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    posted a message on Reno Curator Paladin

    Yeah, Tirion is the I win button due to so many threat, your opponent usually spend their premium removal before tirion. This deck needs improvement though, the argent lance is very useful. I still have trouble fighting tempo mage with their ridiculous turn 4/5 spell spam, and i can't evn reno yet. not even aldor/kodo can save me.

    Any idea how to fight tempo mage? I am thinking the 3 mana 2/1 charge divine shield, or even possibly bluegill warrior just to trade with their 3/2

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    posted a message on Reno Curator Paladin

    Hello. Thank you for your response.
    Well, the deck is expensive, thats for sure, but it is fun indeed.

    regarding your replacement, I think Tirion is irreplacable, while the rest is easily replaceable. I would advise you to craft it if you like paladin (as he is in basic, so always in Standard, and is a very great card). Also, Tirion is the biggest reason why you should play Nzoth paladin.

    For Chillmaw, I think Ysera is a good choice, but Abomination is not, because it can destroy your nzoth board whereas you can discard dragon to prevent chillmaw effect from triggering.

    My recommendation :
    Tirion --> Ragnaros Firelord or emperor thaurisan
    Chillmaw -> Infested tauren
    Loghtlord -> ysera
    Cairne -> either Corrupted healbot or the 4 mana 1/1 deathrattle spawn 5/5.

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    posted a message on Curator is proven awesome
    Quote from DoubleSummon >>

    But with forbidden healing I don't see much of a point running reno in paladin .. at all.. also ivory knight is quite good just run *2 forbiddena dn *2 healing and you should get a lot of healing.. then you should be able to just play 2 of stamples like the doomsayer you arne't running for example.

     Because with forbidden healing, you spent a whole turn to heal and if they have a medium board, they will deal damage again, and drop another one, whereas with reno, you get full heal and can trade next turn. Tempo-wise it is very different
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    posted a message on Reno Curator Paladin

    Yeah, I also experiment with argent lance weapon, and it seems very good. Removing Ragnaros Firelord for it though, because it is not reliable

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    posted a message on Curator is proven awesome
    Quote from ambershee >>

    "Curator is a godsend".

    There are only six possible cards you can draw with Curator in that deck, so the likelihood of getting more than two is pretty slim:

    [card]Sir Finley Mrrgglton[/card], Ysera, Azure Drake, Corrupted Seer, Stampeding Kodo, Jeweled Scarab.

    Finley is dubious since he's a 1/3 and are you really going to want to swap your hero power?, Corrupted Seer is a complete waste of a card compared to Consecration because you only have one other murloc in your deck, whose board presence you don't care about - an awful turn 8 play unless you luck out and can combo with Equality. Jeweled Scarab is also a 1/1 in turn 8, so you better hope you get a good 3 mana card out of it (unlikely). Azure Drake is generally a good card, but less so in turn 8 when you only have one damage spell in your entire deck - the tempo loss from playing only a 4/6 taunt in turn 7 and a 4/4 in turn 8 is painful. Stampeding Kodo's mileage may vary.

    The only decent draw you can get from Curator is Ysera. On the whole, Curator is just weakening the entire deck.

     The most important part of curator is that it draws you 3 card, and both finley and scarab is useful even on turn 8 to get the answer you need. Seer works great even without equality
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    posted a message on Curator is proven awesome
    Quote from Rjomario >>

    Is it really good vs agro?

    Seems a bit greedy.

    what happens if you don't draw cons or equality vs zoo.

    On the other end you probably don't even care if your tirion gets entombed with this amount of value.

    And yes the curator is the last missing puzzle for these kinds of decks.

     You also have mct, doomsayer and finley for board. you have pyro to clear token, and aldor for tempo play.
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    posted a message on Curator is proven awesome

    This deck win condition is those value card (Ysera, Tirion, Rag, Cairne), and Nzoth as finishing. You should bait both their brawl/equality before dropping nzoth.

    Also, this deck is not good for playing from rank 10, not because it is weak, but because the games are long. Also, this deck is quite hard to master, but gives you a lot ofanswer to anything, so not the try it once win all the time kind of thing (like shaman/dragon warrior).

    This is more in the style of old reno mage/renolock deck where you are a hybrid and you have a lot of options every turn.

