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I know it's not exactly a fan creations. However, it is related to creating cards since the lore is important. I thought it would be a great idea to make a thread that way I can direct or answer any and all questions you creators might have about lore and getting your wonderful ideas to fit into the World of Azeroth. Azeroth is expansive, extremely so and there's a lot of lesser known tibdits or nuggets that I know of that might make your card a reality to fit into Hearthstone. It's an epic Fantasy with a healthy dose of Sci-Fi. I can most certainly set you on the path towards something you're interested in.

I know Hearthstone has dropped 'Heroes of Warcraft', but it's still all about Warcraft lore for the most part, everything is based in it, even if they do get a little wild at times. So I figured I'd throw this thread up in Fan-Creations, since you are the guys who would be using it. I hope that's alright. So. Whether you're new to the lore or some-what knowledgeable, if you have a question  I can answer it!

Please feel free to drop by and ask any question related to warcraft or fitting something into Warcraft, etc. I will answer everything that get's posted here. <3 Fair warning, there's a lot of cool stuff in Azeroth and beyond, I can't say you won't get a bit hooked into it once you dive in.

Also, WoWpedia is a great source to finding most things on lore, do note though it isn't perfect and It can't really help if you don't have a staring point. Other good sources would be NObbel's channel on Youtube. Nobbel87. He covers a wide variety of topics by talking about them.

Or you can just ask me. I'll be here!

Edit: It would be wise to search the thread for keywords using the function in the top right hand corner to see if your question has already been asked and find your answer. 

Oh dear. Sorry guys I've been incredibly sick but it's really nice Argentium is here to help out as well. Much love my man. <3 Yeah, Varian Wrynn is one of the most lore rich characters although the expansion he came in never really jived with me. Varian deserves another take some-day, much like Deathwing in my opinion. 

This thread hasn't had a post in a few months, I hope people haven't forgotten about it. I definitely haven't although I've not been posting much lately I have been checking each day as I said I would! I thought I could use this time to talk about my favorite space mercenaries, The Ethereals. Due to all the speculation of it being a potential future race to play in WoW, there's been a lot of buzz about them lately.

The Ethereals weren't always incorporeal masses of energy loosely held together by bandages. They were once one of many sentient races on the planet of K'aresh, a planet with an arid ecosystem. The Ethereals aren't quite sure how Dimensius the All-Devouring were drawn to their planet upon that fateful day. Many years ago a void lord, named Dimensius the All-Devouring, began to envelop their planet in twisted arcane energies by opening numerous portals to the void, surrounding the planet and slowly enveloping it into the Twisting Nether. 

The Ethereals panicked and used all their advanced technology to try and shield themselves from the creature. However their attempt was only partly successful. The immense arcane power stripped their bodies down in a powerful blast only leaving a mass of energy able to take form that was their soul, barely hanging on as it was. They used enhanced strips of cloth to bind their souls to and help keep them stable. The altered state, although a shock, was a bit of a blessing because it gave them enhanced magical power, leading them to be able to hold off the Void Lord for some time at a stand still. However, such a thing did not last forever.

Over the years Dimensius grew stronger and stronger and all the time he was boding, waiting to open the floodgates with his massive army. He succeeded in eventually overrunning the planet and destroying it, forcing the inhabitants to leave in desperation into the twisting nether. The Ethereum, sinister group of ethereals swore vengeance against the creature as the delved into darker and darker practices. They were ruled by a group of Nexus Princes, one of whom formed the Protectorate the main body force of the group. Another formed the Consortium a group more akin to space pirates that were smugglers, thieves, and traders. 

There is another group known as the NExus-Stalkers, a malevolent group of Ethereals fused with the void. The Other ethereals do not approve and essentially exiled them. It was thought at first their goal was simply revenge but later it turned out their true goals were to become pure void energy. 

They are largely a neutral race, mostly working for their own interests whether it being profit or otherwise. HOwever the Consortium eventually allied with the Sha'tar, a faction of draenei under the command of the Naaru A'dal. Their political system is similar to that of Goblins where a head person rules, in this case a Nexus Prince. They are also quite greedy, seeking anything that will further their profits. They are a technologically advanced race capable of creating eco-domes and other technical feats. They also are unique in knowing Technomancy, a form of magic that is able to 'transmogrify' gear in World of Warcraft. Transmogrification is making a piece of armor look like something else. Mostly a commodity. 

