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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)

    Ok this has become a very repetitive and boring conversation bye

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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)
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    No, because all my other decks are random attempts at fun Control decks. Just because I attempt to have fun with the game doesnt mean I'm a bad player, and if it does then you're insulting almost every Hearthstone player.

    So you're saying that knowing how to trade and all that is much simpler than "play minions, hit face until someone dies"? Something about that doesn't quite sound right. You still haven't explained why either is better than the other though. 

    If you're assuming that every deck takes the same exact types of knowledge of the game then you really need to learn more about the game.

     Oh, look who suddenly knows what fun means! Good for you buddy
     
    And I did explain why face hunter is more complicated than midrange hunter, I'm not gonna repeat myself
    And I find Midrange Hunter fun, am I wrong for that? Since apparently fun isn't competitive or the universe will cave in or something.
    Also, you gave me reasons that also applied to Midrange Hunter, so you didn't actually explain why it takes more thought process for either. You just explained why the class in general takes thought process.
     Again, you finding it fun doesn't mean it's a "fun deck", you have a real problem with reading. And no, those don't apply to both, if you're prioritising hero powers in midrange hunter you're terrible
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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)
    Quote from Meteorite12 >>

    No, because all my other decks are random attempts at fun Control decks. Just because I attempt to have fun with the game doesnt mean I'm a bad player, and if it does then you're insulting almost every Hearthstone player.

    So you're saying that knowing how to trade and all that is much simpler than "play minions, hit face until someone dies"? Something about that doesn't quite sound right. You still haven't explained why either is better than the other though. 

    If you're assuming that every deck takes the same exact types of knowledge of the game then you really need to learn more about the game.

     Oh, look who suddenly knows what fun means! Good for you buddy
     
    And I did explain why face hunter is more complicated than midrange hunter, I'm not gonna repeat myself
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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)
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    So I'm apparently bad at the game because I used my brain durin matches? Also, you do realize that what you listed also mostly applies to Midrange Hunter right? You do need to know when to overextend, you do need to know on turn 8, if it's better to use hero power instead of playing a Fiery Bat or something like that, you do need to maximize efficiency or else you'll run out of steam quickly. Knowing how to trade is a lot more complicated than "play minions and hit face until someone is dead"

    Yeah any deck seems really simple when you put it that way.

     Still much simpler than face hunter, have you ever even been to legend without a midrange deck?
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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)
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    And where was it I said it was as complex as Freeze Mage? I was just showing how simple and "braindead" any deck seems if you simplify it so much. Also, how is it that it takes less strategy than Face Hunter? So then it takes no strategy to know when to clear minions using your spells or minions, and which trades are best, yet it takes strategy to almost always hit face? *sarcasm* sounds about right.

    So please enlighten me on how Midrange decks supposedly take little to no thought power.

     If you think playing Face Hunter at the top level is easier than playing midrange hunter I'm gonna have to assume you're bad at the game. Knowing how much damage you can spend on the board, knowing how much you can extend, knowing when to squeeze in hero powers over minions and maximising efficiency is a lot more complicated than "play on curve and make value trades until you can set up lethal"
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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)
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    You know, there is a chance there's someone who actually does find that deck fun. Why that's apparently impossible to you, I don't know, but it is very much possible. Like I said multiple times, fun is subjective, meaning what one person finds fun, someone else might not. It's 100% opinion based, you should all stop acting like you're better for having a specific opinion.

     Nobody is saying you can't have fun playing braindead midrange meta decks, but they are not what the community means when they say "fun decks" and it is not a subjective term
    Like I said earlier, it doesn't make sense to use a subjective word in a definitive term on the site. And fun is very much subjective, being based on the person's experiences and opinions. Also, why are they supposedly braindead? Just because you don't like them? 
     Sure it does, when the term has been adopted and narrowed down in scope it's perfectly acceptable. Nobody's saying you can't have fun playing midrange hunter, but you can't call it a "fun deck" because that's not how the term is understood. And they're braindead because they're conducive to the least decision making among all the archetypes, much less than even aggro. Nothing "supposedly" about it, that's what they're built to do. "Curve out, hit your beats, win game", that's the entire gameplan
    So in that case, have you successfully played a Midrange Hunter? Because guess what, there is thought in the deck *gasp*. You need to be able to figure out the best and most efficient trades, be able to know when to go face and when to trade. If you simplify the game plan of a deck then it sounds thoughtless. For example, Freeze Mage. "Get Alexstrazsa, hit face with spells, win game", that's the entire game plan. And we both know there's more to it than that, so why not Midrange Hunter?
     lmao are you serious dude? Yes, I have successfully played Midrange Hunter and most other mainstream decks, and it IS braindead the same way most midrange decks are. Of course there are decisions to be made but you have to be kidding me if you think it's anywhere close to freeze mage, it's more braindead than face hunter ever was
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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)
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    You know, there is a chance there's someone who actually does find that deck fun. Why that's apparently impossible to you, I don't know, but it is very much possible. Like I said multiple times, fun is subjective, meaning what one person finds fun, someone else might not. It's 100% opinion based, you should all stop acting like you're better for having a specific opinion.

