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Quote from Andrei2007 >>

Conceding after a bad mulligan is really bad. A good player always goes for their outs, and only when there is no possibility to win the game anymore should you concede.

 No not a bad mulligan, when I mulligan all cards and I get exactly the same in return, from experience I know it is a lost cause, this particular game I am meant to loose. What you said I have tried, only to irritate myself. So I save the pain and time waisted, by just conceding :-)

At first I was going to make a poll but I figured that there might be more options then I could think. Thus maybe people could share their thoughts by comment, only mention the red line so not casual concedes.

My red line is mulligan, when I mulligan all 3 or 4 cards and get exactly the same cards then I know that the rng gods have made up their minds thus I concede, what is your concede mechanism?

Quote from Nefine1337 >>

Imagine if you are able to choose at the beginning of a season whether you want to be able to climb towards the rank of legend or if you want to just simply stop at DIamond 5. And your decision will be final for that season.

Why implement such a feature?

Well apparently you are only able to enjoy the game on the rank of legend because player will only than start to play meme and fun decks.
Players who want to reach legend will most likely play cancerous decks.

 Players who do not want to reach the rank of "pointless legend grind" will not have to play against cancerous decks since you will only be matched against players who chose the same as you.
Meaning, you play against the player base who actually want to play the game with meme and fun decks and not just brainless canerous board flooding decks that enable them to rank up fast to reach the "pointless legend grind" rank.

 

Thoughts?

 I do not agree, I just want to reach legend, maybe I like to achieve it and no meta or cancerous deck for me.

I play my homebrew big spell mage deck, it suprises the lot:

### Biggie Messenger
# Class: Mage
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Phoenix
#
# 2x (1) Arcane Breath
# 2x (1) Devolving Missiles
# 1x (2) Astromancer Solarian
# 2x (2) Confection Cyclone
# 2x (2) Starscryer
# 2x (4) Azure Explorer
# 1x (5) Malygos, Aspect of Magic
# 2x (5) Naga Sand Witch
# 2x (6) Blizzard
# 1x (7) Dragoncaster
# 2x (8) Deep Freeze
# 2x (8) Grand Finale
# 1x (8) Jepetto Joybuzz
# 1x (8) Tortollan Pilgrim
# 1x (9) Alexstrasza
# 1x (10) Kalecgos
# 2x (10) Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron
# 2x (10) Pyroblast
# 1x (10) The Amazing Reno
#
AAECAc2xAgjFBNqdA4qeA4ukA/CvA4y2A+G2A427AwvJA78IwqED1qUD9awD+qwD97gD3sQD4MwD+N0D/N0DAA==
#
# 

I even had a druid who dreamportalled 3 malygos in a row :-) that's some hell of rng error, what are the odds.

Quote from Hooghout >>

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Quote from Hooghout >>

Hearthstone is not made for people who are driven bij ethics and the 'right thing to do'. As Blizzard aka T5 for the past 7 years did nothing against roping and never introduced an auto squelch for that matter, it is an intricate part of vulgarity attracting morality of developers themselves.

Hearthstone is a repulsiveness producing game equally made by people who are reprehensible themselves simply because it seems to sell more packs.

 I understand you like to question the ethics of the developers, but if I'm understanding you correctly... you think that T5 is purposely not implementing features that would make the game better for the handful of people that want the feature... because they are evil. And they are spreading their evil through the game in doing so?

And this evil behaviour is actually helping them sell more packs? I guess I'm not following the logic behind that.

I think this is a matter of perspective. People roping intentionally could very well be a person continually analyzing the game to try and make better plays as they go. Much like many of the grandmasters, they rope almost every single turn, deciding what they are going to do and make the best play at the last moment they have. Sometimes even missing their last move because of time.

This may not be the case for everyone on ladder, but if people are doing it, it is their right, and we can't decide for them if they are doing it out of malice or their own need, because we can't see the other side of the screen.

 This game is ruled by a very profound understanding of human psychology and the primordial human psyche. Enjoying the game means to annoy your opponent in every possible way. Game design facilitates. 

 

 So annoying bots are also a good thing then? Every game is only fun when there is a competetion and not when one annoys the other. Let's say a boxing match, there is no boxing because one of the contenders is playing time and running away all the time, or a football game where one of the team has so called injuries and playing on time. Yes they are allowed to but no it is not fun or nice.

I hate them, from 1 mana up to the rest roping is a cancer.

They just hope to win with concedes by irritating.

This is really bad, come on I don't have much playtime, wasting it with roping is everything beside fun. Maybe blizzard should make 2 version or 2 settings, 1 standard and 1 fast where you have nozdormu times or so (maybe bit slower than nozdormu but you get the point)

Quote from DeafKnight >>

Quote from Ummie >>

They just hope to win with concedes by irritating.

Sounds like you're letting them succeed, too. 

As is repeatedly the case, here - there is literally nothing wrong with roping for any reason whatsoever, whether it's trying to to figure out your next turn, how to deal with what's on the board or simply trying to annoy your opponent into conceding. These are all legitimate and valid reasons to take your whole allotted turn.

You might as well get upset with people for playing cards you don't like or playing an aggro or combo deck etc. 
The problem here isn't with them...

 We found us a roper, congratulations. With football the referree will pul out a yellow card for wasting time. Wasting time intentionally to earn that tad bit of xp is just bad. Same like a mosquito sound when your trying to sleep, irritating.

Quote from NGENTOT >>

Why post here? Theres literally a salt thread there

 You are right, I dunno. But do you not agree?

I decided to make a post, I truly loved this game. But a while ago (more then a month) while playing I realized that I was not having fun, let aside I was getting irritated and maybe even pissed.

