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"I actually think it's a real fun idea, especially for f2p and younger players in general. Not everything has to be viable for Tier 1 Decks... "

" I really desperately hope that the playerbase start trying to enjoy the game instead of trying to climb all the time but that thing will never happen."

Yeah here's the thing even if you want to take that kind of tone. What exactly is new or big or exciting about this kind of effect? As documented, we've seen it before. Numerous times. And what's so great or big or exciting about filling your deck up with crappy cards like Harbringer Celestia, again?

Chef Nomi is something new and different and memey (And you know what's cool? I'm not even so quick to rule this out, because it does have a place in super slow controlly fatiguey metas) and a new different, unique effect.

This is just the same old thing we've seen a million times that only one class can use.

So your pretentious "I'm better than you because I don't meta!" argument doesn't even function on the level of fun memes. Which is kinda sad.

I'd honestly rather pull Madam Goya over Harbringer Celestia.

Which probably says something about how good "turn your deck into legendaries" actually is. I don't know why they keep trying to make this effect work. It hasn't been good. It isn't going to BE good. Discard Warlock is less of a lost cause. And not even High Priestess Jek'lik could save that one.

 Yeah I never even once remotely implied this wasn't a deathrattle, what the hell are you on. Why would I constantly mention Six Mana Silences throughout my posts if I thought this was a battlecry? Since bloody when has silencing battlecries got us anywhere? Take your own advice, mate.

But if you want to play that game, Fireworks Teching the Oblivitron so you don't even have to risk it then, again providing the Whelp is in your hand? That's more or less GG if you're safe on health and they can't deal with all your stuff. And it's even worse if you happen to have the other Whelp in your hand. And of course that's unlikely, but if you pull out BOTH of your whelps with this thing with the help of Fireworks Tech, well...

Like I said, people are underestimating this. As hard as it is to pull that entire combo of Fireworks Tech and Oblivitron and Mechanical Whelp off, when you DO, it's like Kobolds all over again with the mana cheat nonsense, and because one of them summons another 7/7, it's not as simple as wiping the board. I honestly don't know if I WANT to see support printed for this- Not because the combo is good and will dominate the meta or anything like that, right now it's far too inconsistent. But there is more there than people seem to realize, and I for one have had enough of Deathrattle Hunter spawning giant minions out of freaking nowhere and I could live without a slower variant of the same deck coming back in a meta meant to flush out all these old decks in Standard right now.

Then again, maybe I'd be happy as long as it wasn't overcompensated for and became a Tier 1, because hear me now and believe me later- this combo sucks, and it's very inconsistent, but printing support for it could be very dangerous, and it doesn't need nearly as much as you all may think it does. If this year of Standard has taught us anything, it's been that highrolling can be extremely overwhelming and extremely frustrating to deal with, and boy, is this quite the highroll combo right here. Sure, it's not Keleseth on 2, but I still can't say I like where we're headed here if they try and do too much to make this archetype popular rather than a fringe meme deck.

Here's the thing, I actually think this card is extremely powerful if you can get the whelp out with it. 6 mana 3/4, get a 7/7, get a 2/2 that summons ANOTHER 7/7? That's six mana you paid to get 19/20 worth of stats out? That's absolutely insane, even though you run the risk of silence. Hell, even if you do get silenced, six mana to force a silence in a deck that hates when their stuff gets silenced? That's not the worst scenario, you can still play the whelp in your hand. Won't get the payoff you were looking for, but it's not like you autolost the game because you forced a silence for 6 mana. There's much more expensive cards that hate getting silenced.

But here's the problem- Spider Bomb. Very important card in DR Hunter. And here's the other problem, you have no way of ensuring your Oblivitron will pull out your Whelp and not your Spider Bomb. And if you do get the Spider Bomb, then the results are... not that great, and potentially a waste of the Spider Bomb, even.

But you could just not run the Spider Bomb.

Sure, you could.

But then you're giving up an even more efficient Deadly Shot to carry you into the mid-late game where you can start crapping out all these insane amounts of stats on the board. And doing that to carry you into the lategame.... meh, I don't like that.

