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When I first started I had a difficult time finding the “concede” option and didn’t know it was there. Further, with the ability to play from our phones, who’s to say your opponent didn’t get an important call that precluded his ability to concede. I don’t think it’s worth caring about. It’s only a game.

 What is Whizbang's hero power?

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Bone Drake is a DRAGON, you fool. Notice how it has the word DRAKE in the title? If that were to go through, then Sindragosa would also be affected, since she also is an Undead minion, albeit one that's also a Dragon. 

 But that's his point? It's an inconsistency: Bone Drake and Bonemare are both skeletal beings, and yet Bone Drake has a tribal tag while Bonemare does not. If you want to argue semantics, "mare" is right in the title: mares are horses, aka Beasts.

 The thing is Bone Drake was a Dragon in life, he is still a Dragon now, he LOOKS like one. If it walks and talks like a duck, then guess what? It's a duck. There is not enough going against Bone Drake to make it lose it's Dragon archetype. You'd have to make the same argument for Sindragosa, since she is also a Dragon. Note how similar the art to both cards are. But since they have Dragon bodies, and sound like Dragons, then guess what? They're Dragons

 

 

Wait...he's a drake...so you are saying he's a duck as well as a dragon? I see what you did there! 😜

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...they need to go back to one awesome deal you can only buy once, this just straight up screams money grab)? 

OK, help me understand why trying to make money off of their investment in this game is a bad thing. Do cheaper boosters decrease the value of the cards you already own? There is no secondary market, so I have to say "no". If anything, it increases the pool of cards that all players have, thereby allowing more even footing and (therefore) more players able to compete at a higher level. Why is that bad? Blizzard can't just give stuff away all the time and not make any money on this product. Companies that do that go out of business.

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MTG is a very different game from Hearthstone - Paper MTG costs hundreds of dollars, but idk about MTG Arena.  However, yes, it is easy to get into, but very hard to master.  Even the aggro decks require a decent amount of skill - you can't just "go face" as easily.  I'd recommend watching gameplay of it to get the hang of it, and see if you'd be interested.

This doesn't sound like an issue with your deck needing tech cards as much as how much impact these tech cards are having on your deck. If the tech cards impact your deck so much then you will have problems. Does that mean these cards should not exist?

Weapon removal, silence, Polymorph/Hex/Tinkmaster Overspark have always existed, so that's not new. Skulking Geist is new(ish), and is fairly specific in what it impacts, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. I suppose the real question (and you kind of ask this) is whether you think these cards impact the meta more NOW than they did originally.

Traditional CCGs (non-online) had their tech cards, but you wouldn't see them much until tournaments. In M:tG you'd see them in the form of a side deck. With You-Gi-Oh! everyone packed Mystical Space Typhoon and other "staples". One of the nice things about Hearthstone is there are fewer "staples" per se (cards you see in EVERY deck no matter the strategy), although there are definitely some cards that are more popular than others. (Blizzard has tried to "Hall of Fame" cards they perceived as having become staples.) I think what you are asking is whether there are new staples in Hearthstone in the form of tech cards and whether such should be encouraged.

I don't know if I have an answer, but it's my belief that removing one staple will lead to new cards that fill the gap. The same is true of nerfing; one nerf leads to a new deck taking being Tier 1 and people calling for a new nerf. It is the nature of the beast.

TL;DR: If you want to be competitive, plan on tech-ing because strategy means understanding your opponent well enough that you can counter his win condition while still meeting your own. If you just want to play for run then play a friend as people on the ladder want to win and will play accordingly.

This seems like a silly question, but...

Why won’t Genn’s effect work with quests as long as they start in your opening hand? Genn’s effect goes off after you have your opening hand, so the quest won’t be in the deck. Genn’s text reads, “if your deck” which is the same text on the Prince cards. Will the Princes' effects not work if you have a same-cost card in your hand at the time you play them? (This needs to be tested.)

I’m assuming the inference is your hand is part of your deck, which begs the question of how this understanding impacts cards with similar effects. I’m pretty certain Raza (and other highlander cards) didn’t look at your hand and it also says “if your deck”. I agree it appears to work as intended, but not necessarily as the text implies.

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Good reason for Shaman to dust off the Earth Shocks.

