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I just miss control warrior and Handlock of old, they were skillful decks that you really had to think your turns out.

These are the five tips I can give you towards mitigating your luck, and avoid being screwed by card draw.

1. Play a consistent deck if you want consistent draws

The majority of your deck shouldn't be combo reliant to work, and should be on the lower end of your curve, this usually means 2-4 One drops, 4 two drops, and 4 three drops, while alongside some cheap removal.

Silence Priest or Quest Rogue are combos decks, and are very prone to brick compared to more consistent decks that can play minions on curve, this usually leads to lower winrates overall based on that alone.

2. Mulligan phase

Keep key cards to what your deck is trying to achieve and what can help you in the match up, and always hard mulligan away 4+ cost cards if you don't have your early game.

3. Card Draw

Try to include some form of card draw in your deck if you aren't playing straight aggro, more draws leads to your deck thinning and finding your answers.

4. Card Generation

If you're playing a deck with any form of discover or card creating effects, this helps to keep your hand healthy, but also try to pick appropriate, which is usually a tempo card against aggro and something that can give more value against control.

5. Resources

Finally always try to get the most of the out your current hand, and don't be wasteful, this leads to you running out of steam extremely quick and getting run over if you're not careful, if you can effort to get as much value out of your minions and spells are possible as your opponents board will allow.

Finally fucking made it, and not with a smorc deck, it was with Elemental Control Shaman, really proud of myself for that.

Made it to Legend for the first time, really quite happy, was a real grind, lots of frustration (was trying all month) and probably won't go for it again. I used many different decks, but this deck took me smoothly from rank 4 to legend in two days.

The deck used does very very well against Pirate Warrior and Murloc Paladin, which is why I used it.

I'm really curious how you beat Midrange Hunter, they always run easily over me.

Pretty obvious that I main Rogue. I enjoy it head and shoulders above any other class in the game, I just wish it had more archetypes viable at high level.

I love combo heavy decks, but I try to also play control combo with Rogue sometimes.

The other thing I love is Rogue can't hide behind secrets like Mage can, every play Rogue makes has to be perfect to not just lose/die.

It's by far the most fun class in Arena as well.

Funny thing is even though Miracle Rogue is tier 1 at the moment, it's overall played less than Pirate Warrior, Jade Druid, Aggro Shaman, Reno Warlock, Dragon Priest, Reno Priest, except in Legend.

At least people won't complain about running into too many Rogues, but this might be why the class is not expanded on much.

I believe I've only drawn Patches twice in around 80 games of Miracle, I might be just lucky.

The odds of him showing up in your opening hand is 13%, which increases by roughly 3 percent for every card you mulligan, so you can somewhat decrease your odds by keeping cards.

If you mulligan him away, you have a 0% chance to get him back from the mulligan itself, but might still draw him turn 1 with low chances.

Rogue, Kappa.

because the mirror is silly.

May Yogg rot in the interdimensional abyss.

First off: This is NOT a salty thread. So please don't tell me to stop complaining. It's just an idea. I reach rank 5-2 on average so i know how to adapt. But it's a fact that this forum is flooded with people who are actually complaining about either aggro or control (like Reno or freeze mage) ruining the game. 

So how about this solution: Give players the option to choose between a 30-health mode and a (for example) 50-health mode.

The 50 health mode will be favored for midrange / control type decks. Players can go there to have longer and more thoughtful games, and not worry about losing to fast aggro decks in 3 turns without having a chance to react.

An alternative would be to start with 30 health and 10/20 armor, which would be better considering stuff like Reno Jackson and Alextraza.

The 30 health would be favored for aggro decks (like which is currently the case). Players can go there to have faster and more RNG based games, without winning vs control decks because they had no chance to react or losing because they draw the perfect removal at the perfect time.

Please tell me what you think about this idea, i'm open to feedback. I'm not saying it's perfect, it's just a quick idea and i know it has it's downsides, so please don't yell at me for 'not knowing what i'm talking about' : )

Quote from smaktest >>

Haha, you're damn right about the control-players complaining about aggro, but never heard an aggro-player complaining about control. So please don't trie to justify all of your whine-threads.

