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When did the community ever predict a dangerous OP card? Countess Ashmore  draws 3 specific cards, while having a 6/6 body. It was prophecised to be OP as F. Yet noone played it. Taunt or Maly druid doesnt run 7 or 10 mana minions, so the card is effectively a 4 mana draw 2. While you may be able to draw your maly, you still need to draw your two moonfires. So being able to target Malygos like this is honestly not needed.

While Flobbidinous Floop certainly is strong in Malygos druid, which is working as is right now, it become even stronger without counters. So the fear is justified with this card.

 Comparing it to ashmore isn't fair.  It draws 3 specific types of cards, but the value is often pretty low plus her 7 mana cost.  For 4 mana you are drawing 34 mana worth of cards for 4 mana, nowhere near the value that you'd draw with ashmore.  More druid decks than maly druid will play this and decks will be built around it, and unlike ashmore they can be literally any cards of those mana costs, rather than having to have what have at least in witchwood been fairly mediocre keyword cards.

 

 

 Even if you DRAW that "34 mana worth of card" it still stay in your hand, unlike that legendary warrior spell that can play like 24 mana worth of card with 9 mana. I wont denied that it is a good card, but to use it to this card fullest potential isn't it we need to cut some card slot from 30 card pool of deck to include 7 and 10 minion druid less likely see in play on witchwood expansion.

In standard pool there are only four 10 mana minion that can be included in druid deck deathwing, ultrasaur, tyrantus and sea giant, if we included boomsday there will be mulchmuncher. Under 7 mana slot there wider variety of card that can be included which is baron gedon, AoW, AoL, ashmore, corrider creeper, moonkin, ettin, anaconda, ravenholdt assasin, sated thresadon, silver vanguard, spiteful summoner, stormwind knight, volcanosaur, azalyna, war golem, worgen abomination, wyrmguard and our neqest edition of 7 drops is star alligner. Based on this pool worth mentioning is tyrantus and AoW.

Now lets say we include this card and other card so it can draw all 7 8 9 10 drops, which card we will gonna card in current druid deck to make it work? This card have similarity with UI and nourish in a sense of drawing card, but nourish give a flexibelity to ramp for 2 mana crystal while this card doesn't provide that. If we replace UI with this card UI provide 5/5 body on board while also give armor for survivability while this card doesn't provide anything beside draw. On the other hand juicy psychmelon only cost 4 mana while in turn 10 we can play alongside plague for protection. If we play all of the card isn't it will clog up in our hand. Often times we burn 1 or 2 card to play UI because our hand is full.

When the ideal time to play this card? Would you rather turn 2 wild growth -> oaken summon -> nourish -> 8 drop or turn 2 wild growth -> psychmelon -> nourish -> 8 drop. While melon provide guarantee 8 drop the turn after nourish, but oaken summon provide survivability while we ramp.

My impression for this card (only for standard play mode, i don't play wild) is that this card is a good card, but not to the point this card is broken. For me it is one of the "one of cards" in the deck because if we already draw what we need to draw this card become less impactful to the point it become useless. Playing this card make us vulnerable for threats given by opponents in trade of "certainty." Often time this will be mainly used for looking key card in the deck rather 4 mana draw four.

By reading your post it seems you exaggerating how important mecha jaraxus is for player base "This is a popular icon in HS", "oh it's just cosmetics but this hero is soul of the warlock", but in the just like you said we can still play warlock even without mecha jaraxxus.

To be honest I never spent money to play hearthstone because i feel its expensive, but i know there is a lot of people who willing spend their money in this game. If i may say they are a loyal consumer for blizzard, people who willing to spend money for pre order packet. Rather think mecha jaraxxus is the hero that blizzard sell for $80 why dont you just think that mecha jaraxxus as a token of appreciation by blizzard to people who supporting this game. Because if all player like me we dont even get to play HS right now.

In business perspective it's just like you said that Jaraxxus is one of iconic character in HS. to further increasing the sale its fair for them to release limited time jaraxxus for fans to obtain. I guess this practice is commonly used in all business sector by limited their product it gives more values to it.

If you feel that their decision unfair for you for not rerelease the mecha jaraxxus it is because you only looking from your perspective, but from people who already buy it it's unfair for them if blizzard rerelease MJ. Maybe some of them work their ass of just to buy this mega bundle so they can show off MJ to their friend. If you think "they don't work their ass of they just pay it to get MJ" you never know how they collect their money. Maybe some people spend their yearly saving so they can buy it.

In the end this is just limited collectible item if you feel it is worth the price feel free to buy it and i think lot of people feel that it is worthed.

In my case I am always dust anything except druid, warlock, pally and neutral. Whenever they become meta i will rise with them in high ladder or sit in the corner quietly when they are not viable at all.

Imagine you have a high position in well establish company. By doing your job you got huge amount of salary and all kind of benefit such as insurance etc. our life will be comfortable and full of joy.

And there is another people who feels life like these isn't fun at all. How can people enjoy this when you almost do nothing you can achieve something. In the end instead working for well establish company they creating company from the scratch, looking for challanges.

Isn't it like us when we play hearthstone? First we play cube warlock, when we start know how to play this deck and reach a high rank we start to think "how come this deck so strong that i can achieve this rank without thinking at all?" Then instead playing cube warlock you create a warlock deck where you can otk your oppenent with your hero power and aim for rank 1 legend.

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 There is no law, still, if the OP for some reason expects readers to look around in the multiple pages of the thread for the point of the thread, which should be present in the original post, he has to expect people to not take this in the tone he didn't make clear in the initial post. No reader is required to read anything other than the starting post, everyone is discussing the subject made on the first post unless they decide to do so otherwise, that is the entire objective of creating these. What good is a point made on page 50 of a thread as mostly no users will be looking for that point there, but rather in the original post. So yes, it is not a legal obligation, it is just an obligation derived from common sense :) .

I will just tell you this. That second type type of "Salt" Threads is exactly the reason why I saw this thread as a normal complaint thread rather than the satire is it supposedly intended. In a see of threads created in a serious manner using the exact same framing as this one with the exact same kind of non-sense argumentation as this one, it is not possible to distinguish this one from just another of the serious posts made on a daily basis, and hence why it should be clear in the original post what this was. Because we get serious threads framed like this one on a daily basis.

I still disagree. When you frame yourself the exact same way as others doing this seriously, no minimal effort to distinguish yourself, there is no reason why people should see you as a satire rather than the exact same thing everyone else does seriously. It needs to be done corretly for the environment in question. This one didn't feel even the slightest bit odd because when you look at it compared to the environment in which it is made, it doesn't distinguish itself. Are you supposed to arbitrarily guess this one is satire while the others are not? I don't see how that is logical, to have to arbitrarily guess that rather than understand it by something tiping you off, which requires context which seems the OP ignored. When taken into context, this thread looks the same as the serious ones. Nothing odd about it.

My issue with the 3 types you made is that the OP manage to mix them all into one while not going over the top, not in a way one can consider over the top when you know the spectrum of players in this game. Reality is there are players out there that do believe the Warlock/Hunter Hero Power argument, and when you know this, how are you supposed to look at this as satire? When this is something people would do seriously? When you look at other nerf or salt threads and you see the same obvious non-sense logic being applied in an actual serious manner?

And I'll add that if he were to present the Lynessa/War Golem argument, that would tip me off because that is going tooooo far, that is going beyond what any player would go. The Warlock/Hunter Hero Power at least has basic mathematic principles one can understand, if you just disregard basic concepts of card games, Lynessa is harder to make it fly like a serious argument.