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    posted a message on Are there decent decks without the last 3 expansions ?
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    A standard deck that doesn't use any of the last 3 expansions... Isn't that all of Standard with the exception of Basic, and Classic?

    I'd say some variation of Combo Priest is the only thing that will get you anywhere. Most of the current meta is heavily saturated with the last expansion.

     Nope. Last three expansions is expansions from year of Dragon, but we still have expansions from year of Raven (or at least for next month or probably less). + Interesting is if he consider Galakronds package as 2 expansions or only one. Becose then he could choose from first lackey expansion and build Token (mech) Druid, Murloc Shaman or Murloc Paladin (probably even more, as most of core cards from off decks was in first expanse).

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    posted a message on Are there decent decks without the last 3 expansions ?

    I think Combo priest, Zoo lock or any other archetype which don't relly on expansion cards. + Probably any control deck which you are able build. (Maybe priest on top.) But it is still stupid idea to play only with little you have now. Better to go for some budget deck.

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    posted a message on Current state of the meta

    Broken over top was Galakrond Shaman.

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    posted a message on Current state of the meta

    I somehow missing choice Fun and balanced. (Like if all class have access to something unbalanced it is balanced on the end.)

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    posted a message on Worst legendary you have ever crafted?
    Quote from Oireal >>

    Leeroy Jenkins is one of the most powerful cards ever printed! A 5 mana fireball attached to a minion you can buff is really good. Classes are purposely designed in specific ways, like how Warlock is supposed to have little burst damage (which is why Doomguard was moved to HoF). Leeroy breaks that pattern and gives classes access to burn damage they shouldn't have. He's a finisher that can fit in almost every Aggro deck or Midrange deck. For reference, he used to cost 4 mana, but was nerfed, and is still sooooo good. Don't sleep on Leeroy

     You don't get what i am saying. I am not saying he don't have abilities about which you talking, i am talking about how powerfull is card standalone. And there are only few worse standalone cards. (And because they are not played i didn't craft them either.)

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    posted a message on Worst legendary you have ever crafted?

    Leeroy Jenkins

    Just think about him, his stats are terrible. Nobody use him as anything else then +1mana cost fireball.

    (But i still hope he will go to HoF.)

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    posted a message on Expedite Priest changes.
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    Control decks have existed since the beginning and I see no reason to make them unplayable just because they take longer to play against. If you are really worried about your wins per hour, or whatever time frame you play by, just concede against the control decks should they appear to be stabilizing. If you're playing against more control decks then normal, try switching up your deck strategy. 

     Control decks have always tended to last around 10-20 turns. Not 25-50.

    They've always had powerful draw mechanics. Res Priest has literally zero draw spells, but games still go to full fatigue. And that's after using cards to extend the deck to 40+ cards.

    And this isn't an attempt at an argument with the population of snivelling retards on this forum about the specifics of the deck. Regardless of what nonsense all the dumb replies spout, the deck's getting nerfed. I just want it to happen sooner.

     Yeah i totally agree.. Remember control warriors. Everybody know after turn 10-20 they lost and just concede against him, but this time we have ress priest where you never know if you outvalue him on the end, or no.

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    posted a message on "Created by"

    Nope.

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    posted a message on Heroic Galakrond's Awakening Juggler Priest

    "Get me out of here." is my new nightmare. (Thx.)

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    posted a message on How hard is it to hit legend nowadays?
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     Good grief. Again, my argument, which consists of me making the point that legend requires skill, time, and dedication to achieve, does not make presumptions. Me presuming that you and elnur are lower ranked has no direct correlation to aforementioned argument, it's just an off the cuff observation that I'm making bc both of you seem like you don't know what you're talking about. As for your feeling that you would mop the floor with legend players in arena, you're certainly entitled to feel however you like. That doesn't mean your feeling is even remotely realistic/true tho. The primary problem I see with your argument is that you're not couching anything you're saying in logic or rationale or experience. You're just saying you think and feel stuff, but you can't back any of it up. Plenty of people make mistakes sure, you see it all the time at high rank. What separates the best players from very good or average players is that they make less mistakes on average: they are more consistent. Also, you took my assertion of you saying "any legend player [could be] mediocre" out of context, and it doesn't misinterpret your argument at all. You said legend players "can even be pretty mediocre". That's a direct quote. I said it's difficult to make the case that any legend players are mediocre bc they are the top 0.1 percent of all players. No contradiction or presumption there.  
     

