I love the design and flavor but it looks so mediocre. And it straight up dies to a 3/2 with nothing to show for it.
That being said, against ping classes it's a more powerful tidehunter, and it sets up for a very good flametongue turn, so I don't know. It's difficult to say, since we haven't really seen a spawning type minion at this low cost, what with moroes and imp master costing 3. I think it's worth messing around with at least.
This really doesn't need to go into a murloc deck to work.
You'll have a decent chance of fin-ishing the quest with the water package and call in the finishers. Possibly some experimentation with tidehunter and the new discover murloc. I could absolutely see this going into a new mid-range type deck, akin to dragon decks that simply run the bare minimum dragons to get the synergy going. Just save megafin for when you run out of steam and viola!
Also of note, there's still a 2 mana 2/3 murloc we haven't seen yet, if the intro video is anything to go on.
@Hearthpwn, perhaps you could list out the cards from the old sets that are getting changed into elementals? Doesn't have to be in card form, just a list, would be helpful to be able to compare everything on one page though, especially with how the elemental mechanic is going to work.
It's not just that the alakir combo is more expensive and can't double dip, it's that rockbiter, at this cost, may not even be worth running in decks that would run alakir. It's difficult to say, but this being 2 mana makes it absolutely terrible as far as removal goes. This change is way more impactful than it looks than it looks.
I'd have much rather they touched on doomhammer. They mention the versatility of rockbiter, including burst, but the primary burst that they're talking about is because of doomhammer, not rockbiter.
They even mention it being one of the most widely used cards in shaman history, but... well... fireball? PW:S? PO? Those are of a similar nature, are they not?
Er, I mean... bwaaa? (Whatever sound a totem makes)
I never commented a lot on the shaman forums, but I very much enjoyed the discussions, even post- Old Gods. Looking forward to seeing this place brighten up a bit :)
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I'm leary of calling this busted after Fire Plume Harbinger, but this has some really good combo potential. Looking forward to trying it out!
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I love the design and flavor but it looks so mediocre. And it straight up dies to a 3/2 with nothing to show for it.
That being said, against ping classes it's a more powerful tidehunter, and it sets up for a very good flametongue turn, so I don't know. It's difficult to say, since we haven't really seen a spawning type minion at this low cost, what with moroes and imp master costing 3. I think it's worth messing around with at least.
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Weasel Tunneler is going to have a hayday.
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This really doesn't need to go into a murloc deck to work.
You'll have a decent chance of fin-ishing the quest with the water package and call in the finishers. Possibly some experimentation with tidehunter and the new discover murloc. I could absolutely see this going into a new mid-range type deck, akin to dragon decks that simply run the bare minimum dragons to get the synergy going. Just save megafin for when you run out of steam and viola!
Also of note, there's still a 2 mana 2/3 murloc we haven't seen yet, if the intro video is anything to go on.
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@Hearthpwn, perhaps you could list out the cards from the old sets that are getting changed into elementals? Doesn't have to be in card form, just a list, would be helpful to be able to compare everything on one page though, especially with how the elemental mechanic is going to work.
This page is fantastic btw.
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Of note, this is the first deathrattle minion for shaman to get. Ever.
THANK YOU BLIZZARD!
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Al'Akir definitely takes a hit with this.
It's not just that the alakir combo is more expensive and can't double dip, it's that rockbiter, at this cost, may not even be worth running in decks that would run alakir. It's difficult to say, but this being 2 mana makes it absolutely terrible as far as removal goes. This change is way more impactful than it looks than it looks.
I'd have much rather they touched on doomhammer. They mention the versatility of rockbiter, including burst, but the primary burst that they're talking about is because of doomhammer, not rockbiter.
They even mention it being one of the most widely used cards in shaman history, but... well... fireball? PW:S? PO? Those are of a similar nature, are they not?
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Reporting for duty!
Er, I mean... bwaaa? (Whatever sound a totem makes)
I never commented a lot on the shaman forums, but I very much enjoyed the discussions, even post- Old Gods. Looking forward to seeing this place brighten up a bit :)
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Holy smokes, that's a waaaaay better idea.
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Not necessarily viable, but fun:
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Double equality consecrate with a doomsayer thrown in seemed to handle tempo mage nicely. Yes, please, play both of your flamewakers. :)
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The great thing here is that I haven't seen a completely unbeatable combo: even against Ice Block + fireball, there is kezan mystic + healing wave.
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ALright, prep + beneath the grounds was hilarious
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