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The only thing I really look forward to about this game now is completing my dailies so I don't have to play this shit game again for another 3 days.

Just going to leave this here:

Quoting Mike Donais: "Naga Sea Witch Giants is not the best deck in Wild. If you look at any data report based off of actual math instead of feelings that is pretty obvious."

Okay, since we don't have access to Blizzard's internal data, let's use the third party resources available to us. 

Here is a link for the most played and highest win rate warlock decks in Wild, from the HSReplay site:

https://hsreplay.net/decks/#playerClasses=WARLOCK&gameType=RANKED_WILD

This data is the largest slice available at Rank 25 to Legend. Summarized from what we see here, the top 4 warlock decks are all Naga Sea Witch Giant decks. Without adding their sample size together, just taking the top iteration and comparing it to the next most played deck which is cube it is still TEN TIMES the sample size. In summation, NSW Giants is THE most played warlock deck in Wild.

Maybe it's biased, let's check it against the latest Vicious Syndicate meta snapshot for class distribution here:

https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/wild-drr/wild-distribution/

Interesting, the most played class looks like Warlock, and the most played archetype? NSW Giant Warlock.

So, now we have two data sources with similar reports. So either, they're completely inaccurate, or Blizzard is fudging the data. The data that no one has seen. Ever.

I guess it depends on what your interpretation of "best" means. Looking at the data available, it's only the most represented archetype of the most represented class — with the highest win rate. So, yeah.

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Kill the minions before he evolves them too much.

 

Easy win.

 

This is a pretty average example of what round 6 has looked like in the past 20 runs I've done.  If it's not Face Collector, it's Craggtorr, Azalina, or Gnomenapper doing something like this.

I've already beat everything for my card back, so whatever. I would still like to play this mode for fun. Shit like this isn't fun. If I wanted to do this every game, I can go back to laddering in Wild with NSW.

I finished monster hunt and decided to play more since this meta is absolute trash. I just failed 22 runs straight because of round 6-7 bosses were always either Craggtorr, Azalina or Gnomenapper. I checked the pool list on Icy Veins. There's like 11-12 bosses for round 6 and 7. But I've gotten highroll roflstomped by the same 3 bosses 22 times in a row.

There literally isn't a single corner of this game I find enjoyment in anymore.

Wild is ruined. Standard is complete garbage. The ladder and casual is filled with non-interactive, degenerate decks. Shit is too oppressive to meme anymore. Community is filled with a bunch of White Knighting Blizzard fan bois that devour any turd T5 shits out. Fucking morons.  They're 3 expansions ahead in development and can't be bothered to roll out regular balance patches? Fuck them, and fuck you for praising them like they're not just the next fucking EA ruining modern gaming.

This game is a sloppy half-made, bug infested raging dumpster fire. But we all keep playing it because sunk cost fallacy or you're a fucking retard and don't know better.

Fuck this shit.

The amount of Blizzard fan boys in this thread is gross. It's a bug, it should be fixed. Frankly, this whole adventure is overtuned and under tested. It's sad that so many of you are white knighting so hard.

Seriously, that card that fills his board on turn 4 is like CTA on steroids. He got a knife juggler and two 5/5 mech gnomes and just leathaled me on turn 5.

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A lot of people crafted a lot of expensive epics and legendaries, many of them wild only, in order to play the deck. I crafted some of the epics myself so yeah I've got some skin in the game. It's easy to say "x deck is ruining my wild experience," and 37/37 on turn 5 is maybe too wild for Wild, but Blizzard has to take into account all the dust people spent on the support cards. If you nerf Naga, all lot of people are sitting with Clockworks Giants and Malganis in their collection that they might never play again (I already play a lot of wild so I'm not sweating it too much). If Blizz burns these people they'll be less willing to spend money/dust in the future. It doesn't matter if you think those people are cankers, Blizzard knows they need people to spend money in order for the game to exist. They balance this with all the people who hate losing to the deck and may also stop playing. Quest rogue was a good example of nerfing a mediocre deck because the experience of losing to their but draws was so miserable, but early quest decks were mainly commons and rares. They're not a small indie company, there a massive corporation who cares about profitability, and they have tons of data about win rates and card crafting.

When you ask for a nerf you are also attacking the collections of other players. I'm glad Blizzard is deliberate in making nerfs. 

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Upset? Why are you upset? Your opponent won with rng + your help, be upset with yourself.

btw, that you went until fatigue with those really bad plays actually shows how OP cubelock is.

 

 Sub optimal plays are inevitable when your opponent drops a turn 2 8/8 without hard removal for it. 

 And you survive until fatigue even when your opponent draw nuts.

This deck is the most powerful deck ever made when you judge the consistency, have other decks with more powerful starts or finishing combos but they suffer with bad draws or combo pieces in end of the deck, this warlock bullshit is perfectly, have absolute everything, insanely OP healing, cheap mass removal, outstanding tempo and value plays, draw engine, etc..., etc.., etc...

Nothing comes closer to this bullshit, I prefer 10 times play vs hunter with 8 manas CotW than this abomination, or pirate warrior before axe nerf and that decks was nerfed.

