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Wow... not happy about those challanges. Who are all the people that voted for 2?!

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What about giving CThun poisonous? That would be a powerful combo with his battlecry meaning almost all his damage would go face. Or untargettable so he's tough to remove.

Can't directly give him Poisonous since that came out in Un'Goro. Can give him "Destroy any minion damaged by this" or "can't be targeted by spells and Hero Powers" but both would be pretty extreme. Part of his balance is splitting the damage among a bunch of enemies. If he 1-shots all enemy minions a big C'Thun ends the game immediately. 

I like some of Viridian's ideas (That Mutate idea is neat but uses up a lot of words) and will hopefully inspire everyone. I'm probably going with cost reduction.

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Clarification on Challenge 2. Do cards that *interact* with C'Thun but not buff him count? Like Ancient Shieldbearer, etc.

Upon further examining, all class C'Thun cards interact with C'Thun in one of two ways: GIving him stats, or doing something when he is at 10 Attack. There is only one card that buffs C'Thun without giving him stats. I'm not so sold on this challenge anymore. I think it would be better if this challenge instead forced us to do something when he is at 10 Attack.

It doesn't say you can't give it stats, it just says you can't give it +X/+X. You could give it +X/+Y, where X and Y aren't equal.

 Yeah...no. That is a perversion of the challenge's intention.

Maybe you should re-word it then, because it wasn't clear. You should say you can't give it +X/+Y, or just that you can't buff the attack or health.

 "One of your WOG cards must buff C'thun without giving it +X/+X, X ∈ "

That being said, there's nothing stopping you from giving C'thun +4 Attack or Health! Really, all Deathwing wants you to do is to buff C'thun in an unorthodox way.

There isn't really much point to buffing Health... and if you're going to buff Attack, you may as well buff both stats. If you want unorthodox, you should follow Usher of Souls or Twilight Acolyte's examples; You have to buff C'Thun without a Battlecry. Granted, that rules out Blade of C'Thun, what it's still better than the existing challenge. 

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Challange #1, #2, #3 and #6. I like chess-piece mechanic as something for only chess boss encounter, and I think everyone will do atleast 1 "forbidden" spell anyway so no much sense to vote for it :P

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Clarification on Challenge 2. Do cards that *interact* with C'Thun but not buff him count? Like Ancient Shieldbearer, etc.

Upon further examining, all class C'Thun cards interact with C'Thun in one of two ways: GIving him stats, or doing something when he is at 10 Attack. There is only one card that buffs C'Thun without giving him stats. I'm not so sold on this challenge anymore. I think it would be better if this challenge instead forced us to do something when he is at 10 Attack.

It doesn't say you can't give it stats, it just says you can't give it +X/+X. You could give it +X/+Y, where X and Y aren't equal.

 Yeah...no. That is a perversion of the challenge's intention.

Maybe you should re-word it then, because it wasn't clear. You should say you can't give it +X/+Y, or just that you can't buff the attack or health.

 And if it had said "you can't give it +X/+Y", you would have said "oh well I'll just give it +X/+X". I didn't write it, nor do I care for the challenge, but you're being needlessly anal to be combative.

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Clarification on Challenge 2. Do cards that *interact* with C'Thun but not buff him count? Like Ancient Shieldbearer, etc.

Upon further examining, all class C'Thun cards interact with C'Thun in one of two ways: GIving him stats, or doing something when he is at 10 Attack. There is only one card that buffs C'Thun without giving him stats. I'm not so sold on this challenge anymore. I think it would be better if this challenge instead forced us to do something when he is at 10 Attack.

It doesn't say you can't give it stats, it just says you can't give it +X/+X. You could give it +X/+Y, where X and Y aren't equal.

 Yeah...no. That is a perversion of the challenge's intention.

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Clarification on Challenge 2. Do cards that *interact* with C'Thun but not buff him count? Like Ancient Shieldbearer, etc.

Upon further examining, all class C'Thun cards interact with C'Thun in one of two ways: GIving him stats, or doing something when he is at 10 Attack. There is only one card that buffs C'Thun without giving him stats. I'm not so sold on this challenge anymore. I think it would be better if this challenge instead forced us to do something when he is at 10 Attack.

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Here's my idea. Based on Betrayal's wording "Force a...". Note that this says character instead of minion, so if your opponent has a weapon equipped, you can actually force them to use durability AND hit their own face. The art doesn't exactly look like a warrior card, but I think it'll do, as I found both the name and effect fitting for warriors.