They are now control-alt-delete decks .......... padum tsssss (drum sound)

Everyone thinks that the rankes floors are making it MUCH MUCH easier to get legend for some reason, it actually does very little - it's only easie aound rank 5 and low 4 and if you can't win beyond that you won't get there anyway. 

There's simply just a lot of old players that are returning to the game because of the rotation removing a lot of cards that should never have been printed (Tunnel Trogg ect.) and then there's a lot of people that get to legend for their first time because the game is a lot more fun to play so you spend more time on it.  (I've talked with a lot of people that took a break during Gadgetzan and even some from the expansion before, they're all returning to the game because it's fun again - at least for now) 

Lol the value of hitting legend ... you mean the grind hitting legend is not skilful so removing the floor rank will in my opinion just make it more grindy 

lol you really think the rank 5 floor helps that much?  It doesn't.

I just went through your posts for almost a year (your entire hearthpwn history) and I gotta say, you bitch A LOT.  I don't think I saw one non-bitching post!  And it's been about how warrior is OP and that you can't beat them for almost that entire time!

Maybe it's time, man.  Maybe it's time to post something positive.  Say something nice about someone else's deck, that Ben Brode's rap made you smile, or that you had fun playing the game, once.  It might just change your life.  That's the power of love.

I started playing in April 2015., and boy has this game changed. Deceptively simple is no longer a deception, it is quite simple after all this time, but it's simple in a bad way nowadays.

I'm a Johnny type of player, i like decks with Summoning Stone, Hobgoblin and all sorts of wacky stuff. As the time went by, variations of decks that were both fun and wouldn't lose you 90% of the games dropped down, down and down. I still like to experiment, especially when the ladder floors are introduced and there's nothing to lose, but i rarely win more that 20% of the games with the decks i make. I don't consider myself an expert, but with 7000 won games (that's a lot played, especially with low win ratio decks) i do think i know a thing or two about the game and deckbuilding. Decks i make are neither too wacky nor too greedy to consider them totally hopeless to win any ranked games, but they are. When matched against most of the decks present today, they truly are.

I can't say i'm completely discouraged to experiment further, as i still see fun in the process itself, but getting wasted on turn 5 got a bit boring for Johnny's like myself.  Sure, i can understand the dumbification, there's money to be made and i can always play casual (though i can hardly understand the reasons for playing a tier 1 netdeck over there), but it saddens me a bit that they are turning more and more towards Spike player type and we will get less and less fun cards to play around with and at least sometimes have a satisfaction of winning a game with them.

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Yeah you're right the game has gotten pretty boring, because there is no diversity. I actually made a thread about this, because I felt that there were some things that could be done. I still wanna give Team 5 the benefit of the doubt, but they have been pushing these simple to play decks to no end. I mean I get having simple decks in the game, but having them be Tier 1 is just ridiculous. If you don't want to invest time to learn the game you shouldn't have the chance to reach the higher ranks. I find the dev team's lack of balls disturbing tbh. I am not saying print 135 complicated cards that you can't understand without a PhD, but come on. At least give people who care about this stuff a few complicated cards per expansion that can lead to competitive decks. I really think Blizzard can fix this they just need to get their heads out of their asses. I can't accept the "OTK decks are bad for the game because they kill you in one turn" or the "absolutely everybody needs to be able to understand absolutely everything about the cards by just glancing at them". I would understand these points if they could make interesting decks without having OTK decks and more skill-testing cards, but they can't do that so why not experiment some more (they would only need to invest a small amount of an expansion's cards to do it). Unfortunately most of the players are casuals who don't care about these things and Blizzard will cater to them (because money), which means that the situation is unlikely to change.

Quote from SleepTurtle >>

cancer community here.

control and greedy deck= skill.

aggro, otk,combo,tempo,burn & jade . Cancer deck. Zero skills.

30 legendary deck.

pay player- this deck so skillful and hard to play. F2p & pay little $ player- pay to win. The concept skill is really sick & irrelevant in this forum. They just refuse to learn wan to enjoy free win using pay to win golden legendary deck. They complain about everything that beat they greedy game plan.