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Quote from kizlyar >>

The Reno rotation can't happen soon enough. Look at this meta. It's insufferable. Good riddance.  Reno deserves to be in wild given how cancerous it's become.

PS - The OP can go straight to h*ll. Such a original thought, keep Reno around. You make me sick. Anyone who defends Reno now is mentally unstable. Midrange decks are dead and it's all Reno or all aggro.  Believe it or not, midrange usually outclasses aggro and aggro wouldn't be a problem except that Reno combined with Kazakus is OP as fook.

 

 

Congratulations on making Legend.  It is an accomplishment.  I haven't posted this in a while but it is applicable...also, haven't updated the information but I believe most if not all of it still applies:

Z's Legend Grind Advice  (Haven't posted this in a while)
 - Pick a deck that has been proven can make it to Legend and stick with it.
 - Track your wins/losses against popular decks (ex. split Zoo & Handlock, Mechmage & Freeze Mage) this will allow you to not get discouraged and worry if you have a tough time against a particular deck you will know it.
 - Watch a popular streamer that uses your deck and mirrors your play style.
 - If you feel you need to change your deck to match a new rank meta only change two cards at most at a time.  To many changes can drastically alter your effectiveness and win percentages.
 - Realize that RNG giveth and taketh away.  
 - Work on what cards your opponent could have to derail your plan.  Try to think your moves out at least one extra turn ahead of where you are at.
 - Have fun!  Enjoy the journey.  This is a game and getting mad or frustrated doesn't do anything for anybody.
 - Watch your win percentage and realize how many more games it will take to reach legend.  Prepare for the grind and it won't grind you up!

Hopefully this helps some people.  See you all in the tavern.

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Dragon OP strikes again.  Steals a Brann, plays another Operative off of that, and obtains two eviscerate to get lethal.  Lulz.  I've been tracking it, and 6 out of the last 7 have had a huge impact on the game...some winning it straight up. 

 I too am tracking it and it's not as "game winning" as you think.  

 Right..because the example above and the two lightlords it took in one game isn't OP.  So the last 4 plays, it's netted a Brann, two lightlords and two eviscerates.  That's just two games..both of which beat me when I had lethal next turn.  Yea..not game changing at all.  The other three stole a Syl, swipe and forbidden healing.  So...7 plays, 4 legendaries and three removal and one major healing.  I get priests have been shit on, but having two of this card is ridiculous.  A lot of games when I play priest I play three, because netherspite discovers one.    

 

 oh wait, TWO games?  Jesus fuck, you weren't kidding, this card is broken! /s

Not saying it isn't strong; I'm saying it doesn't outright win you the game when played and doesn't restrict future card design, which historically are two main factors for Blizzard nerfs. 

 

edit: Since I started tracking, I've played 17 games of Dragon Priest.  6 of those DrakOP wasn't even played.  Of the remaining 11, 4 gave me cards which allowed for lethal, only 1 of those 4 was what I would consider "broken" (discovering three White Eyes lol).  The remaining 7, I either didn't get to play the cards I discovered or they were meaningless to the outcome of the game.  So 1 in 17 games gave me something that was completely broken.  

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Quote from Zealot1906 >>

 Blizzard would not need as many servers if the game had less players.  F2P players contribute to the culture of the game but do not support Blizzard or help create a profitable product that will continue to be supported.  Once again, all I am saying is if someone doesn't like the game then don't play it.  

 I'm no economic expert but you are the first one to claim that having less success and less players is a benefit. Companies must be stupid then when they try and gather as many people as possible to play their game (yes even f2p games do that). I agree on the part that if you don't like the game you should just quit. I disagree that you can't voice your opinion on something that can see improvements, only because that player may be f2p (hence his opinion being less valid - which is a stupid argument btw).

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Quote from Zealot1906 >>

 Actually Blizzard does not owe F2P players anything.  Robust marketing moved the needle on this game (as well as the devoted fan base Blizzard has built up from releasing quality products).  People that play but don't contribute to the game/company aren't owed anything.  Hearthstone does not have an advertising income model (no adds on the side of the game while playing, etc.).  

I don't have any issue with F2P but do have an issue when those players (or really any players for that matter) that pronounce that they are owed something.  If you don't like the game, don't play it!  If you are upset about the current meta, stop playing for a while and come back to see if it has changed.  IMO the meta is very diverse right now and a large part of the community are playing with the new cards.  Established decks (aggro shaman, dragon warrior, etc.) are strong because they have been refined and people know how to play them.

 Your major mistake is thinking that f2p don't contribute to the game. You are wrong, they do. Not with the money, but by filling the server and keeping things fresh for paying players. If the servers are half empty the game don't survive for long.

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Quote from Zealot1906 >>

"im f2p and i need to farm gold"

So you are complaining about a game that you have not spent any money on and then complain that the game does not have features that you find necessary?  Interesting.  Why do you feel that Blizzard owes you anything?  

