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This card can really cause zoo decks to panic, they'll likely make terrible trades to try kill off their minions, but then you can just not attack! A tricky card to master playing with and against.
Edit: Just realized I should word this "After your hero attacks" or it'd trigger before the attack causing heaps of problems haha.
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So I think I'm almost ready to submit. Here's how my post is looking. Any feedback is appreciated!
THE BATTLEMAGE
Battlemages are sort of a fusion between warrior and mage. They use magic to create weapons, armor, and to wreak havoc in melee combat.
My particular version of battlemage slowly conjures powerful yet fragile energy weapons. Weapon combat fills the battlemage with fury, empowering their spells and minions, much like how an enraged warrior's abilities become more deadly.
Main themes: "Can't attack the turn it's equipped" on weapons, 1 durability weapons, effects that change depending on the target (not shown in basic), buffing your minion's health, small but frequent armor gain.
Strengths: Versatile (has a large variety of tools at their disposal), can setup for very high power turns, excels against decks with lots of minions such as zoo decks.
Weaknesses: Obvious with weapons (conjuring a weapon takes time ya know?), weapon removal, struggles to fully utilize cards against decks with few minions, takes a lot of damage triggering spellfury and has no big heals or armor gain.
Keyword: Spellfury
Spellfury changes the effect (such as a Battlecry) it's printed after on the card, usually upgrading it. It activates if your hero has done X or more damage to minions by attacking this turn. So if your hero did 5 damage, Spellfury (1) and Spellfury (5) would activate but Spellfury (8) wouldn't. It can be tricky to master as damaging minions to buff your Spellfury can lead to you not needing the upgraded effect. Due to not being able to trigger Spellfury going face, cards that summon minions for your opponent are valuable to this class. Saronite Taskmaster and Marin the Fox are good examples. Note that class keywords do not appear on basic cards.
Example Cards
Cauterize: Solid removal if your willing to take some damage. You do get less value with a better weapon so don't overdo it. You can only kill them so much after all... (unfortunately)
Enchant Weapon: Fury: Your angry, your swords angry, your enemies minions are dead. It's a good time! This is an example of the classes cards that are only effective against minions, and the "Enchant Weapon:" card type that will appear occasionally.
Reinvigorate: After a hard days work, taking time to relax can do wonders. However it does seem to be less effective while the enemies minions are trying to murder you. I'm frankly shocked.
Summoned Battleaxe: The perfect card to show off the class at a glance. It may seem somewhat weak but it's a cheap way to trigger big spellfury cards and it has excellent synergy with weapon durability buffs (which the class has in classic).
Fire Tornado: The classes signature aoe. It's quite powerful, and an example of the classes armor gain which is often a small amount added onto another effect.
Remaining Cards
Flame Bowman: Another example of the classes cards that are only effective against minions.
Icecrafter: She has solid stats, and you can definitely get your monies worth out of her using windfury (which the class can get from a couple of classic cards).
Frozen Fist: Having no weapon equipped is another minor card theme so this gets players used to thinking about it early. A fairly strong card as early when it's best you likely wont have a weapon.
Conjure: Barriers: The class is great at conjuring armor, shields, etc, so the classe's minions are often well protected with high health! The class's weapons are a bit too complex for the average warrior to use so attack buffs aren't common.
Spellspeed: Using magic induced speed, you can strike down multiple foes before they have time to react! This card is paralytically good against big boards (less chance of 'losing' a hit to face), and with spell damage.
Previous Phase
If you like the class, check out my Phase 1 submission!
(Note: The hero power and keyword have been tweaked since then)
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After reading up on it, I see where your coming from with Detonate Mana. Since it's an actual ability (especially one from your hero) I'd definitely use it. Though the mana part still doesn't feel right. Maybe making it Silence the minion it targets? That'd mean it couldn't be basic but I feel it'd be less confusing. That version of Rise Again seems pretty weak but that's probably for the best in basic as 1 mana might be a bit too good.
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Thanks for the feedback! I shall fix the typos! I'm glad you like the class and appreciate the art, I hope to keep it up! I spent many hours finding fitting art haha. At least I now have a folder full of potential art so things should be a bit easier in future :P
The class is looking pretty sweet so far so I don't have much feedback to give. One thing that kinda feels off is Detonate Mana. Unless it's an actual wow spell the name doesn't really feel too fitting. Also Rise Again is fine, but keep it in mind when designing future cards as people can pull off some crazy stuff with it using Malygos and what not.