Why this don't was or will nerfed is beyond any logic or reason, who denies is just bad warlock players don't want to lose your free wins with overpowered and busted cards.

 

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Upset? Why are you upset? Your opponent won with rng + your help, be upset with yourself.

btw, that you went until fatigue with those really bad plays actually shows how OP cubelock is.

#1 Fatigue MUST stay a relevant strategy in Wild. There is no reason to kill it, while it is arguably the most skillful way to play.

Increasing health is also debatable. 40 would probably kill aggro, because you give other decks enough time to react on regular basis.

Naga Sea Witch is annoying, but not as much as you would expect, and definitely requiring a fix on its own, not something that also kills a quantity of perfectly fair decks.

#2 Wild population is currently a small minority of the playerbase. You can't really afford to split it further right now.

While i agree that Wild risks to get broken, or already is, i still think the only way to fix it is by smart nerfing the correct cards (without killing them).

On the other hand, Standard itself is increasingly a rock-paper-shissors mode. As much annoying as it may be, it grants balance on the long run. And that can easily apply to Wild itself, independently of the powerlevel.

I sincerily wonder why i continue to play such a pathetic game. I mean, the game is boring, more than ever. Decks are more and more expensives and when you finally decide to craft them you realize how shitty they are. Nothing beats a good zoo finally. I'm still fucking sick of people who spam emotes btw. Last game i tried to play some deathrattle hunter. I guess i deserved a "Hello, friend" three times during lethal for having lost like a shit against odd rogue. But well, i'm not surprised, i simply never meet a player who doesn't bm or emote. I guess being unfriendly is a better thing than being friendly. Still no auto-squelch. Still obnoxious cards like spreading plague or shudderwock. Decks are full of tech cards like silence, mc tech, giggling inventor, ooze, etc. Druid is still THE ultimate class. Nothing surprising, there is absolutly no bad cards in this fucking class. Each fucking card in druid is cheated. Also, secret mage is still a thing. Mana wyrm t1 (aka you lost if you have no answer), aluneth, fireball face, fireball face, fireball face, etc ETC. Once again, 3 months of waiting for the new "xpac". 2 weeks of fun (or not) and everything begins again 

wow it's unreal how many people snap react and try to bash this guy
• some didn't even get that the imp was the problem (and +2 attack to doggies might not have been offered)
• doesn't look like he picked low value cards at all - green jelly, ball of spiders and the "why always snakes" guy
• hunter has weak aoe and it's not intuitive that you will need to pick it or else find the final boss will be literally impossible to beat
I think they should remove imp from her deck (or cardpool, however she got it) for sure, it's lame to have your time (7 previous monsters or whatever) wasted like that, unlucky dude

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This game is a sloppy half-made, bug infested raging dumpster fire. But we all keep playing it because sunk cost fallacy or you're a fucking ****** and don't know better.

I think the MMR of hs is a very complicated algorithm that is designed to give people the maximum amount of pain a player can take (loses) and then peppers in the pleasure (winning) just enough to keep us coming back for those dopamine hits.  Current meta feels more like a slot machine than usual eg. playing warlock whops qued into a quest rouge, or great I hit and even pally! I m hooked just like the rest of us but yes the ladder is rigged in that sense but its what makes HS players keep coming back for more. 

Every single run against this guy is an instant loss. 0/7.

Six salty dogs on turn 3 every game? Instant unavoidable removal through sack and silence for every minion played both before and afterward? Only to have him fill the board two more times in consecutive turns and use his hero power as a two-mana assassinate?

I mean, what's the strategy? You literally can't even highroll draft five primordial glyphs into flamestrike/blizzard every time because the mana disadvantage leaves you insufficient to use them.

Honestly was looking forward to monster hunt, but it's as though it was never tested before release. Run into Gnomenapper? Welp, start over. Fun right?

Quote from jeepers1704 >>

A lot of people crafted a lot of expensive epics and legendaries, many of them wild only, in order to play the deck. I crafted some of the epics myself so yeah I've got some skin in the game. It's easy to say "x deck is ruining my wild experience," and 37/37 on turn 5 is maybe too wild for Wild, but Blizzard has to take into account all the dust people spent on the support cards. If you nerf Naga, all lot of people are sitting with Clockworks Giants and Malganis in their collection that they might never play again (I already play a lot of wild so I'm not sweating it too much). If Blizz burns these people they'll be less willing to spend money/dust in the future. It doesn't matter if you think those people are cankers, Blizzard knows they need people to spend money in order for the game to exist. They balance this with all the people who hate losing to the deck and may also stop playing. Quest rogue was a good example of nerfing a mediocre deck because the experience of losing to their but draws was so miserable, but early quest decks were mainly commons and rares. They're not a small indie company, there a massive corporation who cares about profitability, and they have tons of data about win rates and card crafting.

When you ask for a nerf you are also attacking the collections of other players. I'm glad Blizzard is deliberate in making nerfs. 

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Also, yes. Nerf it. Wild needs balance updates soon before more people leave Hearthstone entirely.

*looks at title*

*looks at win rates*

*looks at title*

You spelled paladin wrong