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Anyone actually got a Noz game yet. Just played 10 or 11 games and didn’t see a single Noz. Saw a bunch of T1 net decks though in casual. 

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Don't you talk trash about my Wild Elemental Shaman >:(

 I bet shaman is a blast in wild with all the effects it’s had over the years. 

I’ve played a fair amount of shaman (only hero I’ve got 1000 win portrait with) and I think they’ve always had at least 1 archetype that was interesting to play. Shaman in standard has got to have the most boring set of cards of any class ever right now though. I go into the deck builder and there is no inspiration at all. Murloc and totem shaman have always been dull as dishwater, and the new elemental package is just bleurgh when you consider what cards in other classes are doing. I’m not demanding shaman gets shudderwock power level cards all the time, as I much prefer interesting games that ebb and flow even if I lose, but one or two more inventive cards would be appreciated  

I don’t want shaman to be t1 OP, I just want it to be interesting to play. 

No I'd rather just see a competitive game with consistency from the developers rather than them cowing to a vocal minority in the community as that is a dangerous path to go down. 

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A post which is complaining about people complaining and attacking people personally (calling them pussies) who attack people personally. Sounds like you are part of the problem.

Well said.  If ops post hadn't been laden with thinly veiled insults pointed towards the people and issues that obviously annoy him it may have been an interesting topic. 

There's a good argument for both sides with a card with such specific text that it only synergizes with the exact cards that are being nerfed. I think it would be fair and maybe a gesture of goodwill for blizz to refund kargal for full dust, but for the consistency of the game I can also understand why they're probably not going to. 

I hope you're right. I still can't quite believe that a card that casts such a massive shadow over deck building was printed. The people who defend it are the people who just want 'instant gratification' and don't actually care about the health of the game as a whole

Stats on minions mean nothing in modern HS.

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If I got 1 dust each time someone asked, I could craft a golden legendary.

 If I got 1 dust for every unnecessary comment I could craft a golden expansion set

To be honest this is the 27 millionth thread on the subject. 

I see only one person in this thread crying. They actually do look at player sentiment to decide on nerfs, so expect some change to the solitaire decks this week.

Lol, wild changes. Who cares..

Stop ignoring the fact that the game is in a terrible spot when it could be in fact a billion times better.

But this expansion do in fact suck

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you like it so be it. I have played since day 1 and every expansion the most fun in HS is the following weeks after a new set. This time I have already stopped playing. I just don't like the meta, it is solitaire most the time. You can cringe at that word as much as you want but its true. Quest Mage, Lock and OTK DH and Rogue just plain suck to play against. Its not fun. Untill nerfs or changes happen I won't play or spend a cent. If you like it good luck to you. 

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I don't know guys, I just came back to my favourite control priest deck, after having terrible luck with miracle/garrote/quest rogue, refurbished it a little and am currently shitting hard on the quest mages, and most other (mostly DH) OTKdecks as well. Mutanus eating Dawngrasp every time gives me great pleasure, and makes some of the smorcing morons concede instantly :) 9-1 so far, so maybe it's just luck, but I am having fun. Adapt to these idiotic times, steal their shit, and use it against them, this is the way!

 And then you rank up and play against mage players with  a brain who play Dawn on the same turn. 

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The streamers I am watching are having a great time. Best expansion ever for wild. And that is important, although people here always claim otherwise , by numbers standard is less popular globally. And the wild meta is fast for years now, with the average game ending on 5-8, with 8 mana already being late game. Still, there are enough people playing slow stuff for control mirrors to happen. But even they tend to end around turn 10. fatigue never happens unless both players are playing odd warrior. That’s what happens when new and interesting cards are printed. Standard gets faster too, and honestly that’s great. Everytime I play it i am bored as hell by how slow it is and how limited the card pool is.
There have always been “uninteractive” decks in history, and they habe one thing in common: people rage, although the winrate is horrible most of the times, as they lose to aggro hard. And minion combat does happen - in aggro mirrors and in aggro vs midrange/ control. Still, standard people will get what they want, and the cool new cards will be gone from wild since unplayable. The quests are already really bad, and they won’t survive a nerf in wild. I doubt that they are that good in standard either. Face Hunter and handbuff Paladin destroy them, as does burn rouge. And against face Hunter, handbuff paladin and other Aggro decks, minion combat does happen. And I do not see any difference between being doomhammered on 6, being killed by a face Hunter on 6 or destroyed by 3 giants turn 4 by darkglare wild warlock (no quest) and being killed by a quest reward on 8. Yeah sure, you can tech against the other decks a little better, but they are way more consistent and on average win faster. And if you count deck choices as tech (they are!), quest decks are even easier to tech against: aggro. just play a minion on 1 instead of giving up tempo and a card in hand for a quest, just kill them fast -> you did interact with their deck by counter queuing. Meta will become hostile for quests and they will fall off.

Brian Kibler literally left the stream sad/angry yesterday and said that today he would stream again but that he is not excited to play the game right now because the OTK decks kill him before turn 7. There are a lot of competitive players on Twitter that are making jokes about 'solitaire game' and that the meta right now is a failure. Thijs put 'Solitaire Game' as his Stream category. A lot of streamers/professional players are so fed up about the meta right now and you are here defending the OTK decks and that the streamers you are watching are having a great time. Don't lie to make your point valid. 

 You're arguing with someone who is claiming that Wild is more popular than Standard, not really sure what you were expecting.

you're dead by turn 5, relax

@tobigrafo

hahaha, sorry dude, im playing priest since beta wit 2.9K ranked wins playing priest legend every season and i played ShadowPriest night & day since yesterday and No, your not winning every matchup except Paladin, this is just a lie and not the truth.

ShadowPriest "CAN" beat some greedy mages IF You have the perfect Mulligan -sometimes- ,  same with Warlocks. But you'll never ever ever ever win every matchup except paladins. Jesus Dude, just calm down, yeah you won 2 matches in a row with a god hand, but dont tell us SP is a thing, its pure trash atm

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 but of course they appoint a woman on this position.

 What the literal fuck, dude? You talk about how a guy deserves to be fired, and you say something like this in the same post?