 That would be worded differently and attacking oneselfe isn't possible in the game. Animation and all. It would simply be "Deal damage to a character equal to its Attack" ala Lightbomb.

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I see that Nurgling's a little bit confused. I believe we'll be somewhat lenient with this theme, as it's somewhat vague with the definition of "a phrase" means. I assume that it's less than a clause, and usually just a specific verb, adjective, adverb, prepositional phrase, or any word (often, it's just a word. Phrase seems a little misleading) or concept that's quite uncommon in the game of hearthstone. It'll be important for the submitter to point out where these words/phrases/concepts already occur, so we can determine their legality. Personally, I see why not "Double all Damage" isn't legal, other than the fact that it's combining two separate ideas. "doubling" and "damage". I'll get back to you if full capitalization (as with Hellfire, Whirlwind, and Circle of Healing) will count as separate from its non capitalized counterpart, although I don't believe it should.

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That doesn't help at all. You can't give hints on how to follow the rules. You have to define the rules. This theme is a disaster for the mods just waiting to happen without some clear guidelines on what a 'phrase' is.

It does, actually. In fact, it helps almost all. This post has 99.99% of all the eligible phrases in it. Believe it or not, I actually thought this theme out a couple of weeks beforehand, and trawled through every single collectible card in this game to identify these phrases. Some slipped through (like 'both players'), but overall there are practically 0 other examples of unique phrases. Let's take Elize the Trailblazer. There are three words that don't appear on any other card; "sealed", "Un'Goro", and "pack". The rest of the card is pretty pedestrian— "Battlecry: Shuffle a _____ into your deck." Another instance is Poisoned Blade, which is up there for more subtle reasons. There are more than 3 cards with the word 'replace' on them, but there is only 1 card with the word 'replacing' on it. It's all up there in that post!

Also, as to your cards: there are 7 cards that have 'double' in them; Arcane Blast, Divine Spirit, Prophet Velen, Blessed Champion, Ghaz'rilla, Cursed Blade, and Scaled Nightmare. "All damage" is exempt from being unique because there are a ton of cards that use both 'all' and 'damage' in their text. You can still have 'All damage', but you can't use it with 'double', because there are more than three cards.

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Okay, someone has to actually define "phrase" instead of just giving examples. You guys are setting yourselves up with a gigantic gray area because "phrase" is so nebulously defined. Where's the dividing line between a phrase being two consecutive words and an entire sentence? 

 Well the hint here is that the list of examples is basically what I initially suggested as the limitations.
What words don't count as being rare?
• Attack, attacks, attacked, attacking, etc.
• Health, healing, healed, etc.
• Armor
• Damage, damaged, undamaged, etc.
• ALL keywords
• Summon
• Give
• Destroy
• Gain
• Copy
• Play
• Battlefield
• Put into
• Draw
• Minion
• Spell
• Weapon
• Equip
• Add
• Card
• Deck
• Any and all Tribes, named characters, and pre-existing cards
• Turn
• Game
• Opponent
• Enemy
• Friendly, character
• X-Cost
• Reduce
• Pretty much all words that are three characters or less

By removing all of these things from the card your looking at as your basis, and then identifying key phrases that stand out, you can get some idea of which cards qualify.
NOTE: Commanding Shout only qualifies because it has 'below' in it; 'reduced' is used in multiple other Cost-related cards. You CAN say 'reduced below' in your card, but if you don't have the word (because it will basically always be one or two words that are unique) it doesn't count.

All that being said, I had some ideas myself:

Thoughts?
The idea behind Skaldïr is that you can really pile on stats for your Kingsbane (it's an enchantment!), but it is also relevant if you have your 1/2 equipped, because you can then play this, hero power, and get a 2/4 weapon (Assassin's Blade anyone?)

Here are some ideas I had so far:

"Double all damage" appears only on Cursed Blade. "lowest attack" appears only on Hello! Hello! Hello!. "second copy" appears only on Witchcraft.

Okay, someone has to actually define "phrase" instead of just giving examples. You guys are setting yourselves up with a gigantic gray area because "phrase" is so nebulously defined. Where's the dividing line between a phrase being two consecutive words and an entire sentence? 

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I'm not really feeling any of the mechanics people came up with, but I Knew a Guy has just perfect flavor.

 I like the Deathrattle part with I Knew a Guy, but what's the flavor of the Lifesteal other than fulfilling the keyword threshold? 

I'm not really feeling any of the mechanics people came up with, but I Knew a Guy has just perfect flavor.