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Red mana wirm + Small-time bucaneer for rogues and Counterfeit Coin :)

Rogue main here. And rogue looks sweet this expansion. I know that we'll be forced to play miracle and... malygos rogue all over again but there are some great cards. Small-time bucanner is insane against shamans. Red mana wirm gives you otk potencial with conceal for example. Rogue can beat priests. And that's it.

Yes, we all know that we wanted new archetypes. Yes, we all miss oil rogue, fellow rogue mains. Yes, blizzard just gave us TOOLS FOR ALREADY EXISTANT DECKS, instead of pushing new ones, what's definetly boring.

But rogues will be at least tier two. Paladins are tucked btw. But anythin will be decent.

Idk about Warlocks tho, but there might be an new archetype, or just reinforcements for reno, what's cool.

So don't be pissed. Rogues as a class is already strong and will continue to.

If you don't agree with me, just reply, there's no need to downvote. If you wanna contact me:

#hikisnowaifu1588

Btw, fuck you Blizzard for giving us a freaking MAGMA RAGER WITH STEALTH AND A WORSE UNDERCITY HOOKSTER AND A WORSE YOUTHFULL BREWMASTER. But it's ok, it's alright. We got bucanner for early pressure and a worst innervate kind-of effect. But idk how i feel after Tomb Pillager gets out of standard. That's the card that got miracle and malygos rogue to what they are today: decent and viable decks that will continue to be decent if aggro/midrange decks don't control most of the meta.  Sally cold be used also as AOE for rogues with cold blood and stuff. 

The only thing that will tuck rogue are the decks that will try to counter jade druid. Faster decks, like face pirate warrior and stuff. But with bucanner you could out-tempo them. But that all depends on the luck.

I don't think that sally is that good. But man. Rogue has alwyas had no reliable aoe agaisnt some decks. Sally is one of them.  But a 4 mana flamestrike shouldn't be undervalued. Great against jade druids decks and could be acelerated against more aggro-ish deck with Counterfeit Coin, if needed. Rogues could just out-tempo druids, like they can do today, but more easily because of the cards provided.

So, they will at least be tier 2. You might not have played rogue for a long time to say that they will be tier 4.

Yes, no healing against those aggro decks will suck. But you'll be able to still win with the right hand (or not...).

Well, i'm voting paladin.

Malygos and Miracle Rogue will still be good and decent. But the fact that the Rogue class has to be bases in both of those archetypes again is boring. I got like 4 times legend with oil... I loved that deck. But miracle was fun for some time... now it's just meh.

Paladins didn't get great cards at all. It's aggro/midrange version won't be as good as anythin paladin. Maybe stronger than N'zoth pala , that might be better because of the more slow kind of meta... but priest will just fuck them. 

If you're voting for Rogue... you're retarded. Don't think that warlocks will be that strong. Could be more weak than paladin because of the current archetypes. But Reno will prob be good. Demonlock is coming, let's see.

Well, i would consider this one the Rogue Legendary instead of that shitty ass Shaku, the Collector (jk, i actually like the card, by making it introduce new concepts, but man, it's just too understated).

Don't see it being run in Renolock because you would just run PO for Leeroy + Faceless combo or POing your own sylvannas, or even for favorable trades when you're desperate.

It's a great aoe for rogues because of synergy with cold blood + immediate speels that kill it like shiv and backstab, but you know. Of or Rogue's problem at the moment is just no reliable aoe... and that's one more of them ( you need 3 cards to pull it off or just dropping it with cold blood in the board, what's 2). But anyway, i like the card.

Obviously effect with grimmy goons... Rogue shouldn't be part of the Lotus... imo, their concept is more Grimmy Goon-ish.

Kappa (sorry for bad English).

hehe xD

Less slow than Elise, better body... better booty.

Shaku, the Collector is crying...

I can't wait to see the rants about this card. It's a big FUCK YOU to the community, as it seems that TEAM 6 are made of only shaman ony-trick players, because... wtf.

In a slowish meta that hunter is controlled by priest that is countered by jade lotus... this will see play in all shaman decks, including mid shammy. Maelstrom and lightining storm won't be that good, because the meta will prob slow down so you could make a cut for more slowish control-sided matchups.

Lets see... it develops control shamans btw, what is cool. They just had to make a card that wouldn't fit in mid shaman. This could be in classes like warrior and rogue. But no, lets give the most broken class atm this.

When cards like trogg and tunnel trogg get removed out of standard, this card will be the card that will make shaman viable. Why couldn't they implement it in the next expansion in early 2017? Idk.

At least priest will probably fuck shamans already... but wtf. 

Fuck this.

Hello guys, Occidere here, bringing up some mage decks i've been trying and having sucess in it, in wild and standard.

Here are them :D

hikisnowaifu#1588

Have fun surviving until turn 10. You'll end up adding a bunch of cheap spells to deal with early game aggression so you can survive to play Jade Golem cards. Then you'll add Auctioneer so you can draw some cards while clearing stuff. Now, since you already have so many spells, you decide adding Questing or Arcane Giant won't hurt. And voila, you're playing Miracle again.

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The thing that I don't understand is why people are whining about this card. This card doesn't really fit into Midrange Shaman decks.

That's better than Mukla's Big Brother *Pogchamp*

I don't see how the card is overpowered at all. It's basically a 5/5 for 5 with taunt, that gives you a chance to draw a fat minion latter. I mean, you can play arcane giants for 0, faster and more consistently, and it's not overpowered.

The card is cool but I'm not sure it makes shaman viable all by itself.

you can't backstab face

are you fucking serious blizzard?

Yes, sure. Give rogue more shitty mechanics that doesn't fit with the class... better delete the class, fucking Mr. Brode.

Other strategic option for this card is wait until lategame after some buffs, a 4/8 or 8/12 taunt you only play when have a shield slam prepared for anything pops up, ruining some battlecry or effects like Ragnaros don't sound too bad to me...

Thinking about this card fits much better in CW than priest.

Not a single "wild" card in their deck....just copied from the exact standard deck.  As if all of the secret pally hordes weren't enough...now we have another equally as douchey deck in Wild.  Most of these idiots probably are just not good enough to get anywhere with midshaman in standard (which is TRULY sad), or else they think it's an easy cruise to legend, but every day that goes by makes me dislike HS more and more.  

If the next expansion doesn't shake things up significantly, I'm done with the game for sure.

Got destroyed by a midrange shaman on turn 6. Dont play this shit deck.