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    Dec 16, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on Card Text Length
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    Zero, there's no need for condescention, we're just trying to get on the same page. "Complex" can and is frequently used negatively and "Complicated" can and is frequently used positively, so that's why it's important to clarify in this context. You're using "complex" specifically to indicate contribution to depth and "complicated" specifically to mean difficult to understand. That's not necessarily how everybody would use them, and they're also not mutually exclusive in that context.

     I'm not condescenting, atleast not on purpose. If i appeared rude to you in my response then i apologize, it was not my meaning to do so.
    Anyways, you are correct with what you're saying and i was not clarifying anything at all in my first comment, which was obviously a mistake. When nurgling13 first responded to me, i explained to him my connotations by using positive and negative words in my first response to him.
    I know not everyone uses these words like i am in my comments, but as said i later specified how i was using them in my first response to nurgling13. You can even change the words complex and complicated around in my comments and what i'm trying to say remains the same. It's not about the words i'm using don't cling on tgem, it's about the meaning that i'm giving them solely for my comments context.
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    Under "Synonyms for complex", it's literally the first entry. And your connotations are not universal. Both words can carry negative connotations. Complex isn't 'good' and complicated isn't 'bad'. There is some truth to this in that complicated has a worse connotation, but you are wrong to be berating people for not agreeing that complexity is obviously 'good' while complicated is obviously 'bad'. Complexity can carry a negative association when juxtaposed with simplicity, for example.
     Well, i already responded to this synonym stuff just above your comment sooo i don't know why you too bother with this.
     Because I don't stand for it when someone tells me I'm wrong and the facts are clearly behind me. When you tell me complex and complicated aren't synonyms, I'm going to respond with proof that they are. Plus, in your other responses, you still said they aren't synonyms. The link I provided proves they are, and you should stop telling people they aren't. You don't get to redefine synonym. Synonyms can have different connotations.
    Plus, your claim that 'complex' has an obviously good connotation is wrong.
     I already explained that they are synonyms on paper, but i don't call them as such in my comments context, because they don't mean the same in it. I wasn't "redefining" synonyms meaning, i was just trying to say to you that i was using them to tell that people think everything a little complex is automatically overly so.
    Also, in my comment i literally used the word good so it is obviously a positive word in my comment. It's not always positive, just in my comment. I never said the connotations i used are universal and i made it clear what connotations i was using with those words in my first response to you.
    And even if you're angry to me about something i don't think it's necessary for many people to respond when they aren't adding anything new to what someone else said in general, but especially when i already addressed previously what was being discussed it's just unnecessary.
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    Dec 16, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on Card Text Length
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    Under "Synonyms for complex", it's literally the first entry. And your connotations are not universal. Both words can carry negative connotations. Complex isn't 'good' and complicated isn't 'bad'. There is some truth to this in that complicated has a worse connotation, but you are wrong to be berating people for not agreeing that complexity is obviously 'good' while complicated is obviously 'bad'. Complexity can carry a negative association when juxtaposed with simplicity, for example.
     Well, i already responded to this synonym stuff just above your comment sooo i don't know why you too bother with this.
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    Dec 16, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on Card Text Length
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     People also mistake complexity for being overly complicated.
     Because it is?
     No it's not. Complexity is a good thing that adds depth, over complicated would be that it's too hard to understand.
    It seems like you're adding your own connotations to these words and expecting everyone to know them. "Complex" and "complicated" are synonyms.
     It seems you fail to understand that it's not my own connotation. They're not synonyms.
    To say that words are synonyms is not to say that they are 100% interchangeable in all contexts. There are very few synonym pairs that don't have some subtle contextual or connotative difference. The question is, what do you perceive the difference to be in this context? Do you mean like how an effect could be simply, straightforwardly worded but have deep, complex implications while another effect may be wordier to describe but function straightforwardly in execution? Or do you just mean a judgement call connotation where "complex" and"complicated" are simply positive and negative tones respectively? You'll have to be more specific.
     Well basically i mean both and i can't really understand how it's not clear immediately, after all how can you ever perceive "Complexity is a good thing that adds depth" as anything but something with a positive tone and "it's too hard to understand" as having anything but a negative one.
    The first part of your comment is true, but i wouldn't call words synonyms if they have different meanings in the current context like they do. It's a different thing to say two words have the same meaning on paper when they don't have a given context.
    Also i don't understand the point you are trying to make in the latter part. It's not my fault if someone can't even see that i'm literally positively describing complexity (good = surprise surprise is a positive word) and negatively describing complicated (hard to understand = obviously negative). Everyone should know good and depth are positive things etc unless they're a 2-year old or something.
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    Dec 16, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on Card Text Length
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     People also mistake complexity for being overly complicated.
     Because it is?
     No it's not. Complexity is a good thing that adds depth, over complicated would be that it's too hard to understand.
    It seems like you're adding your own connotations to these words and expecting everyone to know them. "Complex" and "complicated" are synonyms.
     It seems you fail to understand that it's not my own connotation. They're not synonyms.
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    Dec 16, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on Matt Place on the Power and Iterations of Patches the Pirate + Gadgetzan Card Development

