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That's absurd. It does no harm to "the brand" (whatever the hell that means) to allow people to continue to use the cards they paid dearly for (either in money or time). If anything, forcing people to dust their cards (at such a discount) is more likely to damage Blizzard's reputation than reforming it.

I swear, the petty hatred for Wild on this forum is so f-ing tiresome. The Wild fanbase may not be huge, but (believe it or not) some people really enjoy it. I personally think Battleground is moronic: an utter waste of time. But I'm mature enough to understand that other people enjoy it, so I don't say offensive garbage like that.

That's okay: I generated a couple others from Hematurge!!

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A recommendation that i don't see much... Ban pairs of cards instead of cards themselves. Like tome tampering is banned with if malchezzar imp is in deck. Like astral communion with (say) lady anacondra etc

Busted interactions can be removed but the cards can themselves be used...

 I've thought the same thing for a long time. There are absolutely certain combos of cards that simply break wild. But allowing Switcheroo as long as Inner Fire was off the table seems reasonable.

The other option I can see is permanently retiring certain cards. Blizzard has already banned 5 cards, so the precedent is already set. This is, in my mind, less likely because a) Blizzard would have to give us full dust value if it perma-killed these cards; and b) more importantly, it would lead to countless "ban this" demands from the player base.

It feels even better to Patchwerk my opponent's Xyrella, the Sanctified!

Dear lord, not again. OP, you are either:

1. A troll, looking to start a food fight by posting something he knows is going to get people riled up; or

2. A conspiracy nut who is resurrecting the "Blizzard is secretly controlling your win/ loss record in order to blah, blah, blah" nonsense. If this were being done to everyone playing implock, it would be obvious immediately to sites like HSReplay, which track all this, and would lead to a massive scandal. Since that hasn't happened, the only logical answer is that Blizzard is after you. Sorry, dude, but I doubt you're that important. OR

3. (Best option) You, like many people, are a victim of confirmation bias.

If option 3, get a deck tracker (or do a serious study tracking your opening hand). If option 1, congrats, you got what you wanted. If option 2, seek professional help.

And, yet, you continue to post here, even after you claimed to have stopped playing the game.

Just played a game with Pen Flinger and Year of the Pig. Could ping every single minion on my opponent's board, costing me nothing.

That was pretty freaking fun!

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The sad thing is most pros and streamers still dictate the meta and very few players actually spend the time and patience to build a deck of their own that works.

 Sorry, I'm throwing the BS flag here. The reason you see "netdecks" is because the decks they create (which they "actually spend the time and patience to build") ARE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE. Why? Because the current crop of cards in Standard provide sufficient support for said decks. There's a reason you don't see an Undead Hunter or Pirate Shaman. You'd have to be an idiot to try to ladder with it.

I'd venture to bet that most people, if they bothered, could come up with a Quest DH deck that is 95% identical to the "meta" deck that a streamer puts together. It's not that hard. So why waste valuable time reinventing the wheel? I could grow my own food, but I'd rather go to the grocery store.

I swear, some people think it takes some deep brilliance to put together a deck of 30 cards. It's not rocket science.

 No it's not rocket science and yet everyone just copies tier 1 and 2 decks from HS replay or any other deck site. I wouldn't call it deep brilliance but yes players need a deeper understanding of the game to build a deck that functions well from top to bottom (early game to late game). I'd say 1 out of every 10 games do i see someone using a meta deck that has a single different card than the net deck version. At a certain point it becomes so easy to counter because every turn is so predictable. Judging by the fact that you've posted no decks on this site and you've been a member since 2016 leads me to believe you've always copied others decks and you're trying to justify not taking the effort to do it yourself.

1) No, actually, you don't need "a deeper understanding of the game" to build a good deck. You need a few functioning brain cells and some experience playing the game. To take a dated example, look at Mech Mage. Do you honestly want to tell me that creating that deck takes a deep understanding of the game? Any idiot could create that deck in 10 minutes. Over time, people realized that certain cards weren't very good in the deck, but that's a change at the margin. The basic wincon and play choices remained pretty steady. I realize some people need to feel like they're special by saying "I create my own decks," but in most cases, they've taken 28 cards shared by all decks of that archetype, tossed in a couple different cards, and walked away telling themselves they're better than everyone else.

2) That said, the very term netdeck is stupid. As an example, I looked up deck lists for the contemporary version of Miracle Rogue. Some of the decks use Necrolord Draka, others use Astalor Bloodsworn. Some use Gone Fishin', some Tooth of Nefarian. So, which one's the netdeck? Look at any of the major archetypes and you'll find the same: 90% identical, with a few differences (often tech cards). When most people complain about netdecks, what they're really complaining about is the fact that the number of high-performing archetypes is too small.

