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    posted a message on Progressing Through The "Beginner" Ranks
    Quote from mrob3 >>

    I had the same experience with my alt account. In the beginning I  had a 90% win rate with an aggressive DH build I threw together just to try and climb quickly.

    After 50 games or so I started getting run over by tier 1 decks and was confused as to how a beginner could craft such decks. The reality is you're building an mmr right from the beginning. With a great win rate, matchmaking starts to put you against opponents of the same mmr regardless of rank. I didn't realize it at the time, but I was playing against diamond ranks. Once you get through the apprentice ranks you're awarded a star bonus, just as you are at the start of each month. I was given a 10 star bonus which is the moment I realized why I had been facing such stiff competition.

     I don't think my winrate was quite that high, but this is an interesting/troubling proposal. Are you certain that the people you were queing into when you were climbing through the apprentice ranks were in diamond? The people that accepted my friend requests were all also in the apprentice ranks, but it's possible that some of the people that didn't accept were diamond. 

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    posted a message on Progressing Through The "Beginner" Ranks
    Quote from Unthahorsten >>
    Quote from Sevasmios >>
    Might as well just forego the training ranks entirely and throw them onto ladder, it's essentially the same thing.

     The problem is, you miss many rewards then. But climbing through as true F2P can be not worhty anyway. IDK, if you skip it all you can have like one or 2 bonus stars? Try to hit D5 with that to get those cool rewards :)

     Honestly I didn't do it for a skin or rewards on an alt or anything like that, I was just curious about what the training ranks were like nowadays. I definitely wouldn't spend money on an alt since my main is essentially F2P anyway. It just struck me as crazy how many people are going full sweat with tier 1 netdecks at ranks that don't seem to matter and that are intended to introduce new players to the game. 

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    posted a message on Progressing Through The "Beginner" Ranks
    Quote from Tommykoppo >>

    Since yesterdays theres a tournament in spain that consist on reaching top leyend with a new f2p account, maby thats why you are founding tryhards in those ranks

     This would explain it if so many of the decks in question weren't decks that you need time and/or money to craft. 

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    posted a message on Why is my deck changing?

    I've noticed that occasionally some of my decks will be missing a card or two as well, and I have no explanation. Either we're both being messed with by someone who has our pw and login, or (more likely) HS is a poorly optimized game that frequently crashes and develops all sorts of bugs/issues, and this is just another bug that a certain small indie company can't be bothered to deal with.

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    posted a message on Progressing Through The "Beginner" Ranks
    Quote from Unthahorsten >>

    I would recommend Trump's very last F2P saga, it was really pain in the ass to watch all those Tier1 decks he fought between Apprentice ranks 40-1.

    I was about to start alt. account too, but no thanks :/

     Yeah man it's rough. It's sad to see that this is the introduction people get to HS now. I imagine quite a few people probably quit after running into all these p2w people with their tier 1 decks all the time at ranks where you're just supposed to be having fun and learning the ropes. Might as well just forego the training ranks entirely and throw them onto ladder, it's essentially the same thing.

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    posted a message on Progressing Through The "Beginner" Ranks
    Quote from Mugwump >>

    I think blizzard changed the match making system to allow for all kinds of players, regardless of rank. Once you win a few games in apprentice, you will be matched against players from the regular ranking systems. Otherwise you would constantly play against the same opponents (which is very annoying), or have extreme long wait times (which might make the game unplayable). This is also the reason we don't see the ranks of opponents anymore, until legend.

     Thanks for bringing this up. I had the idea this might be happening as well, so I sent a friend request to everyone I matched up against. Not many accepted, but the few that did were all in the apprentice ranks. Some were admittedly much further along than me, but I attribute that largely to some of the win streaks I went on and the consequent increase in mmr. I think there are still plenty of people in these initial ranks for whatever reason, or at least I would propose that is the case where I tested this out in EU.

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    posted a message on Progressing Through The "Beginner" Ranks

    Idk man, for me it feels more difficult than it was when I did this like a year ago. Granted the deck I tried with now is terrible and I just threw random stuff in, but it feels like there are more people queing with netdecks than it did before. I'll have to try again with a semi decent decklist and see if anything changes. Rn I'm just queing hunter with random minions.

