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Quote from IDProG123 >>

I like how people here are anti-stats, while people in the other threads, especially the thread made by a guy who reached Legend with Control Warrior, talk greatly about stats.

It's as if there are two completely different and opposite circles in one community.

Either that or you are just pretentious hypocrites.

A lot of my suggestions, while just an opinion, are based on stats. Mankrik and Warsong Wrangler specifically.

Admittedly, I didn't look very sharply at the stats before suggesting the other three nerfs, but for Lilypad Lurker, I chose that because it was unnecessarily buffed.

I'm going to revise my list here and change the cards need to be nerfed:

Skull of Gul'dan to either Deathspeaker Blackthorn or Illidari Inquisitor, more on the latter. The latter can have a ridiculous win rate of 75% if played.

Next time, before calling someone "sore loser because you lose a match", actually back your arguments.

 Imagine being this dense 

I know you're a sore loser. I'm not a troll, and my post history shows that. You got beat. I know you're doing the whole "high route" bit, but you're already exposed for being what you are. Whether I'm being ignored or not, I definitely don't care.

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Quote from SHURE >>

 Warsong wrangler is so slow.. this is simply another one of those posts where certain cards defeated you, and now ya gotta cut some cards heads off. Even though your post looks well thought out, and intellectually sound while you're reading it. That's all this post is. That's all this forum is.

I respect your opinion, but how about elaborating more?

Like I said before, Warsong Wrangler has one of the highest win rates in Face Hunter deck, and I think we can all agree that Face Hunter is OP and a card or two must be nerfed.

Statistical data is on my side. What is on yours?

 You don't though. Stats aren't on your side. You got beat.

 Warsong wrangler is so slow.. this is simply another one of those posts where certain cards defeated you, and now ya gotta cut some cards heads off. Even though your post looks well thought out, and intellectually sound while you're reading it. That's all this post is. That's all this forum is.

It is kinda sad reading through some of the earlier comments. Back to OP's post though I will say I get a variety of cards from archdruid.. so idk

Edit: actually really sad 

Telling everyone what to do won't work

Quote from 3nnu1 >>

That is because it is not random. 

 It is though

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Quote from I_Feel_Ur_Pain >>

I wouldn’t it does what the card says play around it or get fucked . End of discussion 

 classic forum boi right here... nothing of value... only here to expose his level of ignorance 

 He's not wrong

I wouldn't. This crying for nerfs all the time lately feels like a cousin of cancel culture.. blizzard already did their usual roundup of nerfs after an expansion dropped. Adapt and move on. Also, no I do not play pally.... I just see it for what it is

This is where we're at 🙃

Quote from TwistedCardmaster >>

So they essentially just killed Warlock in standard. Runed Mithril Rod for 4 mana is simply unplayable. Nerfed The Demon Seed is not only too slow by itself (probably comparable to Seek Guidance) but it will also slow down Flesh Giant by another 2 turns, so Warlock will die to both aggro and midrange, before he has any chance to play his counter pressure (not to mention he has to deal more self-damage now).

 

 Good

Why do they announce a patch announcement??? Why not just tell us what the nerfs are already? Why be coy? Are they shy? Indecisive? Why can’t they just come out with it?

Enough with the endless teases and “reveal hype.” Just fix the game!

This is a lot of work for such a pointless post

It feels like I'm in a minority here when I say that I don't feel compelled to buy a product as soon as its revealed. Or buy every new thing on impulse to complete my collection or something? Pre-purchasing a product before it's officially launched is always a bad idea. I've almost never bought a game before it's release. There's always problems at launch. They fix them and then later often reduce the price, too.

This conversation is only going to go sour if we start saying that Blizzard is greedy or predatory for offering this. They absolutely have a right to do business how they please. But we as consumers have a right to not purchase them. That's how it's always been.

I'm not saying that Blizzard is free of sin or has never done anything wrong, (because obviously they have), but who is actually responsible for an individual person's choices?

People are going to dump hours into complaining about this on Reddit, sites like this etc.

I'll save all that time and do more productive things, wait for the mode to drop, have a play and then if its shit, I might have a moan and move on or just move on. It may not be something I enjoy and you know what...... That's OK! Not everything has to cater to me, not everything has to be to my taste or liking, I've never touched classic mode, want to know how often I've whinged about it? Never...... 

The quicker certain little snowflakes understand that not everything and everyone is focused on them as individuals and not everything revolves around their particular likes and dislikes, the quicker people can just get on with enjoying what they enjoy. The world can't always look after you, sometimes you have to own decisions you make and if you have problems with addiction etc, put measures in to protect yourself, don't demand that the world change for you. 

I have no idea how relevant cash bought things will be. I don't really understand the mode fully at this point. No point spending the next 6 weeks complaining about it though. I'll find out then and make a decision about whether it's a mode that interests me or warrants my time. 

If you feel like you have to buy everything this company produces but you cannot afford to, that is very much a YOU problem.

Blizzard's (any company's) only reason for existing is to produce products and sell them. It is the consumer's job to exercise restraint and not buy every car on the sales lot, every candy bar in the checkout display, every stick of furniture at Ikea.

And no, you can't hide behind "compulsiveness" as a defense. If you truly have a personality disorder, it's up to you to stay away from things that trigger it. It is not some random company's job to babysit your mental problems.

The idea that Blizzard is doing something wrong by offering merchandise to the public is the dumbest idea that keeps reappearing on these forums.

Wasn't trying to spark a debate on which platform is better - I've just never used Twitch before, so I was hoping to simply use Youtube, which I've already linked to my battlenet account for drops during GM.

The above announcement said both platforms would have the reveal, so just wanted to know if I could get drops there, too.

If not, I guess I'll set up a Twitch account. No big deal.

that nerf to flesh giant sure worked . . . . . . still won this game but what a joke still able to double drop them turn 4.

Quote from Finalstan >>

What are your thoughts?

It doesn't effect much of what I'm doing these days. I think it's all fair. Not too crazy, maybe just right?

People will nevertheless be impossible to satisfy with nerfs, so I think the approach of making small changes and seeing how it goes is just fine.

I think everyone tends to underestimate the impact 1 mana can make on a card, even if the stats are changed to match it. We'll no doubt see the rise of new decks to challenge everyone's patience and be the topic of discussion until the next round of nerfs.

Spin the wheel! Who'll it be this time...!