     I would react untraditional from end to start...

    Ok we can assume i maid presumption and you maid presumption. Than i just ask, why the hell are you react on something out of context. Or why else would you argument... On my "legends can be mediocre players" by answering "all legends can't be mediocre". Becose i was presumptional only becosei  thought it was reaction to context and not some random sentence just to write at least something close to the theme. (Like hey, global warming can cause lost of house to sea... Yeah? But people in Tibet are pretty safe.)

    Nevermore... pointless to prolonging who is presumptional.

    And to the point...

    Everybody base on feeling, nobody have hardproof data of how much people in legend are people without misstakes, with few misstakes, with lots of misstakes... SO there definitely is not way to base information on other basis then are our feels/knowledge. And each of us would have different feels/knowledge, becose we all live different lives.

    For me it more like... I was once legends and it was so hard for me, pleas stop letting fown value of my achievment. Man, it doesn't matter how others looks on it, if you feel like it was achievment, then it was achievment for you. For me is for example achievment which i am proud of beating Rastakhan Rumble with hunter overkill cost reduce, even if nobody else five it value.

    So now i am maybe presumptional, but ve honest to yourself... When you wrote "That doesn't mean your feeling is even remotely realistic/true tho." didn't you in real just completly denied my idea about how being legend does not neccesery mean you should be proud of your game skill in HS? And it is about everything what i wrote... If you want just completly denny all what i write you definetly can. But please stop transform meaning of words back in time... Like hey i didn't meaned it like absolutly denny. It should be more like... You are not close, becose it is something and it will be something. Which i would agree it is something. Not everybody have legend. But i still say on the same time... That this something mean almost same to nothing if its primary meaning you are skillfull master in game is almost nonexistent.

     Ok, this is clearly a language barrier issue. You don't know what I mean when I say you took something out of context and you may not know what presumption means. To be honest I'm not entirely sure what you're attempting to say in general with this last post, but I do want to say a few things to try to address what I think you're saying. To start with, this is not personal to me. The points I've made thus far were not made to attempt to defend myself or what an achievement in a game means to me. I don't need to validate what achieving legend means to you. What I've said is an honest representation of my perspective, which I've substantiated with my own experience, knowledge, and logic. Where I take issue is that you and one or two others are attempting to speak on said achievement when you ostensibly have no experience, factual evidence, or convincing reasoning to legitimize anything you're saying. You can't say you know what it's like to get to legend bc you've never gotten to legend, you can't provide statistics to prove your argument bc they directly contradict it (if legend is so easy how is that only 0.1 percent of the player base is there?), and the best rationale you could up with to support your argument is "I saw some players in legend on streams and I didn't think they were good". In sum, you have no experience, you have no evidence, and your logic is weak and predicated solely on your opinion. I'm sorry if you can't understand everything that I'm saying, but I hope the main theme of it comes across here.

     

     Presumption is guessing for others or?

    Than sorry, i really felt like you i hit you somewhere where it hurt, which i definitely didn't aim. Like i want just argue about why i have my opinion on this theme like this...

    But, there is no value in arguing by "You can't prove i am wrong!", when you can't prove you are right either. Or how is your experience more valuable than my? Are you better human? I don't get it. (Or do you want say. Living here where i live is definitely good place to live. Why? Becose i live here. And you will never prove me wrong. Muhahaha!!! Or at least this is how i picture you.:-D)

    And yes it is my best argument, as videos of actual misstakes are better proof than... Huh, could there be better evidence?