As for the KT roleplay, I honestly have no idea haha. It's kinda cool and sets your submission out from the rest, but it also adds more text and people already have tones of text to read so it may put a few people off reading it. I personally think you should keep it for this phase but in future with more complex cards, it might be tricky to make work.
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@NiRaSt
Thanks for the feedback! Cauterize is meant to be for minions your hero attacked. I honestly forgot that that wording would include attacks by minions. I shall clarify it!
As for your cards, I think Earthquake is pushing it for basic complexity but that might just be me. I really like the card nonetheless! Also I think Turn to Dust is pretty weak when compared to Hunter's Mark, so it should probably cost 2 or 1. The rest of your set seems fine and you have some really cool ideas.
@MurderyUnicorn
Thanks for the feedback! Summoned Battleaxe is pretty weak on it's own but that's because it is cheap and can give you big Spellfury turns. It also has very strong synergy with weapon buffs. I still like my hero power but I have a feeling it will be what knocks me out of the comp D: I'm in too deep to change it now though.
For your card that reduces minions attack, I would definitely go with -1/-1 as the ability to put an enemy minions attack to 0 is generally frowned upon. For your card that destroys a minion with 1 or less attack, I would probably make it cost 0 as it is very weak compared to Shadow Word: Pain and Scorp-o-matic, whose not a dead card if your opponent has no targets. For your destroy a minion when you cast a spell card, I think 3 mana is strong but fine (unless destroy effects are a weakness of your class). Otherwise Polymorph and old Hex (which was 3 mana) would make it look rather bad, especially since it doesn't Silence. The rest of your cards seem fine!
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I have finished my first draft for The Battlemages basic set! Note the keyword and hero power have changed slightly since phase 1!
The Battlemage
Info:
Battle mages are pretty much a fusion between warrior and mage. They use magic to create weapons, armor, and to wreak havoc in melee combat.
Main themes: "Can't attack the turn it's equipped" on weapons, 1 durability weapons, effects that change depending on the target, buffing your minion's health, small but frequent armor gain.
Strengths: Versatile (has a large variety of tools at their disposal), can setup for very high power turns, excels against decks with lots of minions such as zoo decks.
Weaknesses: Obvious with weapons (conjuring a weapon takes time ya know?), weapon removal, struggles to fully utilze cards against decks with few minions, takes a lot of damage triggering spellfury and has no big heals or armor gain.
Keyword:
Spellfury changes the effect it's after (usually upgrading it) if your hero did X or more damage to minions by attacking this turn. So if your hero did 5 damage, Spellfury (1) and Spellfury (5) would activate but Spellfury (8) wouldn't. It can be tricky to master as damaging minions to buff your Spellfury can lead to you not needing the upgraded effect. Due to not being able to trigger Spellfury going face, cards that summon minions for your opponent are valuable to this class. Saronite Taskmaster and Marin the Fox are good examples.
Showcased cards:
Remaining basic set:
Hopefully nothing really needs an explanation since it's the basic set :P
Phase 1 Cards:
Arcane Rush: Don't think of this as a 2 mana draw 2 with a drawback, but as a 2 mana draw 1 with an upside (you can play your next draw immediately). You'll only skip 1 draw even if you play more than one on a turn!
Conjure: Divine Armor is an example of one of the classes themes, targeted cards with effects that change depending on the target. It has a paladin theme due to being from TgT.
Bound Sword: Has the typical can't attack when equipped battlemage theme, but with the option of trading some value to gain tempo.
Arcane Fury: If used alone it's pretty weak, but spellfury (2) is easy to trigger and 3 mana for 5 damage is solid!
Gerrart the Swordslinger: On his own he's an alright card. but if you manage to trigger the Spellfury (10) then he's insane (assuming there are minions left for him to hit :P). A simple, classic legendary that shows what the class is about.
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Taking all the feedback into consideration, I have made a fair few changes. This is what my updated post would look like:
The Battlemage
Info:
Battle mages are pretty much a fusion between warrior and mage. They use magic to create weapons, armor, and to do other things that'll help them in melee combat.
