player to insult him because he's playing Secret Mage. Best chance for him is me conceding to help him go up faster. The deck is not very interesting to play against. It's random secrets being played, always the same, unless you find a creative player that wants to mess around (1 in 20?).
Last month, going up to diamond towards the end of the months was just awesome. I encountered a very large variety of decks, from memes to strong control decks. But maybe only one Secret Mage over 40+ games. Then at Diamond 10... 40% of decks were Secret Mage. I stopped playing.
Now, I went up to gold a few days ago and i'm not playing 50% of games against Secret Mage. I don't want to play a counter - not interested. So i'll wait for these players who just want to go up to go up Diamond 5 and then I'll be able to grind for my rewards peacefully towards the end of the months.
To come back to OPs point, I playing both Wild and Standard, and Wild seems to be a better place indeed. The last time I got added to be insulted was at least 6 months ago. Standard globally leaves less place to play fun decks, so people are just playing Standard to grind the ladder, so they are playing the top 5 decks, in 90+% of cases... It's less fun, more difficult to win so people are more aggressive - that's what I interpret from my observations. Ranked Wild after half of the month look a lot to me like Casual Standard actually...
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My pleasure.
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Interesting deck... I would play it but I've seen too many dragons thanks to Ysera... Anyway, nice Hakkar/Cleric combo!
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Thanks for the feedback. It clearly is focused on winning with Ragnaros, but even without it, the archivists are a real plague when you manage to play shadow of death on them. They are multiplying a my end of turn. Same for the Fal'dorei... I won multiple game without Ragnaros. It's definitely a fun deck and I did not manage to get to rank 15 (I don't play enough...). But surprisingly, it's still quite playable after the Nerf. The apothecary is still very playable thanks to the prep and coins... Anyway, thanks for considering my decklist 😬
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I don't understand your comment. You have the tar creeper, Zephrys, the dumb bird... The curve is actually ok. I think you've been traumatised by aggro decks and can't appreciate the current meta that allows you to really play this kind of decks and be efficient with them.
Youw pass legend. Ok. But is it everyone's goal? I don't think so. I actually tried the deck and it's quite good. At least, that's the feeling with about 10 games around rank 15.
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Thanks Juzam. I agree it can win. I'm on a 6win streak now. It's not too complicated to play but Mulligan is important. After that, it can get crazy very fast, as many other Wild decks by the way!
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But that's the beauty of it, trying to play it in a competitive manner... Provided you can consider playing competitively around rank 15... Lol (I'm 8W/7L rank 17 😬)
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Tank 20 to 19... 4W/5L... It's definitely fun but I don't see how I can do better than this 😅 I'll try to get to rank 15 thought. Because it's so fun when it works ^^
Thanks for the list !
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First try, summon Immortal Prelate with 1-cost summoning Lackey. Couldn't hope for worse.
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Why do you need removal when you're having the board and you're always ahead? If you're not ahead, then you can concede :D
I think it's the point the decklist is trying to make... I played probably around 100 games with it... It's a heads and tails deck... As fun as it is expansive :D