     

     

     This is kind of a pointless argument at this stage, and it kinda feels like you're trolling tbh. I've demonstrated multiple times at length why my argument is superior to yours. My experience is more relevant than yours bc I have it firsthand (meaning I've been thru the grind to get legend and you haven't) and you don't. If you can't understand this extremely simple principle then, again, there's no reason to continue this conversation. I acknowledge it may be a language issue, but what I'm saying is not difficult to understand. My logic is superior to yours bc it's based on actual empirical evidence (read: statistics), common sense, and the direct experience I just mentioned, whereas yours is based on what you think and literally nothing else. If you can't understand what I mean than I suggest you refrain from posting further until you learn better English or, if that isn't the issue, learn how to understand information. 

    Videos in which people make mistakes means absolutely nothing BTW, lol, and I already addressed this in a prior comment. Every single person that has ever played HS has made mistakes, legend players are no exception to that rule. This is not "evidence" that legend is easy to achieve, it's evidence that they play the game. 

     It is hard to not troll, when you basicaly helping more and more. For example you can look on bold ones in your last message. I really don't see anything superior on your arguments. It is just ridiculusly funny how you can't understand how much proud person you are.:-D

    he has mental problems fam , leave him alone in his little hearthstone universe :D 

     Hey, i already left him. It is not fun, when he don't even need my push anymore.

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    posted a message on How hard is it to hit legend nowadays?
    Quote from Sevasmios >>
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     Good grief. Again, my argument, which consists of me making the point that legend requires skill, time, and dedication to achieve, does not make presumptions. Me presuming that you and elnur are lower ranked has no direct correlation to aforementioned argument, it's just an off the cuff observation that I'm making bc both of you seem like you don't know what you're talking about. As for your feeling that you would mop the floor with legend players in arena, you're certainly entitled to feel however you like. That doesn't mean your feeling is even remotely realistic/true tho. The primary problem I see with your argument is that you're not couching anything you're saying in logic or rationale or experience. You're just saying you think and feel stuff, but you can't back any of it up. Plenty of people make mistakes sure, you see it all the time at high rank. What separates the best players from very good or average players is that they make less mistakes on average: they are more consistent. Also, you took my assertion of you saying "any legend player [could be] mediocre" out of context, and it doesn't misinterpret your argument at all. You said legend players "can even be pretty mediocre". That's a direct quote. I said it's difficult to make the case that any legend players are mediocre bc they are the top 0.1 percent of all players. No contradiction or presumption there.  
     

     I would react untraditional from end to start...

    Ok we can assume i maid presumption and you maid presumption. Than i just ask, why the hell are you react on something out of context. Or why else would you argument... On my "legends can be mediocre players" by answering "all legends can't be mediocre". Becose i was presumptional only becosei  thought it was reaction to context and not some random sentence just to write at least something close to the theme. (Like hey, global warming can cause lost of house to sea... Yeah? But people in Tibet are pretty safe.)

    Nevermore... pointless to prolonging who is presumptional.

    And to the point...

    Everybody base on feeling, nobody have hardproof data of how much people in legend are people without misstakes, with few misstakes, with lots of misstakes... SO there definitely is not way to base information on other basis then are our feels/knowledge. And each of us would have different feels/knowledge, becose we all live different lives.

    For me it more like... I was once legends and it was so hard for me, pleas stop letting fown value of my achievment. Man, it doesn't matter how others looks on it, if you feel like it was achievment, then it was achievment for you. For me is for example achievment which i am proud of beating Rastakhan Rumble with hunter overkill cost reduce, even if nobody else five it value.

    So now i am maybe presumptional, but ve honest to yourself... When you wrote "That doesn't mean your feeling is even remotely realistic/true tho." didn't you in real just completly denied my idea about how being legend does not neccesery mean you should be proud of your game skill in HS? And it is about everything what i wrote... If you want just completly denny all what i write you definetly can. But please stop transform meaning of words back in time... Like hey i didn't meaned it like absolutly denny. It should be more like... You are not close, becose it is something and it will be something. Which i would agree it is something. Not everybody have legend. But i still say on the same time... That this something mean almost same to nothing if its primary meaning you are skillfull master in game is almost nonexistent.