     Nobody is saying you can't have fun playing braindead midrange meta decks, but they are not what the community means when they say "fun decks" and it is not a subjective term
    Like I said earlier, it doesn't make sense to use a subjective word in a definitive term on the site. And fun is very much subjective, being based on the person's experiences and opinions. Also, why are they supposedly braindead? Just because you don't like them? 
     Sure it does, when the term has been adopted and narrowed down in scope it's perfectly acceptable. Nobody's saying you can't have fun playing midrange hunter, but you can't call it a "fun deck" because that's not how the term is understood. And they're braindead because they're conducive to the least decision making among all the archetypes, much less than even aggro. Nothing "supposedly" about it, that's what they're built to do. "Curve out, hit your beats, win game", that's the entire gameplan
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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)
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    You know, there is a chance there's someone who actually does find that deck fun. Why that's apparently impossible to you, I don't know, but it is very much possible. Like I said multiple times, fun is subjective, meaning what one person finds fun, someone else might not. It's 100% opinion based, you should all stop acting like you're better for having a specific opinion.

     Nobody is saying you can't have fun playing braindead midrange meta decks, but they are not what the community means when they say "fun decks" and it is not a subjective term
     The "community" is just the vocal minority lol. Confirmation bias isn't an argument you know.
     Every single person who's played this game for more than a few months knows what you mean when you say "is this a fun deck or is it competitive". Vocal minority my ass
     Hyperbole, confirmation bias, and applying the thoughts of a minority to the whole... Any other fallacies you want to make?
    It is very much a vocal minority. One of these days you'll have to grow up and realize everyone doesn't agree with you.
     Stop trying to be a prescriptivist and realise word definitions are descriptive. The term used by a community is the objectively correct term when most people use and understand it in the same fashion. Make a poll if you're so convinced it's a minority, ask what people understand by the term "fun deck" and come back when you have your census
     Lol and get a minority who actually respond to the poll. Give me a break...
     I don't see a problem with that, people who don't talk also don't affect word usage
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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)
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    Quote from Meteorite12 >>

    You know, there is a chance there's someone who actually does find that deck fun. Why that's apparently impossible to you, I don't know, but it is very much possible. Like I said multiple times, fun is subjective, meaning what one person finds fun, someone else might not. It's 100% opinion based, you should all stop acting like you're better for having a specific opinion.

     Nobody is saying you can't have fun playing braindead midrange meta decks, but they are not what the community means when they say "fun decks" and it is not a subjective term
     The "community" is just the vocal minority lol. Confirmation bias isn't an argument you know.
     Every single person who's played this game for more than a few months knows what you mean when you say "is this a fun deck or is it competitive". Vocal minority my ass
     Hyperbole, confirmation bias, and applying the thoughts of a minority to the whole... Any other fallacies you want to make?
    It is very much a vocal minority. One of these days you'll have to grow up and realize everyone doesn't agree with you.
     Stop trying to be a prescriptivist and realise word definitions are descriptive. The term used by a community is the objectively correct term when most people use and understand it in the same fashion. Make a poll if you're so convinced it's a minority, ask what people understand by the term "fun deck" and come back when you have your census
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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)
    Quote from nocontrol1111 >>
    Quote from eglepe >>
    Quote from Meteorite12 >>

    You know, there is a chance there's someone who actually does find that deck fun. Why that's apparently impossible to you, I don't know, but it is very much possible. Like I said multiple times, fun is subjective, meaning what one person finds fun, someone else might not. It's 100% opinion based, you should all stop acting like you're better for having a specific opinion.

     Nobody is saying you can't have fun playing braindead midrange meta decks, but they are not what the community means when they say "fun decks" and it is not a subjective term
     The "community" is just the vocal minority lol. Confirmation bias isn't an argument you know.
     Every single person who's played this game for more than a few months knows what you mean when you say "is this a fun deck or is it competitive". Vocal minority my ass
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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)
    Quote from Meteorite12 >>

    You know, there is a chance there's someone who actually does find that deck fun. Why that's apparently impossible to you, I don't know, but it is very much possible. Like I said multiple times, fun is subjective, meaning what one person finds fun, someone else might not. It's 100% opinion based, you should all stop acting like you're better for having a specific opinion.

     Nobody is saying you can't have fun playing braindead midrange meta decks, but they are not what the community means when they say "fun decks" and it is not a subjective term
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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)
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    lmao are you kidding dude? Do you know what the word "fun" means? "Fun" is blood warriors, "fun" is mill rogue, the word you were thinking of is "broken". The only reason you think it's fun is because it's been winning over half your games for you

     Technically that's incorrect. Fun is subjective, meaning that while you find that fun, that doesn't mean that it's fun for anyone else. You're basically saying that they're wrong for having their own opinion of fun that differs from yours, and acting as though your definition is inherently better than theirs. Some people enjoy winning, some people enjoy playing random decks, some people enjoy throwing down legendaries. Until you accept that your definition isn't the only correct one, then your comments won't have any relevance to the topic at hand.
     Nope, everyone knows what "fun" is talking about within the community. Nobody was calling Mysterious Challenger a "fun" card, when people ask "is this a fun deck or is it competitive" we all know what it means. Whether he has fun with it or not is irrelevant when we're asking whether the card itself is inherently fun. If one person enjoying something is enough to qualify it as fun then the word no longer means anything
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    posted a message on Call of the NERF! (nerf Call of the Wild)

    lmao are you kidding dude? Do you know what the word "fun" means? "Fun" is blood warriors, "fun" is mill rogue, the word you were thinking of is "broken". The only reason you think it's fun is because it's been winning over half your games for you

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    posted a message on Handlock in 2016?! 62+% Winrate

    The deck is kind of built around the spell tempo gain from Cho'gall and Medivh so idk how it'd work without him but a tempo drop like Ragnaros would probably do a similar job. Emperor's super important for stuff like Jaraxxus and Sylvanas combos, not to mention just general hand cost, but you could try a Mountain Giant or maybe even a second Hellfire

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    posted a message on Handlock in 2016?! 62+% Winrate

    Sure, I'm #2697, same username. On EU though

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