They do not need to eat, drink, or even sleep. 

Great for wild mill rogue decks.

Pretty much what Argentum said. Mechs are really just machines that are built by the races of azeroth. Of course Goblins and Gnomes seem to excel at producing and using machinery, However so do Draenei, Dwarves, and Blood elves with their own aesthetics and such thrown into it. Those races seem to be the most mechanically inclined.

A lot of good advice here. As someone whose never won a card competition but have had cards get a fair amount of votes, Let me offer one more piece of advice.

If something you post gets not a lot of traction ask yourself why. You need to do this to improve upon your own creation skill set and this goes beyond just creating hearthstone cards but creating anything really. You may just need to scrap the idea entirely. I find myself sometimes getting to focused on an idea or mindset that I'm blinded from seeing the faults and forcing a square peg into a round hole, it's just never going to work.

It's also important to note that while some might not be terrible cards, people also frequently only vote on their favorites so even if it's something good or decent it might not be the top tier quality cards that everyone else is clamoring over, and that's okay too. Just accept your idea isn't as liked as theirs and move on.

I find most my best and well liked cards generally follows @sD2hn2a's advice they laid out for you. Cards like Careless  Archeologist which received a fair amount of votes.

I've never seen a topic like this around here before and I thought it would be something interesting to ask. I was wondering, what is your personal number one favorite card you ever designed? It can be for a variety of reasons, either because it was a great card or it's a silly card that made you laugh. Please share this card and your reasoning below.

Personally, I like Thought Retention a lot. A card I had designed for the Spellbreaker in Class Competition 3. It was a card with a lot of variance and thought behind it, requiring your opponent to play around it. They had to be in fear of giving you a great card, making card order that much more important. Simple, but incredibly effective. There were a few close runner-ups but I'm sticking with this as my favorite card I have come up with in my time of creating fan-made cards. 

I think the Versatile cards that can be used in a variety of situations are the best designed ones. Cards like Wild Pyromancer.

I don't' know why people act like you need to not include any three cost cards. If you must use Hemet, then go ahead but I see this as a late-game combo card. I voted meta defining. I don't have anything off the top of my head but I know somewhere out there is the ultimate cheesy combo because this is only 3 mana, that leaves a lot to play with.

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I'd prefer a default format for everyone to fit their cards in, if I'm being honest.

 You'll be pleased to know we're implementing a standard format for entries in Phase II. It has come up before that we've been somewhat relaxed with the 'presentation' rulings, and that some people do potentially benefit from just being able to produce more visually appealing submissions.

Hopefully the template we give will still allow people to get across everything they want to, while leveling the playing field in regards to submission quality. We're also totally open to suggestions and questions in regards to the standard format, so if competitors don't like some aspect of it they can bring that up.

The Bug

Let me introduce you to The Bug class. The Bug is... well, a bug. But do not underestimate it ! It is able to trade some small minions with Hero Power, defend with various taunt minions and easily swarm the board. Oh, and don’t forget about weapons, the easiest activators for…

The Bug introduces a new keyword called Fury, which activates whenever your hero kills a minion (I told you weapons are useful) . This effect can trigger multiple times, thus giving your hero attack is something common for The Bug.

EXAMPLE CARDS

EXPLANATION

Armored Baldur – This minion represents one of the core mechanics of The Bug – exchanging Armor for other benefits. This is one of the main archetypes for this class. In this example, if you have 5 Armor (which is important – otherwise card will not work) you can play this and exchange your 5 Armor points for a 5/5 minion. You should be careful when you play cards with this mechanic, because sometimes that Armor could be more beneficial than a 5/5 minion.

Ice Crawler – The Bug uses Taunt minions to protect itself from taking more damage after using hero power or attacking with weapons multiple times. This minion has better stats than a normal 4-drop, but the drawback is having your hero Frozen for a turn. It may not look like something painful, but remember, that The Bug bases on attacking with your hero, so this drawback can turn out to be more impactful than you may think.

