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it is fixed.  The 15 damage cap until someone dies is the damage cap Battlegrounds needed.

There is no problem.

ashen elemental.  problem solved.

I like complex game play (not aggro, not self piloting).  So it'd either be that or Reno Priest since Control Hunter really is not a thing.

The card text doesn't sound like it would remove a Kingbane, but Martian didn't say anything so I maybe the guy was joking.

I made legend a few seconds ago with Renethal Reno Shudderwock Shaman, and really one Rustrot Viper plus Zephyrs into Ooze was sometimes enough of a tempo loss for Kingsbane Rogue to give a chance, especially combined with Loetheb slowing down buffs.   I'm not saying I enjoyed seeing the matchup, but I won sometimes.

[Even Shaman is such brain dead deck.  Most of the Shaman I saw on the climb were Even Shaman.  I don't hate the deck, but it is the Odd Paladin of 2023 and I don't understand how anyone could enjoy playing it.].

I might even be happy that Kingsbane Rogue exists, it can be teched against ... I hope it is suppressing some Demon Hunter and Warlock cancer decks.  There are some nearly invincible trashy cancer out there that does not get to breathe right now.

Does Steamcleaner remove Kingsbane from  deck?  I heard someone complain that steamcleaner ruins fun playing Kingsbane Rogue during a Martian buu stream.

Grumble is expensive.  Cold storage costs 1 mana.

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There are too many meme decks. Legendary was once meant to be a unique card. Nowadays you can play the very speacial game changing card over and over again.
Imagine playing chess vs. an opponent who cheats a 2nd, 3rd king on the board or who is allowed to make 3-4-5 turns in a row.

I am playing since beta, but the game has never been worse than these days. And I don't believe that it will get better with the new expansion. I fear it will get worse.

 

 Wow, apparently you have playing Hearthstone in an alternate universe.

Rogue has had Shadowstep play the game minion over and over again since forever.

Youthful Brewmaster and even Ancient Brewmaster have been cards since forever.

Annoying forms of Resurrect Priest for ages, minions like N'Zoth and stuff like Bloodreaver Guildan.

Why is that "I've been playing since beta" is always followed by something stupid that means you really have not consistently played this game in ages?

Why not be honest and say you play off and on and sort of pay attention but mostly don't?

Instead of being surprised by cards like Shadowstep exist?  It is just annoying.

Wow this deck list sucks.

But it is Warshack, and when Mutanus came out, did some of the biggest filthy anus plays ever.

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Eh I dunno, all it did was make tech cards even more powerful, and if you're not playing an aggro deck you're spamming every disruption card that you can put in your deck anyway because they're rather broken in wild. There aren't any control decks that exist that don't have 2x rat, mutanus, theotar or loatheb in them. ETC on top allows you to play situational tech cards that outright make some decks irrelevant, condensed into one card so your deck isn't as shit.

An example is skulking geist - mediocre for a deck slot, but now you automatically win against all jade druids while having access to a swiss army knife of other hyper specific disruption cards that automatically win the game against other archetypes. Printing more and more cards like these that don't let your opponent play the game is going to become more and more toxic as expansions go by because we're just gonna end up with half the deck being "fuck with your opponent", and it's really not fun on the receiving end.

There is a lot of merit in what you say about samey tech cards in all control decks.

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but mage Skip a turn Quest makes etc dumb... Just my opinion... 

you can play the New mage legendary That plays All cards That wasnt originally in your Deck. 

nów Imagine playing the 4 mana Portion That plays your minion back and cost 1 mana. etc also allows brocken Stuff like That. 

 When I queue into a quest mage, I almost pee my pants with glee.

A single Dirty Rat, Mutanus or a well timed Loetheb ends the game.

Yes, they occasionally win, but if I make them play the combo as punishment, while they spend those 10 minutes doing te combo, I watch a YouTube video and laugh. 

Like Dr. Strange vs. Nostrilsdormu, I forced the Quest Mage as my prisoner to waste 10 minutes while I watch some funny videos.

ETC made Wild far better.

I'm sure the nerfs helped, but not enough it was going to be stale.

But the introduction of ETC really mixed things up and wild is packed with variety and there does not seem to be a Tier 0 deck.

I see a wide mix of classes, most of them have a few viable archetypes.  And somehow Pirate Rogue and Secret Mage are not oppressive.

I've been playing Shudderwock Shaman with Togwaggle in ETC in some previously unwinnable matchups, I can sometimes Togwaggle into Sir Finley and get a ton of Quest Mage cards or 1 cost Druid cards or Control Priest cards and it ruins the few combo decks out there.

ETC is best thing since Renethal to me.

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Honestly, the most toxic, poisoned, negative community I've seen in any game.

 Perhaps less toxic now that you are doing other things.

Am I wrong to wonder why it they couldn't have nerfed Pillager rogue and Quest Mage a year ago?  Or why Demon hunter had to be nerfed 13 times on release?

The curation of this game is curious at times.

Standard seems to be terrible metas followed by another terrible meta after they botch the nerfs followed by a lame meta where there is a variety of unfun decks.

I appreciate that they finally did some wild nerfs they easily could have done a year ago.

Wild still has flaws but is playable and far more so than it has been in a while.

Battlegrounds is somehow boring and uninteresting right now, I wouldn't call it bad but it was way better during quests to me.

I see no one excited about any of those 3 modes.  A shame, but maybe it is hard to keep a game like this fun forever.

Beast with deathrattle should not produce ghastcoiler.

We are back to infinite loops of deathrattles in Battlegrounds if someone is Tier 6.

Why is every Mage spell with Manathirst go face and is Manathirst X, do a shitton more dmg?