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Smiteful Summoner genuinely made me laugh 

Your post is so convoluted that it’s hard to tell that you’re actually not a druid main and are complaining that other classes are paying for druid’s sins. But if that’s the case, the only other lists i can think of that run Kazakusan, that being control warrior and dragon priest, already either meet the card’s new requirement or are very close to doing so. Control Warrior runs Onyxia and two copies of the taunt dragon that shield slams, so what’s the issue in throwing one or two more dragons or amalgams to activate the requirement? However, i agree with the notion that this nerf does absolutely nothing to fix the issue with druids in this meta.

Sooo sick of hearing this excuse that pirate warrior isn’t good in high legend and therefore shouldn’t be nerfed. Not only were the problematic cards left untouched but it continues to get more support to push it over the edge. Not one of the other quest archetypes from Stormwind is relevant to this degree at this point as virtually none of them received new cards to work with this expansion. Just kill off the deck already

If Mage, Hunter,  DH, priest, and rogue all have viable decks on day one isn't that already half of the classes in the game being playable before any fine tuning? 

What are you guys playing against it to lose so often? Lol

looking at it right now and unfortunately my regular copy of Finley is only offering 400 dust to disenchant it.  I’ll try to reset my client and see if it helps.

So i purchased a tavern pass for the new expansion as soon as it became available and then purchased about 60 packs. I then opened Finley as one of my legendaries although i was awarded a diamond copy as part of the pass. I was under the impression that i wouldn’t be able to get another copy fall due to the duplicate protection. Am i allowed to submit a ticket for this to get a dust refund or am i out of luck? Thanks

Unbelievable..

Warrior mains are so spoiled with removal options that they think a 1 mana kill almost anything is bad

Sorry but the cards rotating in for mage are some of the best the class has ever had imo. Explosive Runes, Blizzard, Kalecgos? All very relevant in their day. Pyromaniac also looks like a huge win for ping mage.

If the purpose of this algorithm is to force players to spend more money, then why has it been perfectly possible to hit legend with only face hunter since Descent of Dragons came out? 

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So I guess I'm wearing a tinfoil hat when I face priest after priest with multitude of taunts and decide to use owl for silence but then haven't seen a priest since and it's been well over fifteen matches.

If anyone believes matchmaking isn't rigged then they're in denial.

 

 Your problem is running Ironbeak Owl when Royal Librarian and Showstopper are available in standard

You know what i never see mentioned in these sorr of discussions? How every iteration of AI within the Hearthstone client is objectively awful. Everything from the “smart” deck builder to CPU opponents or Zephrys’s perfect card system is infamous for being braindead so how exactly could this incredible matchmaking system be in place behind the scenes this whole time? Not only would they need to implement a state of the art algorithm that matches decks with their exact counters at separate intervals to maximize frustration, but they would also need to have these other, terrible AIs in place as red herrings to purposely make the developers look like buffoons. If that is really what that team sits and does all day then i can’t help but laugh at the level of cartoonish villainy that would entail. 

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 This argument is willfully obtuse from the start because the problematic kazakusan decks don’t play him “when you have nothing else in your deck” at all and that’s precisely the problem. If that is the scenario in which the card is meant to be used then it should just add the treasures to your existing deck instead of potentially replacing it outright on turn 3/4/5 with ramp. That would make it very strong in the late game with some swing potential earlier on instead of a guaranteed onslaught of treasures back to back every time he drop

 On the other hand it also mean that control decks can outplay Kaz druid. It also means that druid may have to wait playing Kaz if they also want a cenarion ward and solar eclipse. You have a fair chance to outplay them since it's basically only two boards you need to clear. Like 1 mass polymorph and 1 devolving missiles. Ramp druid was the worst performing deck in GM's since everybody knew how to play around it now. turn 1 trogg almost auto wins.

I don’t really see anything wrong with control being capable of outplaying a board-based deck. What i’m proposing is that yes, Druids should be playing through their actual cards such as Cenarion Ward etc. before being able to play Kazakusan to potentially close out the game. Also if the treasures were added to their existing deck they could still draw into them at any point, just not guaranteed every turn. It would be like a better version of Prestor which I believe is a fair card with considerable swing potential.

Also i don’t doubt that GMs would be able to play around Druids at this point, but at the same time these tournaments allow you to view the other competitor’s decks before you head into a match, so you would already know what to mulligan for and what your game plan would need to be unless you draw badly or your strategy is directly countered by your opponent. It’s not directly comparable to ladder unless i’m wrong about the format of the championship.

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it's as healthy as any other card, there is nothing wrong in particular with Kazakusan, other than being played a lot and being frustrating to face because of that, but then you complain about the very concept of metagame, which has nothing to do with Kazakusan.

Every deck has counters and if they don't, they get nerfed.

Also for people saying you should actually HAVE dragons in your deck when activating Kazakusan effect, I mean that's great and all, makes sense given the card text and flavor, but that just means Kazakusan will see no play at all, and everyone knows that. You couldn't just have a few dragons in your deck, because you're at risk of drawing all your dragons before given the chance to play Kazakusan. So you'd have to play actual dragon decks, and who does that in 2022, nobody, cause dragons suck. It is pretty obvious Kaz was meant to be played when you have nothing left in your deck, despite the dragon oriented card text. He literally replaces your deck with other stuff. The dragons left in your deck would be of no use other than being a text activator.

Basically, the card is fine, and if you don't like facing the same cards and decks over and over again, maybe you should consider quitting competitive online games. And if you think about it, it's not the meta that sucks. It's the people who make it. You shouldn't blame it on any card.

There's really 3 simple options for anti-meta people out there :

-Keep making off meta decks and bring some fun to the ladder. Every time you face an opponent, they face an off meta deck, there's a high chance you make someone like you happy every time that happens. And this will encourage others to do the same, and maybe face you one day.

-if you can't beat it, join it. That's why metas exist to begin with.

-Quit.

 This argument is willfully obtuse from the start because the problematic kazakusan decks don’t play him “when you have nothing else in your deck” at all and that’s precisely the problem. If that is the scenario in which the card is meant to be used then it should just add the treasures to your existing deck instead of potentially replacing it outright on turn 3/4/5 with ramp. That would make it very strong in the late game with some swing potential earlier on instead of a guaranteed onslaught of treasures back to back every time he drops.