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can't really say i enjoy this meta when druid has acess to basically everything and quest rogue is roaming around top tier decks in the game. Basically you've got to play aggro or get destroyed by the combo decks. I wish there was more variety regarding archetypes, right now it's very polarized. 

What i do like is the class viability, you can play all of them and be competitive. Although there are several things that could be adressed to make the game better , it could definitely be worse

this game is absolute crap right now. Token Druid has absolutely no bad matchups, if they hit their ramp you're just dead. It's a game of solitaire where you have no way of disrupting your opponent's combo if you're not playing Warlock and it's all about either drawing into OTK crap or going full SMOrc mode. Most of the games are decided before the first card is drawn, doesn't matter if you play well and your opponent is a bot vomiting cards or vice versa. Something needs to change

nope. still one the most cancerous and bullshit deck this game has ever seen. Nerfed twice and still good enough to have over 50% WR

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it would be AMAZING if the only problem with druid was a 4,5,6 card combo. Druid is a broken piece of crap all around, just way above everyone else. reliable 30+ damage otk ? check. stall ? check. removal ? check. superior life gain compared to warrior ? check.  Token deck ? check. Endless barrage of taunts ? check. And if isn't enough let's enable a meme card like Togwaggle with even more broken stuff for druid, why not.

 We are talking about wild there. Arguably every class have a deck there that is powerfull enough to deal with anything. So it is not the case of Druid. However Druid have something that other classes don't have.

 My point is that Druid has multiple of those insanely powerful decks combined with the fact they possess some of the most powerful cards individually, not to mention the synergy like in that Aviana Kun Togwaggle deck. I'm not disagreeing with the point made about that combo being crazy powerful and now with the juicy psychmelon consistent and reliable, i'm just saying that the class as a whole is a problem right now that needs to be adressed.

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it would be AMAZING if the only problem with druid was a 4,5,6 card combo. Druid is a broken piece of crap all around, just way above everyone else. reliable 30+ damage otk ? check. stall ? check. removal ? check. superior life gain compared to warrior ? check.  Token deck ? check. Endless barrage of taunts ? check. And if isn't enough let's enable a meme card like Togwaggle with even more broken stuff for druid, why not.

Wouldn't it be almost as accurate to say that warlock is close to the same thing?

Infinite value hero power removal almost for free each turn, combo deck with upwards of almost 25 burst with good rng, the most consistent class in disrupting combo decks, powerful answers to deal with both wide and tall boards, very fast-paced aggro deck, has the most powerful baseline hero power of all classes.

If druid needs to be addressed then let's make things consistent by dealing with all classes that can currently do too much.

 i absolutely agree with your point about Warlock. I just feel there's more counterplay to their stuff (unless we're talking about zoo highrolling the shit outta you on T1 or double mountain giant by T4) than there is to Druid. Burn decks in general punish slow warlocks and warrior does well against zoo, for example.

it would be AMAZING if the only problem with druid was a 4,5,6 card combo. Druid is a broken piece of crap all around, just way above everyone else. reliable 30+ damage otk ? check. stall ? check. removal ? check. superior life gain compared to warrior ? check.  Token deck ? check. Endless barrage of taunts ? check. And if isn't enough let's enable a meme card like Togwaggle with even more broken stuff for druid, why not.

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Yeah, the expansion didn't change much yet. Control is still op and the combo versions got even stronger, aggro got nearly no new viable tools, the new mechs are meh and instead there is now a neutral Spreading Bullshit in form of Giggling Clown, so control can stall even longer against offensive decks.

 found the salty aggro player that makes no sense when there is at least three very viable and strong aggro decks

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Passed each lethal puzzle without truble... Until now. Stuck at that one with 4 Doomguards (3/6 Electra). Goddamnit! 

 Yeah, stuck at the same one. Trying the board clear ones and I can't solve the 3rd encounter's last puzzle (Demonologist Draan 5/5).

 stuck at the same board clear one, math is hard lol

if you think the puzzles aren't hard i suggest you keep playing, it gets pretty damn tricky,

lol no. druid still exists and is as moronic as it has ever been, same for zoolock. While i agree that this expansion has some cool, non-obvious mehanics that require some more strategy we will never be able to say the skill requirement got higher in hearthstone.

is there anything but freaking god damn druid on this game ? jesus fucking christ this player base is pathetic

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To some extent, I agree with you. The biggest RNG in the game right now is what you queue into, as the matches are so polarized that one deck is heavily favoured from the start. And having so much power in a few big cards makes a lot of the matches feel very draw dependent (Oh, I drew my combo first - guess I win then!)

I don't think it's all bad, though. We do have a diverse meta right now, which is pretty nice. The top decks on ladder are all control and combo, which I'm pretty sure is a first in Hearthstone history. And I also think the Witchwood, much as it was derided as a low-impact set, was a crucial step back from power creep of the last couple of sets. It looks to me that Blizzard are trying to correct some of the worst excesses of the past few sets, but maybe that's just wishful thinking. I hope so, though.

 

 yeah, i do like the diversity and the fact that every class is playable, that is really a first-timer. And i definitely agree with your point about Witchwood, not nearly as many unfair cards although the new mechanics (especially echo) are underwhelming

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My main issue with the very strong meta is just probably the repeat decks. I ran into this before my first break with Contest of Champions when I encountered 13 secret Paladins in a row. Now it’s  the same thing but with Odd Paladin. It almost forces you to also play an ultra powered deck to compete with the rest.

 What decks are you using? 

 Funny but I rarely see odd paladin.  ALL I see are taunt druids, Even and Control Warlocks, Big Spell Mages and a mix of odd and miracle Rogues.

 i'm mostly running at Taunt Druid and Even Warlock as well. a fair share of Hunter, too.

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My main issue with the very strong meta is just probably the repeat decks. I ran into this before my first break with Contest of Champions when I encountered 13 secret Paladins in a row. Now it’s  the same thing but with Odd Paladin. It almost forces you to also play an ultra powered deck to compete with the rest.

 What decks are you using? 

 i've played pretty much everything at this point, although i mostly play control decks. As I said, i've been playing for a long time (started at GvG release). I've hit legend and have 8 golden heroes with the final one on the way, i really like the game. What i'm hating is the overall power level the cards are at right now and that makes for REALLY swingy matchups and takes away a lot of the skill factor. It's much harder to win a bad matchup today than it used to be a while ago, for example

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