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    posted a message on Progressing Through The "Beginner" Ranks

    So recently I made an EU account on an alt blizz account (in an attempt to prevent mmr from my primary account from influencing matchmaking) primarily out of boredom and out of curiosity regarding what the beginner ranks are like nowadays. Initially, when I started queing at rank 40, I found that the decks and players I ran into were fairly in line with what I expected. That is to say, the decks generally consisted of random core/basic cards and the players weren't particularly skilled. However, as I got closer to rank 30 I noticed that I was beginning to consistently run into tier 1 standard netdecks and extremely sweaty players.

    So I guess my question, which is addressed to anyone on this forum who is relatively new to the game (or anyone who has decided to start an account in a new region on a whim) and still progressing through the training ranks, so to speak, is this: is this your experience as well? Do you find yourself consistently queing into tryhards with tier 1 netdecks at ranks that are ostensibly supposed to provide a relatively gentle introduction to the ranked ladder? And if so, do you find this discouraging, or do you simply resolve to make a tier 1 deck of your own? 

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    posted a message on D5 to Legend - Any suggestions for making the climb?

    Ok, if they ignored you that's one thing. But they banned you from playing as well?

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    posted a message on D5 to Legend - Any suggestions for making the climb?
    Quote from Aleksandar777 >>

    Just dont complain to support team about freeze and disconnect bugs. First time i did that i was banned from playing and now, maybe thats just my view, but my winrate is about 20%. Have worst possible rng.

    And if you ask me did i get any help fixing those bugs, not a single hint what it can be.

    And i also have to mention that they were so rude all the time.

     You got banned for complaining about freeze and disconnect bugs? That doesn't sound right

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    posted a message on Odd Paladin Tips?

    Congrats!

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    posted a message on How is Darkglare warlock not a terrible deck?

    Surprisingly, or at least if this thread is to be believed, I don't recall queing into lock that much at mid to high legend (800-300) this month. Granted I haven't qued that many games, but most games I remember seem to have been against shaman, rogue, warrior, priest, and even paladin, with some mage and warlock matchups and the rare druid in the mix. Mostly I think it's been shaman, rogue, warrior, and lately more paladins. 

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    posted a message on D5 to Legend - Any suggestions for making the climb?
    Quote from NaweG >>

    Got up to D1 and 2 stars, and was thinking today might finally be the day. Queue up and get a Priest, as well as they get the coin. I mulligan hard, but no secrets in my initial cards or after mulligan. But I did have both Kabal Lackey's so figured it wouldn't be too bad. I then went 10 turns, and the only secret I got by then was the Rigged Faire - which was the one secret I didn't want with a hand full of cards needing a secret to activate.

    I know it's all in the "random" shuffle of the cards, but that one really hurt :-(

     

     Today could still very much be the day man, sometimes you just get screwed by RNG. Just don't let the bad luck get you down, it happens to everyone including the best players in the world. You are so close now, I really think you can get there today. If you need any help by all means hit me up. I was top 300 with secret mage as recently as 2 days ago, although I haven't qued at all since so I've definitely fallen down a bit.

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    posted a message on Free Coaching

    Kudos to you for doing this winky. I have thought about starting a thread like this myself, but I was uncertain whether I would be able to help everyone that would ask. With that said, as Murl0c put it, you have inspired me. If anyone that sees this thread asks winky for help and he is too busy or not available for whatever reason, I would be happy to try to help you. I have been high legend in standard and wild, and generally play to around d3-d5 once a month. Please send me a PM if you're interested and we can link up.

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    posted a message on I don’t care what class you’re playing...
    Quote from eskimodavid >>

    Lol I thought like this a while but the class can be tactical and fun, moreso than aggro decks 

     I think a lot of the frustration with priest is directed particularly at res priest in wild. I'm not sure how annoying the class is in standard since I haven't bothered with standard in like a year and a half, but res priest is unequivocally the least skilled and most toxic archetype in the game as far as I'm aware. Literally all you have to do is not die by turn 5 and then resurrect minions ad infinitum until your opponent can't remove them. No tactics or fun (at least not for the opponent) are involved in this mind numbingly braindead gameplay. I think that's a big part of why, whenever I see a poll about which class is hated the most, priest consistently seems to top the list.

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