Protective Weevil – Because The Bug has a lot of Armor synergy, there have to be some cards that generate Armor. This minion is small, but every turn it stays alive it gives you 2 Armor points. Protective Weevil can be used both in the Armor-oriented deck (more control) and in the aggressive or midrange deck. One of the most reliable 2-drops for The Bug, because it fits in to the various decks.

Dream Nail - One of the archetypes avaible fot The Bug is an aggro deck. This weapon suits there well, because you can resummon up to 4 minions that died this game - this means you have some control of what are you summoning. Dream Nail features Fury keyword, so you kill an enemy minion and get one of yours back. Despite having low attack, it can be buffed with various weapon buffs, you can also use your hero power to boost your attack for a turn. Therefore activating Fury should not be something difficult.

Hive Knight Tiso – As I said, The Bug has ability to quickly summon many minions. This is one of the very few cards that have AoE effect, because this class is not good at clearing the board with 1 – 2 cards. This example benefits from having larger board, as Hive Knight Tiso can deal up to 7 damage to all enemy minions. Remember: Hive Knight Tiso does not count for its effect, so if you have no minions on the board, Tiso will deal only 1 damage.

Additional Information:

Greetings, interlopers! For your consideration, I bring you...me, Kel'Thuzad !

The Lich

Master of the cold dark, I bring death to the living and the dead back to life! My touch can Freeze the blood in your veins, and my magic will rip the soul from your body, all to be used for...later purposes. Together, we will bring the might of the endless Scourge down upon our foes!

Strengths + Themes

• ( Freeze ) The frozen corpses of my enemies decorate the halls of Naxxramas like statues. I have room for more!
• ( Deathrattles , "if it dies" effects ) My time spent practicing necromancy has taught me much in the ways of the dead and dying. Let me show you...
• ( Reviving minions , healing , "if it survives" effects ) With power over death itself, I can bring my warriors back to life...or something close.
• ( Late-game fuel ) With each body that falls, the Scourge grows larger. The resources of the living dwindle, while ours return manifold!

Weaknesses Rumored Shortcomings

• ( Slow archetypes ) The Scourge may be endless, but putting those bodies back together is a time-consuming process. Sometimes they come to me alive first and then it becomes a whole thing. It would be tiresome if I was still alive and needed rest.
• ( Freeze doesn't kill ) Freezing people alive is always entertaining...except occasionally they thaw and resume charging. There are days where I just want them to give up and die already!
• ( Lacking card draw ) I encourage all of my underlings to recycle those dead bodies in the blue bin. That being said, it would be nice to see some new skeletons now and then...

Example Cards

• Dark Resurgence - A surge of necrotic energy will end the life of an enemy. A surge of greater power will heal a fallen warrior. It makes sense if you don't think about it...
• Unnatural Selector - After a member of the Scourge falls, we can rebuild them! We have the technology magic: they will come back stronger, faster, better than ever!
• Skeletal Frostguard - It was their idea: "we'll create a wall in front of you, and you Freeze us in place." I thought they were crazy, but turns out it's a rather effective tactic.

• Onyxia, Fallen Matriarch - With the remains of Onyxia under my control, I will create an undying army of dragons for the Scourge! Which would you rather have: a skeleton, or a skeletal dragon ?
• Baroness Anastari - A banshee's cry is said to drive their loved ones insane. While amusing, I'd rather they were driven dead. Those slain by the cry of Anastari will return to haunt the living!

Thank you for your consideration and upvotes, in bringing me into Hearthstone! " Kel'Thuzad is already in the game," you say? I have never seen that powerful and handsome card before, although "Curse of Naxxramas" sounds like a great addition to the game. An expansion, all about me; if you don't like it, I'll resurrect a body who will!

Gratz for hitting Legend !

and lol ...

" Are the ranked ladder rewards shit? " Yes & Yes :P

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Wild is saved!

 Have fun queueing into Big Priests. 

Hey guys. I found this cool site full of blizzard artwork. It has all the hearthstone card art plus thousands of other sketches, promotional images and unused concept arts from wow. If you need an image for your custom card try finding something here, as everything you see in made by blizzard.

https://wow.blizzgame.ru/gallery/?title=en

NOTE: The site originally in Russian, so there may be some miss-translations. Use the "Filter by tags" option, as there are quite literally hundreds of tags. You can search by artist too, if you know the creators.