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    posted a message on Curator is proven awesome
    Quote from T4te >>

    Paladin has too good and synergistic hero power to go for FInley. If you really so desperately want to draw 3 with Curator (I'm happy with 2 or even 1 draw), then play Murloc Knight or jsut stick with Seer. Finley is counterproductive. LoH, I don't see LoH here. Acolyte>Loot Hoarder, you don't need to revive it with N'Zoth, in the late game you have actually too much cards in hand, so Hoarder can mill you, while in early game getting those draws is more important - acolyte is synergistic with Pyro, Aldor/Humility and Keeper. Overally I feel the deck is too greedy, even as for Reno. At least Rag seems to be too much.

    On contrary, paladin hero power is bad for control deck, as you need either ping ability, or survivability (warrior, priest). and you DO in fact need to turn 1 finley.

    Lay on Hands is terrible in this meta. 8 hp wont save you, and better to heal for 20 and draw with other card.
    Loot hoarder is because you need both the deathrattle, the 2 drop, and the ability to trade (loot hoarder always trade, whereas acolyte often not), you need board presense.
    Pyro in this deck is not that good, as you have fewer spell, but still works as a 2nd consecration. Murloc knight is not that good anymore with the removal of stiflin and old murkeye, an we need a lot of early game rather than midgame.
    If you play the deck, you will notice that you doest have a lot of card draw because you forgoes LoH, so you almost never overdraw (maybe you do with curator, but you should play curator when you have full hand anyway. And if you have full hand, it means you are winning already/losing already (no early drop).
    Btw, how does paladin hero power synergistic too much with its card? you no longer have quartermaster, and no buff in this deck. The only useful thing is with equality, but you will usually equality with pyro.
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    posted a message on Curator is proven awesome
    Quote from airalert3 >>

    Looks like a fun deck. What rank have you been successful at with it?

     Currently at Rank 3 now, climbed up from 5 to 3 with this deck and still going strong. People dont know to play around this deck, as they dont what card you have left. And when the curator draw 3 card, it usually wins the game
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    posted a message on Curator is proven awesome

    This deck can piss aggro like no end, and heal so much. The curator is a godsend, a 4/6 taunt with 3 card draw. Yes please!

    Reno Curator Paladin
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    posted a message on Card Forge (5 card ideas)

    Colossus Smash is very interesting to get rid of both copy of annoying card. 1 more mana for a conditional benefit is reasonable.

    Phoenix breath is also interesting for grinder mage. A mixed of forgotten torch and cabalist tome.

    Evocation is interesting if you can combine it with arcane intellect or any card draw.

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    posted a message on Card Forge (5 card ideas)

    Cool Design, and quite balanced. Although I think the weaponsmith is a bit awkward as having a 3/1 and then summoning it will destroy it instead. Imagine you have a 3/2 waraxe and enemy have x/3 minion, you want to trade and summon it, but you will destroy your weapon, but if you summon it first, you will lose the ability to trade twice. However making it give +3/1 is too much because nzoth first mate exist (and giving a 4/5) weapon is too OP.

    I think maybe it should give a 3/1 if you have no weapon, but if you do, gave your hero +3 attack this turn

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    posted a message on Why isn't anyone else playing "Enter The Coliseum" in their late game Paly decks?

    ETC + Humility is great, but I think it is less flexible than pyro+equality, aldor, uldaman, pyro.

    Paladin have a lot of staple, it is hard enough to throw some staple, let alone adding 2 new card which is less flexible than the staple

    • 2 x wild pyro, 2x equality, 2x consecration
    • 2x aldor, 2x uldaman
    • 2x truesilver
    • tirion, lay on hands

    That is 14 card already, which is half the deck. And those staple doesnt even have a win condition, so you need to insert win condition such Dragon synergy, Nzoth for heavy control which forces you to run eadric, sylvanas, and other draw card.

    Still, I can see it being used at Reno paladin. 

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    posted a message on Reno Nzoth Rogue

    Hello. Thank you for your response. Wow you climbed so fast. 

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    posted a message on Rogue is strong after WOG.

    So during WOG preview, people are hyped about shaman, C'thun. And Rogue only get meh card. However, after testing and experimenting a lot, I find that rogue has a great deck, which is N'zoth deathrattle rogue. But it suffered a lot by losing healbot, and struggles to survive until Nzoth can be played.

    So I tinker a bit and incorporate Reno in Nzoth deck, and the result is superb. Here is the deck

    Reno Nzoth Rogue
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    It works great, very fun, and challenging to pilot. But I still think the deck needs a lot of improvement, so I am open to ideas.

    Any of you guys try Reno Nzoth deck, please share experience here.

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