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Firstly Priest being the "worst" doesn't mean that priest is bad, and it's not. Secondly Priest being worse is because of the current meta, which could change with BRM. If it slows down, it'll be strong again. I am looking at the class cards, and undoubtedly Paladin received the best class card for dragon synergy. Warlock isn't much of Dragon Deck, it's buff came in the form of demons so I am unsure why you mention them. Priest little baby dragon perhaps isn't that great but it's not bad either, and really pretty decent in a dragon deck. Also resurrect is very strong in a dragon deck since dragons will be mid range to late game and beefy.
The problem here is you are making no real argument, simply pointing to things and going "SEE IT'S BAD" with providing no argument or data as to why. Worst of all you assume nothing will change in the meta, which it may not but it's unlikely that that will be the case.
So lets examine why priest is bad right now. Straight up, it doesn't have good aggro options, this is mainly due to it's hero power not supported that deck type. Though that isn't the only reason. It's control, while good in slower games where you can get the cards you need, is not so good in a meta where you are potentially dead by turn 6. Their control is strong, but is combo based.
How does BRM address this? The cards that are introduced here are slower in general but also very good. This could potentially slow down the meta, allowing priest to perhaps crawl up the totem pole a bit, if not a lot. In addition Thaurissian is a very large boost to combo decks, the priests life blood. The card Resurrect strengthens the priest temp/ mid range game that fell off the map after GvG release, allowing for the priest, hopefully, have some other deck type than combo control.
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A Mech Mage defender!? A rare bird indeed! All kidding aside I agree mostly, though I don't find either mech marge or face hunter as difficult to deal with as the slower decks. I prefer mid range myself.
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I would say it is yes. The deck isn't so overwhelming that it's unbeatable, far from it. In reality because it's a thing people are forced to come up with counters and then things will shift. It's will be detrimental when it becomes the only thing to play. Right now I am liking Grim Patron a lot vs Face Hunter.
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Stating what you used to get to legend as an indicator of what the meta is the very definition of anecdotal evidence. I was really trying to be civil, I wasn't laughing at you, just laughing at the irony. Also I never claimed that the meta has changed, just that it has the potential to do so with BRM. Next you continue to claim grim patron is not consistent and simply want everyone to take you at your word. At the very least I have offered some evidence (and so has another) to the contrary anecdotal as it may be.
The only thing here I am trying to do is have a discussion but it's a little difficult to do that if "I make a statement and it's fact period" is part of the way we discuss things.
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LOL you slam anecdotal evidence (appropriately I might say) then use it. I understand mill rogue existed before, that wasn't the discussion so I don't understand why you bring that up at all. The point was that it's very strong right now BECAUSE of BRM, which isn't an assumption, it's true. Also Grim Patron decks don't seem inconsistent to me, where are you pulling your numbers from on this. Again for me personally I have found it to be very effective and consistent. In truth I find it more consistent than face hunter which was universally hated for it's brain dead success rate.
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Well let me clarify, I am not taking a stance directly opposed to yours. Simply what I am saying is there is a good chance they won't be bad after everything settles. Also what about priest makes you say they aren't a dragon class exactly? Priest are only bad right now because they aren't fast enough, but if the meta slows down they will easily make their way back into power on their own merits alone.
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Well I suppose all I have is my anecdotal evidence, but I haven't lost to aggro in a long time, due in no small part to Thaurissian and Resurrect. Again, will likely have to wait till the meta settles to be sure. Grim Patron and Mill Rogue are quite good, at least for now. Both are combo dependent and both are spawned from BRM.
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I think Priest is already a lot less bad right now.
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I don't foresee a tremendous change no. Face Hunter will still be effective and will likely blow up anyone who had a bad draw/mulligan. However mid range and control/combo decks have received a very large buff with this adventure and will be able to easily compete with zerg style decks now I think.
Face Hunter I think is particularly hurt right now because of "abuse" of Grim Patron decks. They all run the splody ghoul, that thing really slows down face hunter.
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As I said in my earlier post there are plenty of solid mid range decks that don't rely on doing 20 plus damage in a turn. And to boot they have some really cool synergies and mechanics. My favorite is the resurrect priest. Honestly though we won't know for sure what is going to be dominant until the meta settle again after the last wing is released. I am calling Dragon Paladin to be very strong Mid to Strong Late game deck and really start dominating heavily.
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Not going to lie, sounds to me like you hate the basic RNG and strategy of a LOT of card games in general. Not much to do at this point. There are plenty of good decks that don't look for the OTK or super zerg. Tempo mage for instance is really strong right now. The resurrect priest is also very effective in my opinion as well. Those decks "slug it out" more than others with constant damage and trades. But yeah Zerg and OTK are what a lot of decks across the spectrum of all TCGs do.
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Eh I have to disagree here, volcanic drake and his card draw will only be relevant if his whelps live beyond the turn they come out which isn't likely. Not to mention he has other cards that assist him with that in mustard not to mention the hero power. Between the consort and the ease in which a paladin can kill creatures on the board (weenie trades) he should already be able to easily get discounted Volcanic Drakes and Solemn Vigils. Ysera is simply a better in enough ways to easily be better than Onyxia. Not BGHable, dodges priest removal, and has a huge body, and honestly the ysera cards are really strong. Sure they don't all make some huge board swing, but neither does Onyxia and she has way more negative points.
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Hard to judge since not all the cards are out. Even then it's not a fair comparison as they purposely put less neutral cards in this adventure to help differentiate decks a bit. After Naxx you saw a TON of the same neutral cards because they were so good. Apparently they did like that. Personally I am more excited to see how things shake up after thing is released.
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I have neither mukla or king krush :(
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My pants feel tight.