Hearthpwn

"RNG"

This fucking kid got - first 12 cards. Not in this exact order.

Both fireballs, Antonidas, both forgotten torches, both roaring torches, frostbolt, both flamewakers(who hit my brann twice when there was another minion on board), both unstable portals (from which he got a berserker and some other bullshit)...how the fuck is that random?

Next match - Rogue - 

First 10 cards - Deadly poison, leper gnome, brann, double abusive sargeant, si-7, backstab, piloted shredder. What the fuck is with that godly RNG? I couldn't remove the shit quick enough. 

I swear to fuck these cuntwads are manipulating the fucking RNG. No fucking way their RNG is so goddamn unbelievably fucking perfect.

On a win-streak...lose to a kid playing zoo..who got a perfect draw.

*sigh*...I feel like a majority of people playing this game wouldn't even compare to a mentally handicapped chimp if the two were to take an IQ test..play something that requires more thought than just "derp..me see card, me play card, me go face, me win."

This guy musts be RNGesus' fucking little cumguzzling bitch. Not only was his RNG godly, mine was utter shit.

Warlock's draw seems legit - literally his first 8 cards -

Double void caller, knife juggler, double dire wolf, implosion, Dr. Boom, power overwhelming. 

Literally nothing I could do against that level of BS. I would hope the cuntwad warlock got cock cancer, but you can't wish for someone to get cancer in something they don't have. 

This is why I fucking rage - this BS EVERY. GODDAMN. MATCH. Then I freeze his boom, he has a goddamn motherfucking cocksucking owl to silence it and lethal me. How the motherfuck do they get such amazing RNG? Meanwhile, I have at least 17 cards below 4 mana and draw out none of them but the most useless, shittiest ones, or I draw out my late game - of which I have maybe 7.

If I were outplayed - fine. I am losing to fucking BS goddamn RNG almost every match, that - or cancer with perfect rng.

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The new priest deck is such cheese. They should just rename the priest class to "Archthief Rafaam." 

Entomb is a bullshit card, and they always fucking have it in the first 10 cards of their deck. Hopefully that card gets nerfed to shit. 

Mathematically there is a higher chance than 50% to get it in the first 10 cards. 10 cards= 1/3 of your deck. You have two copies of it. To draw one equals 2/3 of your deck = 66,6%. The chance for them to have 1 Entomb in the first 10 cards is 66,6%. Nothing to complain about.

 "Within" the first 10 cards, not AS the 10th card. They aren't topdecking it with 20 cards left in their deck, it's always in their hand already. Also, 1/3 of the deck, not 2/3 - so it would be 33.3% if they topdecked it as the tenth card. Since it's actually always in their hand by the 10th card, it's actually less than 33%. So yes, it's something to complain about. Regardless of that, the card is still fucking bullshit. 

 How did you come to the conclusion that i meant topdecking?

Ok, lets get this going again:

If Priest has 1 Entomb in Hand or in play within the first 10 cards, that means he has drawn 1/3 of his deck.

The chances for him to have this card are therefor 33,3%

Since he has 2 copies of it and not 1, his chances double to draw it. Therefor his chances to draw at least one Entomb in the first 10 cards are 66,6%. That means he would be unlucky to not have it in the first 10 cards, since the chance to have it is way over 50%.

Do you understand it now? Sry for the confusion btw.

 You're a bit wrong, tbf, but you're close. Assuming that the priest mulls for it aggressively, and that they're on the play, so 3 cards in the mulligan: ~36.5% to see an entomb by then (1-(28/30*27/29*26/28*25/27*24/26*23/25), as you can't have a card mulliganned away coming back). As for the rest, you've got 3 cards taken out, which are not entombs, so it's 7 draws to see an entomb, which I make a 45.9% chance to see one, ignoring the mulligan phase. Overall, that puts the odds of seeing an entomb as 65.7% ((1-((25/27*24/26*23/25*22/24*21/23*20/22*19/21)*(28/30*27/29*26/28*25/27*24/26*23/25))). Unless I've screwed that up, of course.

