I'm not having a big problem with aggro, but the meta is changing fast, so many different decks. I'm 7-1 now, from rank 5 to 4. I only lost to a Quest Shaman. I will play more of it later.
The idea of this deck instead of the standard Shirvallah Combo is to use secrets as a "survival" mechanism, your opponent will spend a lot of time dealing with your secrets, at the same time you're drawing the combo pieces. Also you will draw 3-5 cards with Mysterious Challenger.
You've taken a lot of heat in this topic, so I just want to praise this deck. I've been so much fun with it. I am 7-1 at the moment and have beaten bomb warrior, token druid, zoo and all the other decks. It's just overall fun and my god Conjurer's calling is an insane card.
It should be notet that I am only rank 11 atm because I've been playing wild for the last couple of months.
This deck will grab more wins in lower ranks for sure, since most of new players don't play around AOE or don't trade with giants.
Thank you so much for this deck, I've been playing normal Khadgar mage at just 50% winrate after so many games, I've just gone 5-1 right now win-streaking with this deck.
Thank you, sorry for all the hate you're getting in the comments this deck is BOMB!
Nice to see that it's doing well for you, I had trouble with some new lists but I'm having a pretty good winrate today.
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This is the list that I'm current testing, I'm a bit more satisfied with it: - 1 Flamestrike - 1 Astromancer - 1 Blastwave (less token Druids now) - 1 Power of Creation (I don't feel I need that much value) - 2 Astral Rift + 2 Polymorph (it's good vs Lucentbark druid and mirror matches, also it's a needed answer to early Van Cleefs) + 2 Half-Time Scavenger (it's a card that I'm testing against aggro and combo decks, since mage is lacking healing, it's doing well I think) + 2 Arcane Intellect (After testing Astral Rift for some time I came to the conclusion that Arcane Intellect is just better overall)
What do you think about -1 Crowd Roaster +1 Alexstrasza
Alex is very slow don't you think? As a heal I don't think Alex will save you against aggro. You can use it for lethal if you have 2 giants in the board, but I can't remember a single time that I had 2 giants and lost the game. It's just win more.
I'm eating such mages for breakfast with control war. The only way they can win is t4 giant into conjuring if I didn't get shield slam or execute. In any other sceanario this is just free win for me.
Usually I beat any warior after their second brawl. There's not enough removal for warrior.
Warrior even doesn't need double brawl in this match. It is needed only for kadgar + power of creation. Against everything else omega devastators do the work.
You don't even need Khadgar to outvalue warrior. Double power of creation, double conjurer's calling, and you can discover 3 more of those spells. And then you have astromancers, double giants, double drakes, crowd roasters. It's just a matter of aplying the right pressure and not overextending. Warrior lacks card draw too.
What do you think about -1 Crowd Roaster +1 Alexstrasza
Alex is very slow don't you think? As a heal I don't think Alex will save you against aggro. You can use it for lethal if you have 2 giants in the board, but I can't remember a single time that I had 2 giants and lost the game. It's just win more.
I'm eating such mages for breakfast with control war. The only way they can win is t4 giant into conjuring if I didn't get shield slam or execute. In any other sceanario this is just free win for me.
Usually I beat any warior after their second brawl. There's not enough removal for warrior.
I am at 65% win rate using a somewhat similar deck, but I run a heavier dragon package including Malygos and Alex and galaxy to blow out control players. I agree some version of this deck is definitely tier 1.
What actually makes the deck crazy is drake's and giants early backed up with aoe to control the board
That's the point, I think the definitive Tier 1 mage will come up of something like this.
I'm trying -1 Astromancer (maybe 2 is too much) and -1 Blast Wave (less token druids and zoo today). +2 Polymorphy (I started queueing priests and more rogues today, it's the only answer against Van Cleef).
Imagine using "I know what I'm talking about" as proof of a deck being S tier.
We can debate and discuss card choices and anything you want. (Like I'm doing). But I know, it's easier to bash someone instead of presenting an argument.
funny thing is he's right, he's only quoting you with what you said in response to malygoddd's post. lol, if anything, looking through your responses to people you seem rather arrogant, when in reality this list is pretty much just like all the rest going around, but I guess you gotta use the clickbait titles and everything so it gets viewed right....not to mention providing zero stats/proof of your "statements". lol
Sorry if I sound arrogant, english isn't my first language. And sorry for the click bait title.
