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When comparing to Kirin-Tor don't forget that Kirin-Tor mana cheats 3 mana while this mana cheats 2 mana.

So in effect this has 1 less attack, can't choose, saves 1 less mana for the added effect of draw 1. Which seems fair or slightly tilted in favor of kirin-tor

You don't lose if you draw him early. 

The strength of the deck is that even at 9 cost, the coins allow you to burst for anything between 16-34 damage from hand (you basically have 12 mana and preps) 

The weakness of the deck, as all Maly rogue decks, is dying before drawing Maly, neither SS or shuffle helps in that regard. In fact, they make it worse since each time you draw them you don't draw Maly, removal, or draw, which are the only things you care for. 

As for the actual decklist, the card I don't like in it is Shiv. I think a Thalnos there would be better. Gives the same draw, can help with early removal like Seal or Backstab, can help vs token druid with FoK, and can be an early target to enable Praise. 

The second change would be removing a Maniac for a second Sculptor. My thinking here is that Maniac is a terrible card that you use only because you have to, but a second draw engine might allow you to draw your better Invokes more consistently rather than having to play a 4 mana 2/2. IF (and only if) Invoke seems consistent without playing the Maniac, maybe even removing the second as well for a Zilliax. 

Seems kinda a stretch to call for "pretty consistent by t5" is you only have 3 invokes that you can play by t4 and need to have played 2 of them... 

2 issues:

1)you aren't running maybe the strongest card in the set, that also has extreme synergy with Handbuff AND lackeys, corrupted faceless. Just do it. Even without handbuff, with lackeys, he is a neutral Surger. With handbuff he is simply disgusting. 

2)

50% of the time you'll draw your anubisarath before your apothecaries, and then apothecaries will be dead cards. Even if we include the mulligan, because Apothecary also draws an Anubisarath as well, it severely increases the chance that the 2nd Apothecary at least will brick. 

While Anka can help with de-bricking 9 cost anubisaraths from hand, she does nothing for making bricked apothecaries useful. 

A single lab recruiter can be comboed with a 1/1 anubisarath to make the apothecaries useful again (and even if you don't need him to enable the apothecaries in a game, you still have excellent targets for him to not be a dead draw) 

the strength of the deck is the exact OPPOSITE of your opponent. Galakrond is a tempo engine, Quote from Ace1a >>

Quote from masterquintus >>

Holy crap Quest Galakrond shaman is insane. A refined deck will be tier 1 for sure. Warrior and Mage seems strong too

 I easily beat one in wild with my Renolock. He played the quest and completed it mid game only to overwrite his OP double battlecry with galakrond(he only invoked once that game). He did HP first so he got 4x of the 2/2 rush, but that didn't do much and he had a much worse new HP and conceded. I said galakrond was not viable in quest shaman and that game proved it to me.

 the one game with a terrible player (it's extremely easy to get 4x 8/8s in quest galakrond shaman) proved to you something? 

by that logic, if a single player beat a single renolock, does that "proves" that renolock is a terrible deck?

The strength of the deck is the exact OPPOSITE of what your opponent did. Galakrond, even when not played, is just pure tempo gain every time you invoke, and when you need to finish off your opponent, you drop 4 x 8/8s

Damn forum... At least let me delete the dupes... 

Triple post... 

Double post

Sure, GL! 

To be totally fair, there is an upside that I can see in using Galakrond for the finisher instead of Tog, and that is 1 less turn setup (since lackey, Tog, treasure is 10 mana so no mana for the sinisters, while you can Gala, sinister, sinister in the same turn) it is just that it seems overall slower to me due to the nature of having to play 4 Invokes first (which are slow cards by tgemselves) 

So you basically lose speed 4 turns but you actually gain speed on the finisher... It may work, it may not. 

Mostly draw/defensive stuff. 

As an example, and to utilise new cards:

Removing the 3/5 dragon and the auctioneers as well (since without the 3 coin minion  there is no point of going Auctioneer) 

I would go with a small Dragon theme running big whelps (draw), rogue breath (draw), Elusive wyrm (removal), another dragon to reach critical mass (the 4 cost Elusive, fairy, or something cheap like that), the "better SI" that requires dragons (removal/early board) and etc. 

So, the core would still be the base Tog package, with added Maly and shuffle for finisher, and utilise dragons and Dragon synergies (alongside cards like the new faceless), for early tempo/board control and for draw.  

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A different route would be to go more defensive with deathrattles rather than the more tempo oriented dragon approach. With running double applebaum and khartuts, and going with the new apothecaries to tutor them and get extra healing and draw, add in something simple like Thalnos which is still an OK result from apothecaries alongside regular combo rogue cards that work with him like shivs.  

Nah, 1st comment wasn't on your deck, it was on another otk malygos Galakrond deck. 

It's not that I'm underestimating lackeys. In fact, lackeys are more than fine. 

I'm saying the rest Galakrond stuff is simply too slow. 

Galakrond adds nothing on your win condition, since what he offers Tog offers exactly as well. 

So, in effect, you're running 9 or so cards that their value is extremely questionable in order for... What? 

The same 9 slots could have simultaneously higher draw (faster combo) and higher survivability than what Shield of Galakrond, Seal, and Praise offer. 

I said it before but once more:

Using Galakrond just to draw 4 0 cost Maly is just a terrible version of doing the exact same thing but with Tog. 

You can run the same combo with drawing 3 0 coat Maly from the treasure and you don't have to fill your deck with 9+ cards that directly reduce your survivability to reach said combo. 

Shaman (OL aggro and/or Gala) seems the strongest to me, followed by pirate warrior (both the more aggressive and the more tempo gala version). 

The only decks that I see having the tools to reliably stall them enough is non-highlander Handlock and maybe traditional CW. 

So I'd say those few decks will shape the meta around them. 

As always, it'll be extremely annoying if a class (warrior) has 2-3 decks in opposing spectrum (hyper aggro pirates and hyper control CW) since that'll further boost their winrate due to coinflip mulligan vs them. 

Simply insane:

With just a token (or a lackey) that's basically a neutral Oasis Surger with quest activated. 

2x 5/4 rush

Gala doesn't play nice with CW. 

I'd see the whole package (so far) as much more of tempo warrior card.