     Ok, this is clearly a language barrier issue. You don't know what I mean when I say you took something out of context and you may not know what presumption means. To be honest I'm not entirely sure what you're attempting to say in general with this last post, but I do want to say a few things to try to address what I think you're saying. To start with, this is not personal to me. The points I've made thus far were not made to attempt to defend myself or what an achievement in a game means to me. I don't need to validate what achieving legend means to you. What I've said is an honest representation of my perspective, which I've substantiated with my own experience, knowledge, and logic. Where I take issue is that you and one or two others are attempting to speak on said achievement when you ostensibly have no experience, factual evidence, or convincing reasoning to legitimize anything you're saying. You can't say you know what it's like to get to legend bc you've never gotten to legend, you can't provide statistics to prove your argument bc they directly contradict it (if legend is so easy how is that only 0.1 percent of the player base is there?), and the best rationale you could up with to support your argument is "I saw some players in legend on streams and I didn't think they were good". In sum, you have no experience, you have no evidence, and your logic is weak and predicated solely on your opinion. I'm sorry if you can't understand everything that I'm saying, but I hope the main theme of it comes across here.

     

     Presumption is guessing for others or?

    Than sorry, i really felt like you i hit you somewhere where it hurt, which i definitely didn't aim. Like i want just argue about why i have my opinion on this theme like this...

    But, there is no value in arguing by "You can't prove i am wrong!", when you can't prove you are right either. Or how is your experience more valuable than my? Are you better human? I don't get it. (Or do you want say. Living here where i live is definitely good place to live. Why? Becose i live here. And you will never prove me wrong. Muhahaha!!! Or at least this is how i picture you.:-D)

    And yes it is my best argument, as videos of actual misstakes are better proof than... Huh, could there be better evidence?

     

     

     This is kind of a pointless argument at this stage, and it kinda feels like you're trolling tbh. I've demonstrated multiple times at length why my argument is superior to yours. My experience is more relevant than yours bc I have it firsthand (meaning I've been thru the grind to get legend and you haven't) and you don't. If you can't understand this extremely simple principle then, again, there's no reason to continue this conversation. I acknowledge it may be a language issue, but what I'm saying is not difficult to understand. My logic is superior to yours bc it's based on actual empirical evidence (read: statistics), common sense, and the direct experience I just mentioned, whereas yours is based on what you think and literally nothing else. If you can't understand what I mean than I suggest you refrain from posting further until you learn better English or, if that isn't the issue, learn how to understand information. 

    Videos in which people make mistakes means absolutely nothing BTW, lol, and I already addressed this in a prior comment. Every single person that has ever played HS has made mistakes, legend players are no exception to that rule. This is not "evidence" that legend is easy to achieve, it's evidence that they play the game. 

     It is hard to not troll, when you basicaly helping more and more. For example you can look on bold ones in your last message. I really don't see anything superior on your arguments. It is just ridiculusly funny how you can't understand how much proud person you are.:-D

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    posted a message on How hard is it to hit legend nowadays?
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     Good grief. Again, my argument, which consists of me making the point that legend requires skill, time, and dedication to achieve, does not make presumptions. Me presuming that you and elnur are lower ranked has no direct correlation to aforementioned argument, it's just an off the cuff observation that I'm making bc both of you seem like you don't know what you're talking about. As for your feeling that you would mop the floor with legend players in arena, you're certainly entitled to feel however you like. That doesn't mean your feeling is even remotely realistic/true tho. The primary problem I see with your argument is that you're not couching anything you're saying in logic or rationale or experience. You're just saying you think and feel stuff, but you can't back any of it up. Plenty of people make mistakes sure, you see it all the time at high rank. What separates the best players from very good or average players is that they make less mistakes on average: they are more consistent. Also, you took my assertion of you saying "any legend player [could be] mediocre" out of context, and it doesn't misinterpret your argument at all. You said legend players "can even be pretty mediocre". That's a direct quote. I said it's difficult to make the case that any legend players are mediocre bc they are the top 0.1 percent of all players. No contradiction or presumption there.  
     

     I would react untraditional from end to start...

    Ok we can assume i maid presumption and you maid presumption. Than i just ask, why the hell are you react on something out of context. Or why else would you argument... On my "legends can be mediocre players" by answering "all legends can't be mediocre". Becose i was presumptional only becosei  thought it was reaction to context and not some random sentence just to write at least something close to the theme. (Like hey, global warming can cause lost of house to sea... Yeah? But people in Tibet are pretty safe.)

