The reality is, if you were really any "good" at deck building, your deck would stand against Jade Druid
Wtf are you talking about? Druid now officially tier S. This piece of s just better then anything you can brew! And that is the reason for people to complain.
Balance of classes, decks, cards currently sucks. When you build a deck and want it to be any good, your choices are limited because one card are just better then other. You can't put in your deck War Golem because there is Dr. Boom. You can't play hunter and be as good as someone who play druid. And people do not like this bs! People want to play more classes, more archetypes, more diversity in one single deck. People want equil winrates for Warriors and Mages in Arena! And this is the reason for all this topics! Players have a right to complain and want to be heard, players have a reason to call HS bs because state of the game is terrible. This is the issue. And, while you have great arguments for your statments, I guess you know what is this issue people talk about and you are feel the same.
LOL, WTF are YOU talking about?
This isn't a cry about Jade thread; in fact, the op is mainly complaining about hyper aggro decks, which Jade Druid isn't.
My point is when people make a thread like this one, they are essentially saying that they want to win with their homebrew deck, but they can't hang with decks like Pirate Warrior (OR Jade, OR Murlocodin OR whatever) - so they complain about netdecks and the "state of the game." Not only is it silly, it is even worse when nerfs to ever tier 1 deck have been announced for next week, yet still people want their validation because they lost at an RNG game.
Meanwhile, you're on here posting about Mage arena winrates and War Golem. What. In. The. Hell.
Fact: Most (borderline all) people play HS like any other game ever, to win.
Fact: HS is a collectible card game, and like any and every other CCG, some people like brewing decks while others like playing with popular decks people make. There is nothing wrong with either decision.
Saying things like why aren't people more creative and play fun decks is really just a way of saying "my deck isn't competitive, so I would like to play against other people who have made weird jank decks instead of playing against something good that kicks my ass."
The reality is, if you were really any "good" at deck building, your deck would stand against Jade Druid, PW, Highlander Priest, or whatever the meta is at a given time. But when your homebrew decks fail hard against them, you cry foul and claim you just want to "have fun." (When having fun really means winning, like I said in the beginning.) I know, because I used to do this.
Here's an analogy, if you've ever played Magic: The Gathering. You don't go to Friday Night Magic with some weird untested homebrew garbage and expect to win. You especially don't go and lose and then cry foul because everyone there had a better deck and/or played better than you. If you want to have a casual game setting with friends and you all agree to homebrew, then fine, that's good. But you can't expect that in a competitive setting, which is what both casual and ranked are in HS.
If you want to have "fun" (playing jank) then you already found the solution. Play with friends. You can still complete your daily quests, so what's the issue?
So.. just curious to the OP... who says wild is easy? :P
Have you read other people replys. Your answer is right there.
Yup sure did. ONE guy said he had more success in Wild than Standard. But that's not the point, or the point of my original post.
In order for the op to make this thread, someone (or more likely, many people) had to say Wild was easy. Are there other threads with other people saying Wild is easy? I'm just curious where he got the impression from.
If anything I see a ton of threads with people saying they don't play Wild because they don't have access to all the cards or whatever. It's actually a LOT harder for a new player to get into Wild for that specific reason. Wild is more crazy sure, and the decks can be a lot more insane. Not sure if that translates to easier or not.
Priest is the most played class I face atm in Wild. Not even here you can escape this cancer. Heal, Heal, Heal, Removal, Removal, Heal, Heal, Removal... playing 8 turns, only playing removals and healing, not even one minion to interact with - except maybe Reno to heal for 20+ HP.
So fun and interactive -.- ...
I miss the PW-Meta a few month ago, the matches were so much action packed and not just only watching how the enemy is just denying you trying to play the game. :(
You miss games ending between turns 4-6? That's what happens with PW. I don't miss that at all.
The biggest problem with your thread, and idea, is that you are complaining about something that isn't against the rules. Roping isn't breaking any rule, so what exactly would you be reporting them for?
We've learned through my thread linked below that people, in general, do not like to lose. So, whatever they lose to, they will cry and bitch and moan about it.
Yes, some of the HS interactions are a bit ridiculous. Yes, some decks are generally not fun to play against. Yes, there are some obvious flaws in HS's card design.
BUT - that doesn't mean every single damn card/deck needs a nerf, which is what I am seeing on these forums. It's ridiculous. Nerf Warrior, Nerf Druid, Nerf Priest, Nerf Warlock, Nerf Mage... WTF people? What cards/decks DO you want to play with, exactly?
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Your poll is missing a third option. Please add:
Neither. I'm an asshat.
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I don't understand threads like this.
Fact: Most (borderline all) people play HS like any other game ever, to win.
Fact: HS is a collectible card game, and like any and every other CCG, some people like brewing decks while others like playing with popular decks people make. There is nothing wrong with either decision.
Saying things like why aren't people more creative and play fun decks is really just a way of saying "my deck isn't competitive, so I would like to play against other people who have made weird jank decks instead of playing against something good that kicks my ass."
The reality is, if you were really any "good" at deck building, your deck would stand against Jade Druid, PW, Highlander Priest, or whatever the meta is at a given time. But when your homebrew decks fail hard against them, you cry foul and claim you just want to "have fun." (When having fun really means winning, like I said in the beginning.) I know, because I used to do this.
Here's an analogy, if you've ever played Magic: The Gathering. You don't go to Friday Night Magic with some weird untested homebrew garbage and expect to win. You especially don't go and lose and then cry foul because everyone there had a better deck and/or played better than you. If you want to have a casual game setting with friends and you all agree to homebrew, then fine, that's good. But you can't expect that in a competitive setting, which is what both casual and ranked are in HS.
If you want to have "fun" (playing jank) then you already found the solution. Play with friends. You can still complete your daily quests, so what's the issue?
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In b4 someone wants to nerf trolls.
Seriously though, good post!
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So.. just curious to the OP... who says wild is easy? :P
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No.
Can someone please lock this fool's whine threads?
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No, the hunter DK is quite fun to play, and there are a few viable decks out there with him as well.
While hunter may not be top tier right now... so what? Are you entering a world tournament or something?
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Wrekt by pirate warrior on turn 5. Or murlocs. Or shaman aggro. Or probably any Naga deck, for that matter.
When you create a deck in a vacuum to deal with a specific thing (Jade, secrets) you usually get pwned by all the other things.
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If you never plan on playing Wild... but honestly Wild is a lot more fun.
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The biggest problem with your thread, and idea, is that you are complaining about something that isn't against the rules. Roping isn't breaking any rule, so what exactly would you be reporting them for?
Bad idea is bad. And stupid.
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We've learned through my thread linked below that people, in general, do not like to lose. So, whatever they lose to, they will cry and bitch and moan about it.
http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/202736-what-do-you-like-to-lose-to
Yes, some of the HS interactions are a bit ridiculous. Yes, some decks are generally not fun to play against. Yes, there are some obvious flaws in HS's card design.
BUT - that doesn't mean every single damn card/deck needs a nerf, which is what I am seeing on these forums. It's ridiculous. Nerf Warrior, Nerf Druid, Nerf Priest, Nerf Warlock, Nerf Mage... WTF people? What cards/decks DO you want to play with, exactly?