Why was I getting irritated from a game that I loved? A game should be about satisfaction, even when you loose. 

I think the main problem is that a lot of times that I won when I shouldnt have (no satisfaction in winning when you shouldnt) and that I lost when I should have win (irritation). I think this was better in the past? Maybe not? Maybe I changed and realized this only now.

Anyhow, a game should not piss me off, I already have got my wife to do that. And to be honest I dont know what the devs can do to fix it, is it the classes or the mmr or the imbalance. Maybe it is all together.

Does anyone else feel the same?

The replies are salt, not my opinion. Most likely priests, I hate it when a priest sees my 2x pyro and Naga. This means he or she will do anything to not get below 20, it immediatly kills a suprise otk because he or she has seen my hand. Same counts for any other card that has been seen, only a shuffle deck and secret passage counters it somewhat.

If it's a card from someone's hand they are after then just rng them a card from the hand, make the card 1 cost less I don't care, but don't show my hand.

If it was meant to be shown we would playing with the cards showing.

Just my 2 cents.

PS: To the few who write STFU, FU, who do you think you are telling me what I can think or say, go to China where no opinions are wanted.

Quote from nutinilati >>

The game is not rewarding towards good players.

Going to legend is a pure grind. Try to notice why you lose when you lose, if there are cards that are constantly not useful and can they be replaced. After that, tune your deck and stop making same mistakes. Grind. You are legend. Easy.

 

 Most of this is true. Not sure why you wrote not rewarding to good players...

I think what you meant is RNG allows bad players to win more. A good player will already be doing the things you mentioned and won't have the aforementioned LS.

That said OP. Tilt will wreck you, mental walls will wreck you, RNG can wreck you. If you're experiencing any of these things, take a break, go outside come back when you're refreshed.

It is irritating beyond belief. It'd be one thing if these players were legit using the time to plan and think. Take Lifecoach. He was in/famous for that when he played hearthstone. 

But for people who do it just to try to farm exp or farm concede wins? Total dicks. Only trouble is, you can't really prove which type of player they are in any concrete way for Blizz to act on it. It sucks. But that's why I try to take my turns as quickly as possible when I get a good handle on my decks and how they handle against the meta game. That way it helps to cut down the time even if the worst happens and they take every last possible second. 

Quote from NGENTOT >>

Why post here? Theres literally a salt thread there

 Cause he wanted to post here

i tend to agree with the Evocationnerf becasue wandmaker and cobalt spellkin amde it a little to easy to get it, the solarian prime enrf tho is a nerf i heavily disagree with, at this point hearthstone can just be renamed facehunter disneyland

I did not care for turtle mage I cared that I had a chance to win with prime now that 9 mana the chance is to win 0 cause it to late . I mean he will cast box and probably kill u if u get a bad outcome. I think nerfing it was f bs were the classes have way problematic cards.

Quote from Horrorwolf >>

OP is 100% correct, but Blizzard is a very very greedy company that is really behind a casino gambling system called Hearthstone that is merely disguised as a strategy card game. This game has been ridiculed for years now and it's now coming to a head.

So why is Hearthstone such a joke to the community? There are very basic card game rules that should not be broken for any game of this type to be taken seriously.

1. Exposing one player's hand to his opponent should never occur in any true strategy card game. It just makes Hearthstone more of a joke than it is.

2. Deck trackers should not exist. If players to so stupid that they can not figure out what has been played they should be playing something else.

3. There is already enough RNG in the game on its own - in fact well beyond reasonable standards. The current implementation of discover, add a card, copy hero powers etc just make it all the more and more ******** by the day. 

Its very easy to see why this is the case when they break the very rules they supposedly implemented to make it a real game in the first place.

• Only 2 cards of any type can be placed in a deck? (Broken by HS)
• Only 1 copy of a legendary allowed a deck? (Broken by HS)
• 30 health max cap for both players (Broken by HS)
• Fatigue system to keep the game to a reasonable length (Broken by HS)
• Cards should not discover copies of itself? (Broken over and over by HS)
• Mana system enforced by a turn based progression? (Broken by HS over and over again)

If they didn't want to make this game a joke they would allow discover mechanics that are strictly tied to both the cost, rarity and class of the deck. And no multiples would be allowed? Why because this is all common sense game breaking stuff. But they would rather break their own "game" fundamentals by allowing players to summon 7,8,9,10 mana legendarys for 2 mana cost. Durrr, durr...OOh isn't that exciting and fun guys? come and pay for these cards this expansion only for us to nerf them days before the following expansion!

So yes exposing the opponent's hand is just one of many bad concepts rife in Hearthstone today. That's why the competitive community and streamers have been dropping support for this steaming pile of dogsh*t posing as a strategy game for years now.

 I absolutely agree! Especially:

1. Exposing one player's hand to his opponent should never occur in any true strategy card game. It just makes Hearthstone more of a joke than it is.

But I have read some comments from certain people, they say it is intended. As much that is true, my opinion is that it is wrongly intended by Blizzard, I agree with the main topic writer, no one should look at the other players hand. It is a card game.

Ehm...it does? Guardian Animals summons 2 beasts, not copies of them

Dont waste your time with stupid tech cards

The game will always queue into non weapon classes the moment you put an ooze in the deck LMAO

Just the same as Arch-Villain Rafaam. God forbid anyone would actually want to have fun playing Hearthstone, but every so often they do print cards that might appeal to people who don't play by rolling their face across they keyboard every turn.

theres a lot of shitty demons..but i should it for the lolz. If you dont get any demon hunter minions whats the point.