    Nevermore... pointless to prolonging who is presumptional.

    And to the point...

    Everybody base on feeling, nobody have hardproof data of how much people in legend are people without misstakes, with few misstakes, with lots of misstakes... SO there definitely is not way to base information on other basis then are our feels/knowledge. And each of us would have different feels/knowledge, becose we all live different lives.

    For me it more like... I was once legends and it was so hard for me, pleas stop letting fown value of my achievment. Man, it doesn't matter how others looks on it, if you feel like it was achievment, then it was achievment for you. For me is for example achievment which i am proud of beating Rastakhan Rumble with hunter overkill cost reduce, even if nobody else five it value.

    So now i am maybe presumptional, but ve honest to yourself... When you wrote "That doesn't mean your feeling is even remotely realistic/true tho." didn't you in real just completly denied my idea about how being legend does not neccesery mean you should be proud of your game skill in HS? And it is about everything what i wrote... If you want just completly denny all what i write you definetly can. But please stop transform meaning of words back in time... Like hey i didn't meaned it like absolutly denny. It should be more like... You are not close, becose it is something and it will be something. Which i would agree it is something. Not everybody have legend. But i still say on the same time... That this something mean almost same to nothing if its primary meaning you are skillfull master in game is almost nonexistent.

     Ok, this is clearly a language barrier issue. You don't know what I mean when I say you took something out of context and you may not know what presumption means. To be honest I'm not entirely sure what you're attempting to say in general with this last post, but I do want to say a few things to try to address what I think you're saying. To start with, this is not personal to me. The points I've made thus far were not made to attempt to defend myself or what an achievement in a game means to me. I don't need to validate what achieving legend means to you. What I've said is an honest representation of my perspective, which I've substantiated with my own experience, knowledge, and logic. Where I take issue is that you and one or two others are attempting to speak on said achievement when you ostensibly have no experience, factual evidence, or convincing reasoning to legitimize anything you're saying. You can't say you know what it's like to get to legend bc you've never gotten to legend, you can't provide statistics to prove your argument bc they directly contradict it (if legend is so easy how is that only 0.1 percent of the player base is there?), and the best rationale you could up with to support your argument is "I saw some players in legend on streams and I didn't think they were good". In sum, you have no experience, you have no evidence, and your logic is weak and predicated solely on your opinion. I'm sorry if you can't understand everything that I'm saying, but I hope the main theme of it comes across here.

     

     Presumption is guessing for others or?

    Than sorry, i really felt like you i hit you somewhere where it hurt, which i definitely didn't aim. Like i want just argue about why i have my opinion on this theme like this...

    But, there is no value in arguing by "You can't prove i am wrong!", when you can't prove you are right either. Or how is your experience more valuable than my? Are you better human? I don't get it. (Or do you want say. Living here where i live is definitely good place to live. Why? Becose i live here. And you will never prove me wrong. Muhahaha!!! Or at least this is how i picture you.:-D)

    And yes it is my best argument, as videos of actual misstakes are better proof than... Huh, could there be better evidence?

     

     

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    posted a message on How hard is it to hit legend nowadays?

    Little bit clumsy, but i hope evrybody unstand point which i want write.

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    posted a message on How hard is it to hit legend nowadays?
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     I'm sorry, how exactly am I being jealous? lol. My argument is not invalid or "presumptional", it is predicated on logic, reasoning, and experience. Several others that have actually attained legend have agreed with me throughout this thread. The only presumption I'm making is that elnur is not and never has been a high ranked player, and I provided my reasoning for that as well. I would make the same presumption for you for the exact same reason: you can't just replace skill with time, and for you to assert that makes it pretty obvious that you've never attained high rank. It's like saying if you spend a lot of time playing chess you will instantly become a GM in chess. You can't just magically hit GM by playing a lot of chess, it requires a certain level of skill. Similarly, one needs to reach a particular level with regard to skill in order to hit legend in HS. And it's pretty difficult (statistically impossible, in fact) to make an argument for any legend players being mediocre when they are the top 0.1 percent, even if you are presuming that only rank 5 and up spend the time necessary to get there. Now if you were argue that spending large amounts of time playing the game enables players to become more skilled and consequently attain high rank, then you might not sound like you have no idea what you're talking about. As it is, you're in the same boat as elnur as far as I'm concerned: a lower ranked player who's never been to legend trying to act as if they know how difficult it is to reach legend. 