But I do think people are sleeping on just how ridiculous it is to pull the Whelp out with this, and how it's at a very reasonable mana cost to be a terrifying card that demands the use of a Silence. It's just complicated right now due to the whole Spider Bomb thing, and how I really don't think subbing in Deadly Shot is an acceptable compromise.

 You also need to have the Whelp in your hand to make the Oblivitron thing actually work, and considering Hunter's card draw, you really don't often HAVE the Oblivitron combo all locked and ready to go on 6, so that's another thing right there...

I will tell you I would certainly LIKE to try and build a deck that tries to pop as many Mechanical Whelps as humanly possible after Deathrattle Hunter with the eggs rotates, that sounds fun.

See, I know a lot of people are talking about the Dragon Roar buff, sometimes jokingly, but it actually does seem pretty significant.

Temporus is rotating out and that was obviously a terrible roll, Sindragosa is rotating out and that was also kind of a terrible roll for Warrior, the tokens could get you some nice cards but it was also a bit slow for questionable payoff, there's better cards you want to roll. Sleepy Dragon is out and that wasn't a very good roll, you'd rather have Ysera. And Bone Drake is out but it's honestly better to cut out the Bone Drake middle man and just find yourself a nice Dragon card instead without going through the 6 mana 6/5. And then this very strong Dragon rotates in that Warrior would love to be able to play. 

I didn't even consider it before, but this whole set rotation is one giant buff to Dragon's Roar just for filtering out all of these sub-optimal possibilities. And Dragon Warrior already looks to climb the ranks with Baku dying a death.

You're also losing Primordial Drake, but the gain seems to be better overall, and there do exist board states where Primordial Drake isn't really that good of a card for you.

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The sad part is that even with both bundles you're nowhere near a complete set. 

 I'm sitting on 7k gold and 20k dust, speak for yourself.

I will buy the standard bundle, the mega bundle, the adventure bundle, and also this first week special bundle all as soon as I get paid in April/when the others are released.

I'm kind of a whale.

It is worth mentioning- a lot of this aggro stuff and stuff that makes giant freaking boards is going away after rotation.

I'm not saying it's going to go away so much to accommodate Nomi, but I AM saying it's a reason I have my eye on Mecha'thun Warrior, so...

" Me too. But no, just another yawnful clickbait."

Where's the clickbait? It's a truthful statement. Nothing more and nothing less.

"Title : Brawls were lately very/surprisingly fun
Thread : Standard meta is stale"

Yeah uh, you didn't read, did you? I very specifically criticized Standard in the very title.

I know it's a dead horse to talk about how stale and unfun Standard is right now, but hey, it doesn't make it any less true.

That's what happens when you have a bunch of stuff that's really, REALLY ready to be shipped off to Wild where the rest of the broken assholes can play. And we've been over them all already, so I won't bore you all with a recap.

I'll just say I'm looking forward to a metagame that doesn't decide games so early and leave it at that, and that April 9th can't come quickly enough.

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Ooof... Been a while since I said "Mage just got a powerful good legendary card!"

 You must not have been here for Rastakhan, then.

...Or Boomsday, for that matter.

Anyway, here's the dealio. The neutral Dragon package from Rastakhan is already very powerful. And now they print an extremely powerful card for mage that happens to be a dragon.

This is very much worth looking into. Although my concern is you can roll some very bad options for the battlecry for your first free spell.

Making Fatigue decks work is my life's work.

I'd love to see what uses pop up for ol' Nomi.

Jade Druid is fun in this mode.

I'm not necessarily saying it's good.

But it's fun.

I can literally only play the game on my Phone when it comes to serious business like Arena or when I make serious efforts to climb. Both my desktop and my laptop have issues with the game freezing.

No such issues on the phone. I can be 100% certain I will remain connected so long as I stay put.

The deckbuilder on mobile is certainly another story, great chore to use compared to PC... but I don't really know how you'd improve it. At the end of the day it's just much easier to make a decent interface for the PC than it is mobile, so obviously you're going to have to make some sacrifices.

The Poisonous and Lifesteal feel a bit out of place, but I do really like the idea of an anti-oozable weapon.