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Here's something that has really helped my friends out and what I always suggest. The card packs aren't really awful considering what they could be. Sometimes you get a few packs in a row that are unlucky, but it's not often that you get a whole bunch of packs in a row without obtaining at least an epic. That being said, My suggestion would be getting good at arena. This is something I did so that I could obtain more packs faster. If you manage 7+ wins, you have pretty much obtained another free arena roll+ at least 1 card pack for participating. The arena system is really easy to do well at if you're decent at the game. To add on, there are a lot of budget variants of decks that perform nearly to the level of the standard versions. I'd suggest looking into those. I disenchant all cards I get that aren't ever going to be played because I want to be able to craft what I need. Just takes a bit of time. :-) Keep working at it.

HS boosters cost $1 and you are guaranteed at least one rare. MTG boosters used to cost $3-$4 each (it has been a while) and you’d get a rare, three uncommon, and 10-12 commons.

If you buy three boosters of HS you get at least three rare and 12 commons. Seems to be about equal.

It seems we get a booster with multiple rare (typically two) every other booster and an epic about every 8th. Roughly. Typically get a legendary some time between 20-30 (mileage may vary, and earlier for first legendary after a set is initially released).

I think the parity with MTG is about right as MTG used to only have so many chase cards per set as well, and typically rare. The nice aspects of HS include (1) you can dust extra cards or those you don’t need to craft new cards (whereas physical card games can’t offer this, and if you buy cards the costs are ridiculous due to scarcity), and (2) you only have 30 card decks and not 60 with a cap at two copies needed and not four.

I’ve played MANY CCGs (since Jyhad) and HS is the most practical and cost effective, unless you want to count LCGs, which are largely CCGs that have fallen out of favor.

Perspective

As for your Arena comments, you are correct.  There are many ways to play without spending a ton of money. People just need to be creative and otherwise expect to invest TIME instead.

Just my opinion, FWIW.

 

 >the costs of physical card games are ridiculous due to scarcity

 

I can go out and buy everything I need for a championship winning Yugioh deck for $300, and it can make me actual money.

And buying sealed product I can buy a sealed box and be guaranteed two secret rares and 4 ultra, and it costs ~$50.

I can spend $300 in hearthstone and not even get one of the legendaries I need for a deck because I'm only guaranteed six. For $50 I'm guaranteed one legend and four Epics. And if they are ones I don't need or want, I can only choose to DE them for 1/4 their value.

 

Physical TCG is much more lenient and easier to handle than Hearthstone is, especially since they don't, as OP said, stuff every single good card into the highest rarities and force you to have an entire deck of costly cards.

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guys , in my opinion : If you buy packs then you can complain about almost everything, simply because thanks to your money the game is going forward . 

If you are not the one who buy packs and u are pure free to play then take the game how it is and stop complaining about every card and every expansion and be nice to those who give u free legendary , and free packs , and why ? to be honest just because blizzard dont need you , blizzard dont need free to play players . every game company need players who will spend some money on the games . if the game is in store than buy it and they love you and can create more. if the game is free to download then u have micro transactions here and blizzard need players who will be stupid like me and buy the packs . otherwise there will be no hearthstone without players money.

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Dunno, I'm buying not more then 15-30 packs at each expansion release (and near 30 packs with gold) , and allways have 3-4 top meta decks, which give me possibility to play tournaments and take legend each month.

Yes, Hearthstone is expensive now for newcomers if you want to get resulting ladder climb fast, but if you are playing more then year and not a fan of collecting sets and goldens, it is not a problem to craft top meta decks.

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Here's something that has really helped my friends out and what I always suggest. The card packs aren't really awful considering what they could be. Sometimes you get a few packs in a row that are unlucky, but it's not often that you get a whole bunch of packs in a row without obtaining at least an epic. That being said, My suggestion would be getting good at arena. This is something I did so that I could obtain more packs faster. If you manage 7+ wins, you have pretty much obtained another free arena roll+ at least 1 card pack for participating. The arena system is really easy to do well at if you're decent at the game. To add on, there are a lot of budget variants of decks that perform nearly to the level of the standard versions. I'd suggest looking into those. I disenchant all cards I get that aren't ever going to be played because I want to be able to craft what I need. Just takes a bit of time. :-) Keep working at it.

Corrupted Seer saw play, but not as much, that's true.  However, this fellow has a MUCH bigger butt, so he has a better chance of surviving once played, and he doesn't do 2 damage, he flat out destroys stuff. More like the Shadow Word: Horror with a beefy body attached. Don't know how much of a difference that will make, but being able to drop him on Turn 6 will make Paladin Dude decks think twice before spamming the board without buffs to play immediately.

Go “Bacon & Eggs” by adding piggies with charge and any eggs still in the meta. 🍳

Very interesting and original. I like it!