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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    Hmm... this hasn't been my experience! I went rank 18>5 with this deck for the month of October with a 74% WR... still working for me.

    One thing that is surely true: people know the deck much better than they used to, so it likely requires tighter play (especially in dealing with opponents board wipes/entombs, and using mulligan correctly).

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    Patron isn't the easiest match-up. Yea not worth changing too much as we are very strong vs most of the meta. I am sure you know this but key things that help me are:

    • Try to play around ravaging ghoul a bit
    • Always kill frothing ASAP
    • Try to get them to use 2nd hit on deathbite before you sludge
    • If you're facing tons of this, possibly tech in a 2nd ulda (really good for tempo and taking out 2nd patron copy) and Loatheb
    • Consider keeping MC in starting hands if you have some early game, as it's pretty hard for them to deal with
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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    Hey bud... I gotta say imo it's not a good replacement.

    The thing about Dr. Boom is that he is ALWAYS good. We very often play him to recover from a board wipe (i.e. light bomb/flame strike) when we have no board at all, and in these situations kel thuzad isn't good at all. He can create some really crazy situations, but that's just it; he's situational.

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    That's super fast! Nicely done man. :D

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    Thanks for your input! Secret eater is definitely viable tech if you're playing against tons of secret pally/hunter/freeze mage (which is good chunk of meta). I do not agree with cutting secret keeper as I outright win so many games because of t1 secretkeeper followed by 1-2 secrets. Bad players frequently misplay and use their secrets and buff him too when you are playing above rank 5, which is nice.

    I definitely see wanting to keep 2x ulda for booms/giants/other players buffed MCs... I wonder if there is another cut for this tech slot we are not thinking of?

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    Hmm... if you keep trying he should work out for you. The odds are really good. You have 19 possible other creatures to hit, and out of all of these, only 5 are "vanilla" minions. You are are going to get better than a regular 1/1 roughly 3/4 of the time. And if you happen to hit a very favorable minion, of which you have 8/19 (creeper/piloted/sludge/sylv/tirion), you are extremely likely to win.

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    Great point, sludge does make him slightly less valuable here. I think in general the deck already has lower curved and more efficient deathrattles, and we don't want to make things topheavy since we already have an amazing late game (MC/boom/tirion/n'zoth) if we can control the board.

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    You're welcome!

    My reasoning for this cut is: haunted creeper has extremely good synergy with barnes, while cutting an ulda removes a vanilla target from the deck (making barnes better on average)... and finally 2x creep is really good in making steward/knife consistent while giving us more early drops for our starting hand.

    If anyone has any other ideas for cuts I am all ears. :)

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    Updated the list. :)

    I am not 100% that uldaman was the best cut, but this is what I am playing currently.  Not really sure what else to get rid of though...

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    As solid as Cairne is, I really don't think there is a place for him in the list. He is just very slow, and we already have a lot of top end guys (2x MC/boom/tirion/nzoth). The deck is already packed with slightly more efficient deathrattle (sludge/piloted), so he's not offering something wholly distinct even tho he's good.

    It's already hard to fit in all the amazing cards available for us (we don't even include loatheb, divine favor, truesilver in stock list), so I really don't think he makes the cut given how high he is in the curve.

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    Yes, I'm currently using barnes and he's performing extremely well. I cut one of the ulda, but I am not sure if this is optimal. A creeper or steward may also be a suitable cut. For me... Barnes is the only card worth including from the new set as this list is very tight.

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    Unfortunately he can't be replaced. Dr. Boom is dr. boom. He is worth crafting if you want to play wild. Till that time just pick a bomb of your choice in his stead (sneeds/ragnaros/etc... or even divine favor just to refill hand).

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    Thanks! I've definitely found it effective.

    Sylvannas is totally optional (the most optional card in the list, imo). Loatheb is a great replacement. Alternatively you can pick something else that suits your needs, like: divine favor (if you want draw), eater of secrets (improves mirror, helps vs freeze and tempo mage, good vs secret hunter), or a generic good card like truesilver.

    Sadly there is simply no replacement for Dr. Boom. He is probably the best neutral legendary in the game and belongs in most decks in wild. If you are grasping for a replacement "bomb" card... you could go for sneeds shredder (synergy with n'zoth) or something like ragnaros.

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    Thanks mate! Appreciate you posting your gameplay...cool if I add to OP when I update next so there's some footage? I should probly make some of my own when time permits...

    Big grats on golden pally! I'm still 130 wins away ;/.

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    posted a message on Demopolos' #2 Legend Secret Pally (72% WR)

    You're so welcome man! Happy it took you to legend.

    Loatheb is really really strong indeed! The list is so tight that I'm not sure what the best cut actually is for him... we only have one knife and it is so synergized with the creeps/muster/hero. I guess he's not totally necessary.

    I do think that barnes is exceptional in this list, but if you are not running him, I'd actually cut Sylvannas for Loatheb (helps curve, sylv loses a little value without barnes). You're right that ulda is a extremely consistent here, and might not be the best barnes sub, though I'm not sure what the lowest hanging fruit is...

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