If you boster Deathlord, the boss stops attacking and just fills his side of the board until you can oneshot him with all your whirlwind effects.
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Randymarshlol posted a message on [HEROIC] Terestian Illhoof (+VIDEO)Posted in: [HEROIC] Terestian Illhoof (+VIDEO) -
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Zemouchi posted a message on [LoE] Heroic SkelesaurusPosted in: [LoE] Heroic SkelesaurusThis boss is absolutely ridiculous its not even funny...
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Illuriel posted a message on [Heroic Zinaar] Flamewaker MagePosted in: [Heroic Zinaar] Flamewaker Magethis crap is not working, never ever did more thatn 5 damage, totally overwhelmed by rockbiters and whirlwind mech
up to 10 losses in a row now
edit: 14 tries till win
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darparniox posted a message on How to beat Heroic Kel'Thuzad using Healadin!Posted in: How to beat Heroic Kel'Thuzad using Healadin!Ironically, my replacement for Tirion was Kel'Thuzad, and it worked extremly well.
If you have a belcher and KT up, he doesnt actually attack at all.
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Go for the Warrior Grim Patrol deck.
Much better.
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I did it with the Paladin deck, but it may work.
Insert Kel Thuzad to explore the glitch where if you have Kel thuzad + Taunt he does not attack at all.
Spare him to the second phase.
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Works.
Just explore the glitch where if you have Kel Thuzad + Taunt it does not attack at all.
So, spare the big boys to the second phase and play a Taunt + Kel thuzad, always giving him choices for the steal.
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Don't waste your time with this, go with the Mage fatigue deck (http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/94114-mage-fatigue-for-heroic-sapphiron-70-win-rate).
I don't haver all this deck cards, maybe it's why it didn't work, but Mage's is much easier.
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Very nice.
Win on the first try after about 30 tries with Hunter deck.
Duplicate went well with Antique Healbot as I did not have all the cards.
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No kidding, i won on the first try after trying warlock expensive deck for about 20 times.
Played with the expensive version of cards suggested by the creator above.
Just go for the face and use Bloodlust to kill him.
Don't loose your time with warlock decks.
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As Beta is live right now, let's collect info on the rewards.
Arena costs $2 or 150 gold.
If you get 7 wins, you get the money you invested back.
For reference, if you want to know the odds estimates for getting cards, check it here:
cards-rarity-chances-on-packs
CONCLUSIONS
EDIT: It may be out of date, as we had patches. The spreadsheet includes data from before the patch.
Spreadsheet. (with Chart)
2 packs: We had 2 pack rewards 3 times, only in 9 win runs, out of 15 times. So, we had a 1/5 chance of getting 2 packs when winning 9 times. But it doesn't seem to be an advantage, as you lose about 100 in gold and/or dust.
Golden common: We had golden common card reward in 6 opportunities out of 63 times. Looks like it may happen in all victory scenarios. It gives us around 10% chance of getting it each Arena run, or 2% for each prize (that is just the same for packs, 2% for each card).
Couldn't find a connection between gold and dust but it appears that you get proportionally more gold as the number of wins grows up (until 4 wins you get in average the same amount of gold and dust, after that, you get more gold).
Conclusions by Gantonaci
gantonaci has made a very nice work on the data (original post #96, page 7). His conclusions next:
Crates first roll to see if they contain gold, arcane dust, golden card or pack. After that the amount of gold or dust of each crate is rolled independently.
It may be that first crates roll for crate of little gold, crate of lots of gold, etc. and then when rolling for the amount these different crates would have different probabilities. However to test this hypothesis we would need much more data. So, for now, I'm assuming a simpler model.
For 7 wins, 2 crates will always contain 75G. The other 2 are random. For 8 wins 2 crates will always contain 75G+ and the other 2 are random. For 9 wins 1 crate will always contain 150G and the other 3 are random.
I'm assuming we can get more than 1 golden card or more than 2 packs. Since probabilities are really small we will not be sure of this for a long time.
