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Battletag: Tuscarora87#2753

Region: EU

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The deck functions without him. Don't waste dust.

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Battletag: Tuscarora87#2753

Region: EU

Trade only? Yes, you go first

Battletag: Tuscarora87#2752

Region: EU

Trade only? Yes, you go first

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Battletag: Tuscarora87#2753

Region: EU

Trade Only?: Yes, you go first

BattleTag: Tuscarora87#2753

Region: EU

Trade Only?: Yes

Quote from csguba >>

Neptulon is busted in more than just priest in Wild. Honestly it just needs to be banned but I dont expect it to happen. I'm currently running a deathrattle rogue that frequently gets it out by turns 3-6. It's generally auto win when it does. See picture attached for turn 4 double Neptulon. Opponent conceded.

 

 The issue is Sketchy Information triggering Kobold Illusionist. So, Kobold to 5.

There are 2 problems with this meta.

The 1st one it that it's balanced, but in a bad way. You can win or lose any matchup, because scams and counter scams decide games. I suggested you to play favored DH vs. Druids, but it can happen they scam you 3 games in a row with turn 4 Prestor and you will want to throw your device through the window.

Another problem is that nothing is extremely popular. You'll face a lot of different stuff on the ladder. It's hard to target anything. If you target Prestor Druid, other scammy decks will eat all your remaining nerves.

I played some Murloc Shaman.. with disastrous result, but in all the misery there was one good thing, this deck really kills Druids.

Another good deck is Fel DH.

If you want to join the dark side, then Celestial Druid, too.

.. Mage decks.

Generally, decks that play 1 and 2 drops are fine.

Quote from AndreiLux >>

Quote from Tuscarora87 >>

Quote from AndreiLux >>

They are able to clear, but you should be able to bring back your board multiple times most of the time.

Quote from Wazabi >>

There are many control decks around since the arrival of Prince Renethal. That's pretty much the reason why aggro isn't that effective at the moment. 

Quote from Tuscarora87 >>

It's really good at low level. Once you start facing good players and decks it becomes garbage.

 Are you sure? Stats suggest otherwise.

VS podcast says it's beating janky renathal decks at lower levels, while it drops in legend. The deck has zero player agency and you get rolled over by any decent player.

You exaggerate an already exaggerated opinion. Define "decent player". Is it top-200 legend player for you? Mech mage has a low skill cap and will be worse over time when junky decks die out, but not that dramatically. It will be worse mainly at top legend. It was a tier 2 deck with a positive winrate at top 1k legend before Renathal and tier 1 deck everywhere else, legend included. Tier 2 deck is not trash by any means. Dropping 1.5% winrate between top 1k legend and legend categories is not what guy who got back to HS a few days ago should care, it would be one of the best decks where he is playing. Last month I easily climbed to top 1.5k legend with it (I didn't play any further). The only way it would be bad is if Shamans and Big-Beast Hunter will completely dominate the format.

I said it's great at lower mmr. But the skill ceiling is so low, one completely depends on draw and the opponent's plays, just to average out. Which means, if you misplay often, then even worse for you. Such lower skill or a new player trying to get to higher more efficient level with this deck is almost certainly going to be disappointed. Of course, if you are a solid player, you'll do fine.

Regarding that VS tab, I'm not sure it's telling us the whole story. How things will trend once bad unrefined decks disappear? It's better to wait for data interpretation in the report.

Quote from AndreiLux >>

They are able to clear, but you should be able to bring back your board multiple times most of the time.

Quote from Wazabi >>

There are many control decks around since the arrival of Prince Renethal. That's pretty much the reason why aggro isn't that effective at the moment. 

Quote from Tuscarora87 >>

It's really good at low level. Once you start facing good players and decks it becomes garbage.

 Are you sure? Stats suggest otherwise.

VS podcast says it's beating janky renathal decks at lower levels, while it drops in legend. The deck has zero player agency and you get rolled over by any decent player.

It's really good at low level. Once you start facing good players and decks it becomes garbage.

Battletag: Tuscarora87#2753
Region: EU
Trade Only?: Yes, you go first