DISCLAIMER: This is not an ad, i just thought the card creators would like some blizz-like artwork for the competitions.

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This is an extremely dangerous position to take. The problem has never really been about someone else independently coming up with the same idea; the real concern is that a "whoever submits first" rule is a direct benefit to actual thieves. I post my card in the Discussion thread looking for feedback, you steal my idea and post it more-or-less without any changes, and now there's nothing I can do about it because you submitted first. We're not defending the victim, we're encouraging the wrong-doer.

True idea-thievery is a hard thing to prove, which is why complaints about it don't often amount to anything. The plaintiff needs to bring it up in an official capacity via a report or PM'ing one of us moderators, and then we need to research the situation and determine the validity of the argument. Are the cards similar because the idea is fairly "obvious" and multiple iterations was expected? Do they look similar but don't actually function the same? Did they make the same mistakes, implying it might be a copy-paste job? There are a lot of questions that have to be answered before we ever get close to a verdict.

It's not okay for people to falsely accuse others of wrong-doing, but those that speak up are doing so because they believe they are in the right; if this is true, then something should be done about it. We frankly need people to complain if they feel they have a truly-legitimate complaint: having your idea stolen is not a situation that potential creators should have to worry about, and pulling back on our defenses could create an open season for malevolent interests.

Well, the simple solution to that is not to post your card in the Discussion thread until after you have submitted it in the Submission thread.

Perhaps this boils down to a fundamental difference in philosophy, but I'm a purist who thinks that people should come up with their own ideas and balance their own cards without any outside help at all. If your card is improved because of someone else's comment - e.g. someone else alerted you to a fatal flaw in your card which you then corrected - then you don't really deserve to win. Someone else who submitted a great card without any external help should win. And if you want to access the benefits of getting feedback on your card, then you should also bear the risk of someone else stealing your idea and/or beating you to the punch and submitting a similar idea (which is basically impossible to tell apart other than the most clumsy and blatant cases of plagiarism anyway).

In fact, I think the fundamental purpose of the Discussion thread should be re-assessed. It should be used to comment on the cards that have already been submitted in the Submission thread, and not for people to ask for feedback on potential card ideas. This might sound like too radical a change, but I think it would greatly improve the quality of the Discussion threads and should receive serious consideration. Currently it's almost exclusively filled with self-centred requests for feedback, which 99% of the community probably don't even bother reading. There is virtually no discussion of any of the cards that are in the competition (which is what one would instinctively expect a Discussion thread to be about).

Alternatively, if you really want to retain the avenue for people to get feedback on their ideas, you could create two separate discussion threads - one for people to ask for feedback, and one to actually discuss and evaluate the cards that have been submitted.

I dont agree that everyone should just make their card without an outside help, that is very patronizing and entitled mindset. Many of the participants dont have very good sense of how to create a proper card, be it balance, wording or art and such. Asking for feedback is pretty much the only way to improve. Yes, they could study the cards other ppl made, or at least the finalists and look up wordings and such, but simple truth is, not many will do that. And yes, it might not be 100% fair towards ppl who do take time to study these things and improve themselves actively and not just passively post a card and w8 what happens, but our competition is quite a casual one, even tho many of us (especially me) take it mby too seriously at times :) So there should be a place, where ppl with less skill in custom card creation can go and ask for help before submitting their card. Many many times i see amazing ideas squandered just by poor execution.

That being said, you might have a point about the actual discussion. There usually isnt much discussion about the cards that are submitted. To be honest, im not sure if it is a good thing or not cause it could very well end up influencing ppl to vote for one card or the other and im not too sure if we would count that as "vote manipulation". More so, we do not allow for ppl to promote their card outside of the submission thread and this could very well do just that. But i would be willing to support an idea to have a 3rd thread, a real discussion thread, where ppl could discuss these things. The current discussion thread could be renamed to a Feedback thread for example. But it would bring in the "overwhelm" factor, where ppl could be "intimidated" by the amount of information or rather supposed responsibility that three threads could/would present in the eyes of a casual competitor, more so in the eyes of a casual voter. But like i said, i wouldnt mind trying this out.