Spreadsheet. (with Chart)
Data: updated to post #94
(this won't be updated anymore, as the updates are being done directly into the Spreadsheet)
0 wins: 5 g + 5 g + 5 arc + 5 arc = 10 gold, 10 arcane, 1 pack (darhoth, tx Erskow)
5 g + 5 g + 10 arc + 5 arc = 10 gold, 15 arcane, 1 pack (fluxflashor, tx)
5 g + 5 g + 10 g + 5 arc = 20 gold, 5 arcane, 1 pack (ZenGalactic, tx)
1 win: 5 g + 5 g + 5 g = 15 gold, 10 arcane, 1 pack (Blizz stream)
10 g + 10 g + 5 g = 25 gold, 5 arcane, 1 pack (Noxious)
20 gold, 5 arcane, 1 pack (tx ZenGalactic)
5 g + 10 g + 5 g + 10 arc = 20 gold, 10 arcane, 1 pack (darhoth, tx Erskow)
10 g + 5 arc + 5 arc + 5 arc = 10 gold, 15 arcane, 1 pack (RoyInverse, tx)
5 g + 5 g + 5 g + 10 arc = 15 gold, 10 arcane, 1 pack (ZenGalactic, tx)
2 wins: 25 g + 10 g + 5 arc + 5 arc = 35 gold + 10 arcane + 1 pack (Noxious)
25 g + 5 g + 5 g + 10 arc = 35 gold, 10 arcane, 1 pack (Ezm0d, tx Erscow)
5 g + 10 g + 5 arc + 20 arc = 15 gold, 25 arcane, 1 pack (WarProphet, tx)
20 g + 10 arc + 10 arc + 5 arc = 20 gold, 25 arcane, 1 pack (RoyInverse, tx)
5 g + 5 arc + 5 arc + 15 arc = 5 gold, 25 arcane, 1 pack (WarProphet, tx)
3 wins: 25 g + 5 g + 10 g = 40 gold, 10 arcane, 1 pack (Noxious)
5 g + 5 arc + 5 arc + 25 arc = 5 gold, 35 arcane, 1 pack (Noxious, 17/08)
25 arc + 10 arc + 5 arc + 5 arc = 45 arcane, 1 pack (darhoth, tx Erskow)
5 gold, 30 arcane, 1 pack (sanktanglia, tx)
25 g + 5 g + 5 arc + 5 arc = 30 gold, 10 arcane, 1 pack (RoyInverse, tx)
10 g + 5 g + 15 arc + 5 arc = 15 gold, 20 arcane, 1 pack (ZenGalactic, tx)
10 g + 30 arc + 10 arc + 5 arc = 10 gold, 45 arcane, 1 pack (RoyInverse, tx)
30 g + 5 arc + 5 arc + 5 arc = 30 gold, 15 arcane, 1 pack (gantonaci, tx)
4 wins: 10 g + 5 g + 5 arc = 15 gold, 4 arcane, 1 pack, 1 Golden common (Noxious, tx Flamedruid)
10 g + 30 g + 10 arc + 5 arc = 40 gold, 15 arcane, 1 pack (Noxious)
10 g + 50 arc + 15 arc + 10 arc = 10 gold, 75 arcane, 1 pack (gantonaci, tx)
40 g + 10 arc + 10 arc + 5 arc = 40 gold, 25 arcane, 1 pack (RoyInverse, tx)
5 wins: 25 g + 25 g + 5 g + 50 arc = 55 gold, 50 arcane, 1 pack (WarProphet, tx - fixed)
20 g + 15 g + 55 arc + 30 arc = 35 gold, 85 arcane, 1 pack (Fluxflashor, tx)
55 g + 30 arc + 30 arc + 15 arc = 55 gold, 75 arcane, 1 pack (Ezm0d, tx Erskow)
15 g + 55 arc + 25 arc + 5 arc = 15 gold, 85 arcane, 1 pack (darhoth, tx Erskow)
30 arc + 30 arc + 30 arc + 10 arc = 100 arcane, 1 pack (darneous, tx)
25 g + 15 g + 30 arc + 25 arc = 40 gold, 55 arcane, 1 pack (snowhammer, tx)
25 g + 30 g + 10 g + 30 arc = 65 gold, 30 arcane, 1 pack (snowhammer, tx)
15 g + 5 g + 15 arc = 20 gold, 15 arcane, 1 pack, 1 Golden Common (Rabidwhale, tx)
15 g + 5 g + 25 arc + 45 arc = 20 gold, 70 arcane, 1 pack (gantonaci, tx)
20 g + 25 arc + 10 arc = 20 gold, 35 arcane, 1 Golden Common, 1 pack (Kyradis, tx)
6 wins: 55 g + 50 g + 15 g = 120 gold, 5 arcane, 1 pack (Shnackaran, tx)
50 g + 15 g + 5 arc = 65 gold, 5 arcane, 1 pack, 1 Golden common (darhoth, tx Erskow)
75 gold, 50 arcane, 1 pack (Noxious, tx Knightsavior)