    Isn't this like atleast the third news post where this exact same thing (how Patches was created) is discussed. How fucking many do we need? Some things not previously mentioned are here, but still.

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    Dec 16, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on Card Text Length
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     People also mistake complexity for being overly complicated.
     Because it is?
     No it's not. Complexity is a good thing that adds depth, over complicated would be that it's too hard to understand.
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    Dec 15, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on Card Text Length
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    or they mistake complexity for creativity or innovation.

     People also mistake complexity for being overly complicated.
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    Dec 15, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on Fastest lethals in HS? Turn 3 Rogue vs Pirate Warrior!

    With Millhouse Manastorm i believe it is possible to have a first turn kill if a druid Innervates it out on turn one.

    Also it's probably possible as well if a druid Innervates Dirty Rat on the first turn and pulls out like a Malygos.

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    Dec 14, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on Veteran Design Duel #2

    1.

    Underprotected Cub first of all has a little awkward naming imo. Also, i think it's shit. Why would run this over the existing Hunter 1 drops.

    Quick Deploy Engineer is first of all also thrash. You need to deal damage to your opponent twice for it to be even a Pit Fighter and what would a face hunter do with a 5 mana card anyway. Also the art doesn't seem suitable for a hunter card.

    2.

    Mounted Tallstrider seems pretty slow for a hunter card. Love the flavor though.

    Forest Scout is a cool little card draw for hunter, but i don't wanna see face hunters running around with reverse Life Taps.

    I vote for 2 because the 1st entry cards were very weak imo

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    Dec 14, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on New Comer Design Duel #3

    I will vote for Ambush Master. Asylum_Rhapsody pretty much described why already mostly, but i will add to it that in order for Ambush Master to do that Conceal combo of drawing a ton of cards, you first of all need a large enough board so board controlling will destroy this combo and you need your opponent not to have a boardclear if you do manage to get enough minions.

    You also have to remember that it's a 2 card combo, so on top of that you need to draw both in order to do it, which automatically balances it a lot. Overall i don't even think it's that much better of a combo than Preparation + Sprint is. With four mana and 2 cards you get 4 cards without needing any previous setup.

    Conceal + Ambush Master is unreliable, relying on not only drawing them both, but also having enough other minions and on your opponent not being able to get rid of said minions.

    Shadowblade has a design flaw so yeah, without a guestion i'm going for Ambush Master, which is also a much more creative card.

    TL;DR Ambush Master is not broken.

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    Dec 14, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on New-Comer Design Duel #2
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    seems like a close one (how many votes for each?), congrats! (and don't forget to upload to imgur when you participate in card design competitions! :P)

     13-10, one of the closest matches yet I believe.
     I think the only closer one i remember is Veteran Design Duel #1, pretty sure that was like 52%-48%
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    Dec 14, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on Goon Buffing C'thun doesn't count towards Vek'lor effects?
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    So it's not even an issue of only cultist minion buffs getting put toward C'Thun, they just totally blanked on programming the Goon effects onto C'Thun's total attack count? That's damn wacky.

     Yeah, i'm sure i would've noticed if the counter on the side said the wrong amount of attack and health for C'Thun.
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    Dec 14, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on Goon Buffing C'thun doesn't count towards Vek'lor effects?

    That's weird. I've run Mistcaller in a C'thun deck for ages and haven't noticed this.

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    Dec 14, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on SeatStory Cup VI Starts Tomorrow!

    Lmao wifecoach has the best name ever.

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    Dec 14, 2016
    ZeroAndKira posted a message on Kodorider

    Quite good with the new Raza the Chained actually.

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