As for why your base assumptions are wrong: try calculating it for seeing an entomb by the time he's got 15 cards left. Seen half his deck, so naturally it's 50% if he has one in the deck, 100% if he's got two from your logic. Doesn't seem *quite* right :P

1) Yes. Roping on purpose is supposedly "immoral" in terms of the Hearthstone community "morals." That being said, playing a cheese deck that requires no more intellect than that mustered up by a severely mentally handicapped chimp, and winning because it utilizes a card that is grossly unbalanced isn't exactly strategic or fun for anyone - unless your only goal is to win by the easiest means possible, and you find clicking cards without any actual thought "fun." They're doing it to play quick games to get to legend - and making anyone trying to be original miserable in the process. By roping them, you're potentially saving some other poor unfortunate soul from having to deal with the mindless BS that is secret paladin. Essentially, you're suffering to potentially increase the pleasure of others - it's a selfless act. Plus, if secret paladins get roped enough, maybe they'll try playing a deck that requires at least a minute degree of brain usage to win with.

2) no.

3) No, the end result is the same regardless of motivation. In many cases, such as this, I don't think the motivation matters - only the end result, and whether that result is good or bad. 

This is the type of bullshit I lose to almost every game. 

Savage fucking combatant always in the top 10 too. 

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The new priest deck is such cheese. They should just rename the priest class to "Archthief Rafaam." 

Entomb is a bullshit card, and they always fucking have it in the first 10 cards of their deck. Hopefully that card gets nerfed to shit. 

 but is it actually good?

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The new priest deck is such cheese. They should just rename the priest class to "Archthief Rafaam." 

Entomb is a bullshit card, and they always fucking have it in the first 10 cards of their deck. Hopefully that card gets nerfed to shit. 

Mathematically there is a higher chance than 50% to get it in the first 10 cards. 10 cards= 1/3 of your deck. You have two copies of it. To draw one equals 2/3 of your deck = 66,6%. The chance for them to have 1 Entomb in the first 10 cards is 66,6%. Nothing to complain about.

The new priest deck is such cheese. They should just rename the priest class to "Archthief Rafaam." 

Entomb is a bullshit card, and they always fucking have it in the first 10 cards of their deck. Hopefully that card gets nerfed to shit. 

I just played against a cancer warrior. 

Double ship cannons, charge +2, mortal strike, bloodsail corsair, fiery waraxe, and the 2/3 weapon that deals double damage to your hero....all in the top 10 cards of his deck. 

Meanwhile I get no healbot, no reno.

The bullshit continues, after playing yet another perfect RNG opponent - I play a shaman who gets mistcaller in the top 9 cards of his deck. Followed by every imaginable legendary a shaman would play, followed by Neptulon who gives him a bunch of 1-2 mana murlocs with old murk eye. 

This shit just does not seem legitimate to me. Meanwhile I play ysera and get a goddamn laughing sister. I am speechless at how epic this bullshit has been in the last day. Almost every opponent has perfect rng - while I, who has 20 cards that cost 4 mana or less...almost always draw out my late game in the opening of the game.

This cockwad priest has the nerve to BM after getting a double cleric, power word shield opener with shadow word pain to kill my minions.

Then to top it off he has this exact combo in his hand on turn 5 - has cleric and deathwarden out - lightwarden, velen's on lightwarden, power word shield on lightwarden, circle of healing - so his lightwarden is at 13 attack 8 health.

The next 3 turns - No bgh, neither polymorph. This fuckface drew half his deck by turn 5, and I was helpless. Total bullshit. 

I lost 11 games in a row now, each and every goddamn motherfucking cuntwad opponent has had RNG so fucking perfect I swear they're using a program to handpick what to draw and when.

Druids getting combo in top 12 cards, cancer decks getting perfect answers and lethal in top half of deck..No matter what I draw, no matter how good my start, their start is always a perfect counter. Every time I imagine the perfect card they could have within the first draw...they have that card.

Priests with double entomb with 17 cards left in deck, double power word of shield for their cleric, you name it...my opponent has the perfect card for that turn, or the perfect counter. What the actual fuck?

 Not to mention the disgusting, unstoppable diarrhea tide that ladder is - cancer fucking aggro decks EVERY MATCH. If not cancer, druid with perfect draw. PERFECT DRAW. What are the best cards a druid could get 10 cards in? He will have every fucking goddamn one. I don't even know what the fuck to do anymore.

Mage with ysera - why not get FUCKING DOUBLE NIGHTMARE BACK TO BACK FOR LETHAL. WHY. THE. FUCK. 
NOT?!?! He has no answer to Alex - Nightmare his 4/3...next turn - Nightmare again for lethal. What is my RNG even?