I provided answers to every card discurssion in this thread, I'm not just making an statement.
I will provide stats once I have them. I'm not playing much more than 5 games a day, I will not come here with a 15 games sampling size. The main reason I made this thread is for others that want to try the deck give me a feedback.
Imagine using "I know what I'm talking about" as proof of a deck being S tier.
We can debate and discuss card choices and anything you want. (Like I'm doing). But I know, it's easier to bash someone instead of presenting an argument.
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I think the map should cost 2 gold or at least let you discover minions from the tier you upgraded. Otherwise it's hard to payback.
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That's what I call a good nerf. Now instead of a 38/56 Amalgam we will have a 37/54 amalgam...
Amalgam should be at least tier 3.
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I'm back playing OTK paladin, now with Sathrovarr and it's really strong, here's the list:
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Double Banker into Double Holy Wrath = 10 mana = 50dmg
Or 1 Banker into Double Holy Wrath depending on the second card you draw it will do 25-30dmg.
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You need him to do more than 25dmg in one turn.
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I'm not having a big problem with aggro, but the meta is changing fast, so many different decks.
I'm 7-1 now, from rank 5 to 4. I only lost to a Quest Shaman. I will play more of it later.
It's very fun to play. People don't expect to be a Shirvalla deck.
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The idea of this deck instead of the standard Shirvallah Combo is to use secrets as a "survival" mechanism, your opponent will spend a lot of time dealing with your secrets, at the same time you're drawing the combo pieces. Also you will draw 3-5 cards with Mysterious Challenger.
Other good point is that you have many 1 mana spells, so you can get 1 mana Mysterious Challenger or Emperor Thaurissan with Prismatic Lens.
What to mulligan for?
Always keep Crystology, Secretkeeper and Mysterious Challenger. Prismatic Lens is an option also.
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This deck will grab more wins in lower ranks for sure, since most of new players don't play around AOE or don't trade with giants.
Nice to see that it's doing well for you, I had trouble with some new lists but I'm having a pretty good winrate today.
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This is the list that I'm current testing, I'm a bit more satisfied with it:
- 1 Flamestrike
- 1 Astromancer
- 1 Blastwave (less token Druids now)
- 1 Power of Creation (I don't feel I need that much value)
- 2 Astral Rift
+ 2 Polymorph (it's good vs Lucentbark druid and mirror matches, also it's a needed answer to early Van Cleefs)
+ 2 Half-Time Scavenger (it's a card that I'm testing against aggro and combo decks, since mage is lacking healing, it's doing well I think)
+ 2 Arcane Intellect (After testing Astral Rift for some time I came to the conclusion that Arcane Intellect is just better overall)
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You don't even need Khadgar to outvalue warrior. Double power of creation, double conjurer's calling, and you can discover 3 more of those spells. And then you have astromancers, double giants, double drakes, crowd roasters. It's just a matter of aplying the right pressure and not overextending. Warrior lacks card draw too.
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Alex is very slow don't you think? As a heal I don't think Alex will save you against aggro. You can use it for lethal if you have 2 giants in the board, but I can't remember a single time that I had 2 giants and lost the game. It's just win more.
Usually I beat any warior after their second brawl. There's not enough removal for warrior.
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That's the point, I think the definitive Tier 1 mage will come up of something like this.
I'm trying -1 Astromancer (maybe 2 is too much) and -1 Blast Wave (less token druids and zoo today). +2 Polymorphy (I started queueing priests and more rogues today, it's the only answer against Van Cleef).
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I completetly agree with you.
Arcane Intellect can be better like I said. But I think that costing 1 less is good enough to run it.
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Sorry if I sound arrogant, english isn't my first language.
And sorry for the click bait title.
I provided answers to every card discurssion in this thread, I'm not just making an statement.
I will provide stats once I have them. I'm not playing much more than 5 games a day, I will not come here with a 15 games sampling size. The main reason I made this thread is for others that want to try the deck give me a feedback.
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I don't watch Trump's streams for quite some time, I would apreciate if you provide a deck list.
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We can debate and discuss card choices and anything you want. (Like I'm doing).
But I know, it's easier to bash someone instead of presenting an argument.