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of course it's not about winrate, it's just that there is no interaction while playing against it, you draw then you stall a lil bit, once you have the cards you need, you play Flash of Lightning and next turn you otk.
Yes at legend rank is a bad deck but legend players are a minority, most of players are casual bronze/gold players and at those ranks this deck is problematic.
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Quote from DemonicPlushie >>The deck has sub 48% winrate in top 1k, it is not an "extremely good deck" in any sense of the word. Blizzard as usual is nerfing it because people whined about it despite it being a C tier deck.
You keep posting this winrate number... however, I would counter that is a facile statistic, in this regard.
The deck requires a very specific manner of play... and if someone comes from a different class/different playstyle and tries to pilot this deck incorrectly, they are going to lose, and lose a lot.
Seeing as netdecking, "the next hot thing" is rather in vogue, and this very site EXISTS to promote that sort of behavior, it stands to reason that at least some percentage of that disagreeable win rate has come from folks who do not possess the proper temperament and/or capacity to properly operate this deck.
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Idk what these haters are talking about, this got me through diamond no problem, thanks for the paladin buster :) very fun and simple to pilot
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such a cool deck to put these 'meta skill' players to their right place :) got my first legend on it! tysm
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Biggest mistake is the removal of content in form of buddies, quests and prizes
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You may have just build it and I have only played a couple of games with it but this is my favourite standard shaman deck right now!
This is a well thought out,well built deck and its fun to play.
The fact that I won both games doesn't mean much...the first was a comeback win against DK and the second against Warrior.
But as I stated before its a lot of fun to play and not a chore which some shaman decks seem to be to me.
So thanks for building it and even if I don't win many games wit it, I will still enjoy playing it!
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Better card draw than Warlock
More Armor than Warrior
Better ability to stall than Priest/Mage
Better board than Shaman/Hunter
More removal than Warlock/Priest
More cheat than any class
way too powerful in Standard
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There's like 15 quest rewards that seem to be secret rewards for me. I literally never see them.
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as a warlock main let me tell you a secret about this card:
this card can goes to zero mana (new minion or Tamsin)
the shadows are 5 mana minions, if you Sacrificial Summoner this it pulls out Kaelthas from your deck.
the whole thing means you have a 3 mana Kaelthas ready for combo wombo
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Yes, its cause I replaced the wrong card in the list. Fixed it now)
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This. Absolutely correct. You need to know exactly when to clear and when to go face with this deck. It takes skill to feel the deck.
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How can you not draw flash of lightning? 1/3 of your deck are cards that generates it? I bet you are playing it completely wrong. You easily control the board for 4-5 turns, while dealing minor damage and drawing pieces. Then you take damage 2 turns, while setting up for you last turn. This is an extremely consistent deck. Nothing is casino about it. Sorry, completely disagree with you, and I played it from D5 to 9k legend, climbed around 6000 in legend too with ease.
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And now Blizzard is nerfing 2 cards from this deck. I am affraid they are gonna kill it...
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Ehm, no. Please try before you make assumptions. Paladin needs to play all his buff cards first, while you are gathering pieces. Usually you control the board until turn 4-5. You have great board clears and easy access to Hex after. I never lost to a single paladin. Only agro hunters are the problem really. I even killed a few warriors with 10+ armor lately
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Kangor deck is a meme. Why nerf a non-meta defining card? Paladin has no removal tools vs hard agro. Warlock on the other hand has both removal and can pump out huge minions from 4-5 mana that keep auto resummoning giant after giant after giant.. To me warlock and DK look like first candidates to be nerfed
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The nerf makes hunter deck totally unplayable. Killing your opponent by turn 7 before and turn 9-10 now is too huge of a difference. Denatrius change is bad only for all other classes but druid. Druid doesnt care, he plays it with brann anyway
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Same. I have 2300h in BG's. Have probably 7,5k in HS since release. Have wife, kid, good Job, plenty of time doing other hobbies. The key here is playing while working, walking, eating, shitting or watching TV. This game is perfectly suited for that
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If it is neutral card, its obvious sir D that is getting nerfed. He will probably lose his basic "deal 5".
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This deck needs to be nerfed to oblivion, not buffed! It is completely uninteractive, the damage you get is almost infinite and unavoidable. That is really bad deck design. The only good thing against it is hyper agro. Control needs to sit with the full hand and burn their cards. Terrible game experience. Horrible design!