     I don't say i did attain legend rank. But i talk from experience which i sometime see on twitch, how play some HS legends... I understand, they are not pro, so misstakes are normal. But i still feel with how they play if i would met them in arena i would just mop the floor with them. And lots of other players probably too. (As i said, they are not really bad, but they do misstakes very often. And it is more than one out of many. Of course there are most of legends, who don't misstakes this often, but still. When you see somebody who is obviously mediocre and legend, how can you think being legends need really good skill in game?)

    +You don't even stop at presumming, you even now start react like i even wrote something of your presumptions... (any legend players being mediocre instead <=/=> For hitting legend, you really don't need any extraordinary skill, well you can even be pretty mediocre. )

     Good grief. Again, my argument, which consists of me making the point that legend requires skill, time, and dedication to achieve, does not make presumptions. Me presuming that you and elnur are lower ranked has no direct correlation to aforementioned argument, it's just an off the cuff observation that I'm making bc both of you seem like you don't know what you're talking about. As for your feeling that you would mop the floor with legend players in arena, you're certainly entitled to feel however you like. That doesn't mean your feeling is even remotely realistic/true tho. The primary problem I see with your argument is that you're not couching anything you're saying in logic or rationale or experience. You're just saying you think and feel stuff, but you can't back any of it up. Plenty of people make mistakes sure, you see it all the time at high rank. What separates the best players from very good or average players is that they make less mistakes on average: they are more consistent. Also, you took my assertion of you saying "any legend player [could be] mediocre" out of context, and it doesn't misinterpret your argument at all. You said legend players "can even be pretty mediocre". That's a direct quote. I said it's difficult to make the case that any legend players are mediocre bc they are the top 0.1 percent of all players. No contradiction or presumption there.  

     I would react untraditional from end to start...

    Ok we can assume i maid presumption and you maid presumption. Than i just ask, why the hell are you react on something out of context. Or why else would you argument... On my "legends can be mediocre players" by answering "all legends can't be mediocre". Becose i was presumptional only becosei  thought it was reaction to context and not some random sentence just to write at least something close to the theme. (Like hey, global warming can cause lost of house to sea... Yeah? But people in Tibet are pretty safe.)

    Nevermore... pointless to prolonging who is presumptional.

    And to the point...

    Everybody base on feeling, nobody have hardproof data of how much people in legend are people without misstakes, with few misstakes, with lots of misstakes... SO there definitely is not way to base information on other basis then are our feels/knowledge. And each of us would have different feels/knowledge, becose we all live different lives.

    For me it more like... I was once legends and it was so hard for me, pleas stop letting fown value of my achievment. Man, it doesn't matter how others looks on it, if you feel like it was achievment, then it was achievment for you. For me is for example achievment which i am proud of beating Rastakhan Rumble with hunter overkill cost reduce, even if nobody else five it value.

    So now i am maybe presumptional, but ve honest to yourself... When you wrote "That doesn't mean your feeling is even remotely realistic/true tho." didn't you in real just completly denied my idea about how being legend does not neccesery mean you should be proud of your game skill in HS? And it is about everything what i wrote... If you want just completly denny all what i write you definetly can. But please stop transform meaning of words back in time... Like hey i didn't meaned it like absolutly denny. It should be more like... You are not close, becose it is something and it will be something. Which i would agree it is something. Not everybody have legend. But i still say on the same time... That this something mean almost same to nothing if its primary meaning you are skillfull master in game is almost nonexistent.

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    posted a message on How hard is it to hit legend nowadays?

    For example you can take BG, where we have rating system and when you see somebody over rating 8k, you can bet he will perform well.

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