Strengths: Versatile (Has a large Variety of tools at their disposal), can setup for very high power turns, excels against decks with lots of minions such as zoo decks
Weaknesses: Obvious (Conjuring a weapon takes time, and spellfury needs a decent weapon so you need to think ahead, and your opponent has a chance to interrupt your plans), brutally countered by weapon removal, struggles to trigger spellfury against decks with few minions
More will be revealed as the class is fleshed out!
Keyword:
Spellfury changes the effect it's after (usually upgrading it) if your hero did X or more damage to minions by attacking this turn. So if your hero did 5 damage, Spellfury (1) and Spellfury (5) would activate but Spellfury (8) wouldn't. It can be tricky to master as damaging minions to buff your Spellfury can lead to you not needing the upgraded effect. Due to not being able to trigger Spellfury going face, cards that summon minions for your opponent are valuable to this class. Saronite Taskmaster and Marin the Fox are good examples.
Showcase Cards:
Arcane Rush: Don't think of this as a 2 mana draw 2 with a drawback, but as a 2 mana draw 1 with an upside (you can play your next draw immediately). You'll only skip 1 draw even if you play more than one on a turn!
Conjure: Divine Armor is an example of one of the classes themes, targeted cards with effects that change depending on the target. It has a paladin theme due to being from TgT.
Bound Sword: Has the typical can't attack when equipped battlemage theme, but with the option of trading some value to gain tempo.
Arcane Fury: If used alone it's pretty weak, but spellfury (2) is easy to trigger and 3 mana for 5 damage is solid!
Gerrart the Swordslinger: On his own he's an alright card. but if you manage to trigger the Spellfury (10) then he's insane (assuming there are minions left for him to hit :P). A simple, classic legendary that shows what the class is about.
The main things are the hero power is now 3/1. I figure since Pounce isn't that strong, and hero powers are meant to be about as strong as 0 cost cards, I figured this'd be fine. I thought a 2/2 would have been a bit too strong. I also remade spellfury. Your hero needs to do X damage against minions by attacking to upgrade an effect. Since it's against minions only now it should make the keyword pretty interesting, and prevent this class from going face too much :P
I'll try give some feedback to everyone once I get a bit more time.
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So it's not a big deal this phase as we're all winners, but my class seems to be doing really poorly in terms of votes
Here's my post:
The Battlemage
Info:
Battle mages are pretty much a fusion between warrior and mage. They use magic to create weapons, armor, and to do other things that'll help them in melee combat.
The hero power may seem weak, but it trades really well, being able to take out minions like Dire Wolf Alpha , Sorcerer's Apprentice , and so on. The downside is also redundant if you use it after attacking, as you wouldn't have been able to attack anyway.
Strengths: Versatile (Has a large Variety of tools at their disposal).
Weaknesses: Obvious (Conjuring a weapon takes time, and spellfury needs a decent weapon so you need to think ahead, and your opponent has a chance to interrupt your plans), brutally countered by weapon removal.
More will be revealed as the class is fleshed out!
Keyword:
Spellfury gives 1 damage for every X damage your hero did from attacking this turn. So if your hero did 10 damage, Spellfury: (1) would give 10 bonus damage where as Spellfury: (3) would only give 3 (it'd give 4 bonus damage if your hero did 12 damage). It can be tricky to master as damaging minions to buff your Spellfury can lead to you not needing the bonus damage. Also don't worry, there will be ways to go all out with this!
Showcase Cards:
Arcane Rush: Don't think of this as a 2 mana draw 2 with a drawback, but as a 2 mana draw 1 with an upside (you can play your next draw immediately). You'll only skip 1 draw even if you play more than one on a turn!
Conjure: Divine Armor is an example of one of the classes themes, targeted cards with effects that change depending on the target. It has a paladin theme due to being from TgT.
Bound Sword: Has the typical can't attack when equipped battlemage theme, but with the option of trading some value to gain tempo.
Arcane Fury: If used alone it's pretty weak, but spellfury (1) makes it gain damage easily. This can deal 5 damage just with an attack from the hero power weapon making it pretty good!
Gerrart the Swordslinger: On his own he's an alright card. Normal decks will have some difficulty getting more than 1 bonus damage out of spellfury (3) , but decks aiming for big spellfury turns will love this guy. A simple, classic legendary that shows what the class is about.
I was wondering if anyone could give me an insight into why? Just not interesting enough? Hero power seeming weak is a big issue? Not enough story/text? I must improve!