3) As for your snide little deckbuilding comment, here's a news flash for you: One can, in fact, create a deck without posting it here. Those are two separate things. I do, periodically, create decks entirely of my own, mostly to play either in Casual or at a floor in Ladder. If I'm looking to climb the ladder, I'll typically look at 4-5 different version of the deck I'm interested in playing to see what cards are in common and which ones are different. The cards that all the decks have in common are usually going to account for 27 or 28 of the cards in the deck. Then, I'll make a decision about what the final couple of cards will be. That decision will depend on a) what cards I have/ what I'd need to craft and b) what decks I have been seeing on ladder. Does that make me a hated "netdecker?" I don't know and I don't care. I'm having fun and succeeding. In the interest of full disclosure, I will confess that sometimes I find a deck that looks good and fun, so I copy it entirely. I sure hope that doesn't make you lose respect for me. /sarcasm

4) While we're on the subject of people's decks, I took a look at yours. Yeah, I see what you mean. That N'Zoth Deathrattle Hunter was really cutting edge. I'm sure no one else thought of it. Same for your Quest DH. I'm blown away.

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The sad thing is most pros and streamers still dictate the meta and very few players actually spend the time and patience to build a deck of their own that works.

 Sorry, I'm throwing the BS flag here. The reason you see "netdecks" is because the decks they create (which they "actually spend the time and patience to build") ARE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE. Why? Because the current crop of cards in Standard provide sufficient support for said decks. There's a reason you don't see an Undead Hunter or Pirate Shaman. You'd have to be an idiot to try to ladder with it.

I'd venture to bet that most people, if they bothered, could come up with a Quest DH deck that is 95% identical to the "meta" deck that a streamer puts together. It's not that hard. So why waste valuable time reinventing the wheel? I could grow my own food, but I'd rather go to the grocery store.

I swear, some people think it takes some deep brilliance to put together a deck of 30 cards. It's not rocket science.

We now know that, later this month, Blizzard will be releasing some balance changes. There have also been countless threads here about the need to nerf this deck/ card. But, what never seems to be addressed is what we mean by a "balanced" meta? In most cases, the poster calling for a nerf completely fails to address what will happen AFTER that nerf takes effect. What will that change do to other decks? What deck will then be the new top dog? (For example, many are calling for nerfs to Miracle Rogue and Quest DH. Will that, as seems likely, make Spitter Hunter the dominant deck?)

So, let me ask you all, is a balanced meta:

a) one in which every class has a viable deck to ladder? If so, how high? Legend? Diamond? Platinum?; OR

b) one in which every type of deck (aggro, midrange, control, combo) has a viable deck?; OR

c) one in which both minion-based and spell-based decks are viable?; OR

d) some other condition I can't think of.

I, speaking for myself, lean towards b), but could be convinced otherwise. Would love to hear some real thoughts and analysis, vice bile. (May be asking too much!)

I guess I made the mistake of using irony on this site :p 

What?! This is stupid. When I pull my credit card and it gets declined, I just get the things for free, why should HS not always follow this logic? ;)

But seriously, isn't it just one card that should be changed for this to work in Bgs?

Acting like you won't get Bomb Squad

No, the actual question is Blood Herald, Furbolg Mossbinder, or Former Champ

I keep buying packs / expansions / minisets and primarily play this game for that mode. If it was shut down, that'd literally be the moment I was done with this game (as BGs have zero appeal to me and Standard is generally boring AF). Wild players asking for some quality of life changes is a rational thing to expect from fans of the format, and any changes would not affect Standard players in any way. What I don't get is people that don't play the format constantly piping up.

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Blood DK at 60%+ winrate... seems pretty playable to me...

Please someone tell me, this 🤡 is not for real ?

So ur showing us a example with 300 Games Samplesize, but not enough you didn't even bother to specify which rank, just the general / all ranks setting.

How did this Amateur who doesn't even know how to navigate HSreplay properly become a Moderator in here ? Yuck.

Blood DK is unplayable, let me repeat. Un-play-able at Legend if you want to climb, without having to amass enough sample size that would require like 12 hours a day in front of your computer, trying to break even.

Warlock and Druid are the only playable classes right now if you plan to rank really high. But why listen to someone who was among the best 200 Hearthstone players in Europe just last month, when you can just troll and defend your nons as a Moderator, right ?

Instead of attempting to reach Legend rank for the first time, why don't you just go ahead, make good use of those pOwErS - ban me, because I'am obviously mocking you... and having a BLAST with it. lul. 

VERSUS

 Honestly impressive that they taught an ill-mannered toddler to type.

My god you're like a Hearthstone version of a flat earther, relax already.

I mean it's just cosmetics. That is literally the most inane thing you can get upset about. Maybe go outside and interact with real people a little more.

So when there's no packs you whine and when there are free packs but "too few" in your eyes you still whine? 

Do you want 50 free packs for watching 1 hour of  stream to be satisfied?