15 g + 5 g + 70 arc + 50 arc = 20 gold, 120 arcane, 1 pack (Redbeastmage, tx)
50 g + 5 g+ 15 g + 60 arc = 70 gold, 60 arcane, 1 pack (RoyInverse, tx)
45 g + 35 g + 15 g + 5 arc = 95 gold, 5 arcane, 1 pack (RoyInverse, tx)
15 g + 35 g + 70 g + 10 arc = 120 gold, 10 arcane, 1 pack (Redbeastmage, tx)
45 g + 15 g + 5 g + 40 arc = 65 gold, 40 arcane, 1 pack (ZenGalactic, tx)
45 g + 60 arc + 15 arc + 15 arc = 45 gold, 90 arcane, 1 pack (Kyradis, tx)
35 g + 10 g + 50 arc + 5 arc = 45 gold, 55 arcane, 1 pack (NitroKoS, tx)
7 wins: 5 g + 75 g + 75 g = 155 gold, 1 pack, 1 Golden common (RoyInverse, tx)
75 g + 75 g + 50 g + 5 arc = 200 gold, 5 arcane, 1 pack (RoyInverse, tx)
75 g + 75 g + 10 arc = 150 gold, 10 arcane, 1 pack, 1 Golden Common (Noxious)
75 g + 75 g + 35 g + 5 g = 190 gold, 1 pack (Kyradis, tx)
75 g + 75 g + 40 g + 5 arcane = 190 gold, 5 arcane, 1 pack (Kyradis, tx)
75 g + 75 g + 45 g + 5 arc = 195 gold, 5 arcane, 1 pack (ZenGalactic, tx)
8 wins: 90 g + 80 g + 40 g = 210 gold, 60 arcane, 1 pack (darneous, tx)
85 g + 75 g + 40 arc + 50 arc = 160 gold, 90 arc, 1 pack (snowhammer, tx)
90 g + 75 g + 50 g + 50 g = 265 gold, 1 pack (Kripp, tx Dpsdoug)
100 g + 75 g + 50 g + 50 arc = 275 gold, 50 arcane, 1 pack (Kyradis, tx)
100 g + 80 g + 65 g + 45 g = 290 gold, 1 pack (Kyradis, tx)
9 wins: 150 g + 80 g + 65 g = 295 gold, 35 arcane, 1 pack (Ezm0d. - tx Erskow)
95 arc + 60 arc + 55 arc = 150 gold, 210 arcane, 1 pack (Ezm0d. - tx Erskow)
150 g + 50 g + 95 arc + 55 arc = 200 gold, 150 arcane, 1 pack (Noxious)
150 g + 50 g + 50 g + 90 arc = 250 gold, 90 arcane, 1 pack (Shnackaran, tx)
150 g + 30 g + 55 arc + 95 arc = 180 gold, 150 arcane, 1 pack (Jotto, tx Nirva)
150 g + 55 arc + 105 arc = 150 gold, 160 arcane, 1 Golden Common, 1 pack (WarProphet, tx)
150 g + 50 g + 40 arc = 200 gold, 40 arcane, 2 packs (GiefCat, tx FiendFellow)
150 g + 75 g + 50 arc + 90 arc = 225 gold, 140 arcane, 1 pack (Feenom, tx)
150 g + 100 g + 50 g + 65 arc = 300 gold, 65 arcane. 1 pack (Kyradis, tx)
150 g + 40 arc + 40 arc = 150 gold, 80 arcane, 2 packs (Kripp, tx Dpsdoug)
150 g + 50 g + 100 arc + 50 arc = 200 gold, 150 arcane, 1 pack (Kyradis, tx)
150 g + 105 g + 70 g + 35 arc = 325 gold, 35 arcane, 1 pack (fr0d0b0ls0n, tx)
150 g + 40 g + 85 arc + 70 arc = 190 gold, 155 arcane, 1 pack (Noxious)
150 g + 90 arc + 70 arc + 40 arc = 150 gold, 200 arcane, 1 pack (fr0d0b0ls0n, tx)
150 g + 60 g + 65 arc = 210 gold, 65 arcane, 2 packs (Squishei, tx)
150 g + 50 g + 55 g = 255 gold, 2 packs (Kyradis, tx)
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Which will be the chances of getting a Legendary card?
And Epic, Rare and common?
UPDATED:
good post on official forums: here
- 1 Rare each 0,85 to 0,90 packs
- 1 Epic each +- 5 packs
- 1 Legendary each +- 20 packs
Golden:
2% Chance of Golden Common (1 Every 50 Cards)
1% Chance of Golden Rare - 1% (1 Every 100 Cards)
0.25% Chance Golden Epic (1 Every 400 Cards)
0.05% Golden Legendary (1 Every 2000 Cards)