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The Battlemage
Info:
Battle mages are pretty much a fusion between warrior and mage. They use magic to create weapons, armor, and to do other things that'll help them in melee combat.
The hero power may seem weak, but it trades really well, being able to take out minions like Dire Wolf Alpha , Sorcerer's Apprentice , and so on. The downside is also redundant if you use it after attacking, as you wouldn't have been able to attack anyway.
Strengths: Versatile (Has a large Variety of tools at their disposal).
Weaknesses: Obvious (Conjuring a weapon takes time, and spellfury needs a decent weapon so you need to think ahead, and your opponent has a chance to interrupt your plans), brutally countered by weapon removal.
More will be revealed as the class is fleshed out!
Keyword:
Spellfury gives 1 damage for every X damage your hero did from attacking this turn. So if your hero did 10 damage, Spellfury: (1) would give 10 bonus damage where as Spellfury: (3) would only give 3 (it'd give 4 bonus damage if your hero did 12 damage). It can be tricky to master as damaging minions to buff your Spellfury can lead to you not needing the bonus damage. Also don't worry, there will be ways to go all out with this!
Showcase Cards:
Arcane Rush: Don't think of this as a 2 mana draw 2 with a drawback, but as a 2 mana draw 1 with an upside (you can play your next draw immediately). You'll only skip 1 draw even if you play more than one on a turn!
Conjure: Divine Armor is an example of one of the classes themes, targeted cards with effects that change depending on the target. It has a paladin theme due to being from TgT.
Bound Sword: Has the typical can't attack when equipped battlemage theme, but with the option of trading some value to gain tempo.
Arcane Fury: If used alone it's pretty weak, but spellfury (1) makes it gain damage easily. This can deal 5 damage just with an attack from the hero power weapon making it pretty good!
Gerrart the Swordslinger: On his own he's an alright card. Normal decks will have some difficulty getting more than 1 bonus damage out of spellfury (3) , but decks aiming for big spellfury turns will love this guy. A simple, classic legendary that shows what the class is about.
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@MurderyUnicorn
Thanks for the feedback! With Cauterize , I just really like the flavor of the card and think the way it kinda has negative synergy with high attack weapons is interesting. Arcane Rush is also pretty flavorful seeing as it shows the contrast between the battlmages more power driven use of arcane, and the mages knowledge driven use (Arcane Intellect). Plus it synergies with itself as if you play 2 of them, you'll draw 4 cards but still only skip 1 draw and that's pretty interesting so I shall go with Arcane Rush!
As for the hero power, I still think it's balanced since if you use it after attacking you bypass the downside so to speak as you couldn't attack with it anyway. And 2 damage is a pretty big deal early on as it can take out 3/2s and other things. Any changes I can think of hurt the feel of the class or are too drastic so I'm probably gonna stick with it unless I can think of a minor buff I'm happy with.
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I'm think I'm almost ready to post!
The Battlemage
Info:
Battle mages are pretty much a fusion between warrior and mage. They use magic to create weapons, armor, and to do other things that'll help them in melee combat.
Strengths: Versatile (Has a large Variety of tools at their disposal).
Weaknesses: Obvious (Conjuring a weapon takes time, and spellfury needs a decent weapon so you need to think ahead, and your opponent has a chance to interrupt your plans), brutally countered by weapon removal.
More will be revealed as the class is fleshed out!
Keyword:
Spellfury gives 1 damage for every X damage your hero did from attacking this turn. So if your hero did 10 damage, Spellfury: (1) would give 10 bonus damage where as Spellfury: (3) would only give 3 (it give 4 bonus damage if your hero did 12 damage). And don't worry, there will be ways to go all out with this!
Cards:
Arcane Rush: Don't think of this as a 2 mana draw 2 with a drawback, but as a 2 mana draw 1 with an upside (you can play your next draw immediately. You'll only skip 1 draw even if you play more than one on a turn.
Conjure: Divine Armor is an example of one of the classes themes, targeted cards with effects that change depending on the target. It has a paladin theme due to being from TgT.
Bound Sword: Has the typical can't attack when equipped battlemage theme, but with the option of trading some value to gain tempo.
Arcane Fury: If used alone it's pretty weak, but spellfury (1) makes it gain damage easily. This can deal 5 damage just with an attack from the hero power weapon making it pretty good!