Also, Aggro Shaman is far from the only "f2p" deck at the moment.  If you play on a regular basis you should gain at least 400 gold per week not to mention all the dust from brawls and the month end bonuses.  If you are new to the game then you will have to grind to "catch up" to people that have been in the game longer or spend some money on it.

 For your information Blizzard owes f2p players a lot since it's thanks to them that the game is what it is today.

Quote from AntonAmby >>

I like the meta that we have at the moment, almost all classes are viable to get legend with. Yea we still have aggro shammy being annoying - but it's not that bad, still beatable.
Also as a f2p you shouldn't farm gold in casual by winning a lot of games, you should do your quest's and then play arena....  :)   
(I'm f2p and i never played aggro shammy)

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"im f2p and i need to farm gold"

So you are complaining about a game that you have not spent any money on and then complain that the game does not have features that you find necessary?  Interesting.  Why do you feel that Blizzard owes you anything? 

as one of those who paid quite a bit I can tell you that I have same amount of respect to f2p as to paying customers. F2p are paying too, they pay with time spent in game, which is then converted into healthy base of players for us, paying ones. We both have the same value (that is where the number of ten of millions of players is coming from and is super important for Blizz corp.), even if Blizz would sure preffer some bucks from them too.

F2p are good to express their opinion/ feedback just as anyone else. It is Blizzard who sets this state, not you, mate.

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"im f2p and i need to farm gold"

So you are complaining about a game that you have not spent any money on and then complain that the game does not have features that you find necessary?  Interesting.  Why do you feel that Blizzard owes you anything?  

Also, Aggro Shaman is far from the only "f2p" deck at the moment.  If you play on a regular basis you should gain at least 400 gold per week not to mention all the dust from brawls and the month end bonuses.  If you are new to the game then you will have to grind to "catch up" to people that have been in the game longer or spend some money on it.

 no you didnt get my point i am f2p but i can make any deck i want since i play for 3 years..... although from the amount of time ive put into this game f2p sucks cause yes i have all the playable cards but i dont have a "collection".also f2p means i cant click the shop wherever i want and buy 150 packs i have to grind every single day. try griding with a deck that is clunky and see how it feels.

also i was mostly talking about the general pathetic state of the game in general. where are the good taunts? where are the good defense mechanics? all i see now are decks with strong curves. tell me one deck that plays a taunt? it is tempo and face logic everywhere. tell me how can a shaman player who floods the board get punished? equality concecration? control decks are unhealthy too. heropower for the first 4 turns..... is that what you call a healthy metagame?

i didnt say blizzard owes me anything, i just said they should make the game a bit more balanced for everyone to enjoy.

"im f2p and i need to farm gold"

So you are complaining about a game that you have not spent any money on and then complain that the game does not have features that you find necessary?  Interesting.  Why do you feel that Blizzard owes you anything?  

Also, Aggro Shaman is far from the only "f2p" deck at the moment.  If you play on a regular basis you should gain at least 400 gold per week not to mention all the dust from brawls and the month end bonuses.  If you are new to the game then you will have to grind to "catch up" to people that have been in the game longer or spend some money on it.

"Why can I not dominate a game that I have spent no money on when playing people that have actually helped fund the game?  Freaking greedy Blizzard!"
- TC

Blizzard disagrees with you.

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because throwing money fixes everything.....

Quote from rudeteenager >>

Duhh, launch day. Every time we launch our servers go down. duhh, should we fiix servers? no. me stupid blizzard sys op team. me bang rock on pee pee. servers down again. uh oh. *shits self* duhh. what we do? i dunno what should we do? put up playful sprites message that is so funnie. lol. lol. duhhh *pisses all over own leg* 

If you are going to go for legend...enjoy:

Z's Legend Grind Advice  (Haven't posted this in a while)
 - Pick a deck that has been proven can make it to Legend and stick with it.
 - Track your wins/losses against popular decks (ex. split Zoo & Handlock, Mechmage & Freeze Mage) this will allow you to not get discouraged and worry if you have a tough time against a particular deck you will know it.
 - Watch a popular streamer that uses your deck and mirrors your play style.
 - If you feel you need to change your deck to match a new rank meta only change two cards at most at a time.  To many changes can drastically alter your effectiveness and win percentages.
 - Realize that RNG giveth and taketh away.  
 - Work on what cards your opponent could have to derail your plan.  Try to think your moves out at least one extra turn ahead of where you are at.
 - Have fun!  Enjoy the journey.  This is a game and getting mad or frustrated doesn't do anything for anybody.
 - Watch your win percentage and realize how many more games it will take to reach legend.  Prepare for the grind and it won't grind you up!

Hopefully this helps some people.  See you all in the tavern.