Gerrart the Swordslinger: On his own he's an alright card. Normal decks will have some difficulty getting more than 1 bonus damage out of spellfury (3), but decks aiming for big spellfury turns will love this guy. A simple, classic legendary that shows what the class is about.
Other cards:
I'm not 100% sure if I've included the right cards for my showcase. What do you guys think?
Edit: Updated post with more info and some changes.
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In short, you can have a big deck of tiny cards, a tiny deck of big cards, or somewhere in between!
You can have no more than 30 cards, but you can have a smaller deck if you run out of power. 0 cost cards are on the house!
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@freddoccino
I like the thematic direction of this class, with conjuring at all; also a theme rather unique to Hearthstone itself. The Hero Power seems rather weak to me but I understand making it different from giving your Hero +2 Attack this turn, and the value from having a weapon in this class, although you're only showing one card that synergizes. I don't think the aspect of timing and planning is bad in the slightest though, it does draw the fantasy well. I really like the concept of the different targeting from Divine Armor. I'm not sure if there's any possible clearer wording though, since there isn't really anything like it (I think not saying 'gain armor' is different enough from relative cards). I'm not sure I totally understand Spellfury; does the damage increase by 1 or also by X? Regardless I think it's a good tie-in to pull together the fighter and spellcaster aspects. And Axeman is a really clever way to achieve this as well.
Thanks for the feedback! The 2 damage hero power is surprisingly strong for reasons I mentioned in my above post.
Spellfury increase the damage by 1 for every X damage your hero did from attacking this turn. So if you did 10 damage from attacking, a spellfury (1) card will do 10 extra damage where as a spellfury (3) card will only deal 3 extra damage (would deal 4 at 12 damage from attacking). Do you think there's any way to make my keyword clearer?
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I think the wording for it is fairly clear. I didn't even consider the other possibility until reading it.
Thanks for the feedback! Theres a surprisingly big difference between 1 and 2 damage. 2 damage can take out things like Sorcerer's Apprentice, Knife Juggler, Raid Leader, and so on. So I think the downside (Which you can sort of bypass by hero powering after attacking) is fair. Plus, not attacking the turn it's equipped is gonna be a pretty big theme with the class.
Clone Weapon: There will be other mechanics like Conjured Axeman! And it has great synergy with Spellfury. However you got me thinking more on balance and the future of the classes weapons. I think at 1 mana this would limit my design space a fair bit so I'm gonna make it cost 2. It'll still be really strong, just not so much with the hero power weapon.
Arcane's Fury: I like the balance on this. On it's own it's pretty bad, but with the hero power 2 damage and Spellfury (1), it deals 5 damage making it really good. And with a better weapon, it's even better!
Garrart: Glad you like the balance. He's meant to be mainly in decks that aim for huge spellfury turns but he might still be good enough to consider in other decks.
I'll try keep conjure exclusively on my 'Conjure:' cards. The axeman will be renamed!
Thanks for the feedback! I like spellfury being specific to your hero attacking. It's very difficult to balance otherwise. For example, a card like Gerrart would be completely broken. Trade in a Dire Wolf Alpha and some tokens and he'd easily be dealing 4+ damage with his battlecry. Also I think the keyword just really shows off the class and gives it it's unique place. Plus you can still benefit from the keyword with just the hero power.
As for your class, it looks good so far and the hero power seems balanced.
Deduce to Reduce is a stronger Arcane Intellect which is fine, just keep in mind that there should be areas your class is bad at to make up for how good it is at card draw.
Replicable Results I think is also really strong but we can add it to the super strong card draw category.
Laboratory Guard I think needs to be changed. The way the card is means if he can attack, you probably win given you have 1 mana tokens from your hero power and even Abusive Sergeant would cause some serious damage with him. I like the idea but I think something like a 6 mana 2/8 legendary would work better.
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I've finished my first draft for my class idea!
The Battlemage
Info:
Battle mages are pretty much a fusion between warrior and mage. They use magic to create weapons, armor, and to do other things that'll help them in melee combat.
Strengths: Versatile (Has a large Variety of tools at their disposal).
Weaknesses: Obvious (Conjuring a weapon takes time, time which your opponent can use to prepare for said weapon)
Cards:
Conjure: Divine Armor is an example of one of the classes themes, targeted cards that's effect changes depending on the target.
I've gotta head off to work so I'll update this with more info, my thoughts and what not later.