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Huge pig nerf in battlegrounds. Good. I love the way they play , but it was a requirment to either go pure pig or pig based menagerie to play BGss lately- and forcing stuff that every other player is trying to force is way too RNG heavy.

Also nice to see Shaman in construtcted get some love, and the crabrider nerf. Good job Blizzard.

I am one who likes buffs and nerfs, more the better IMO, I like the change-ups. I will say that some people are just gob-smackingly bad at the game, which is where much of the salt comes from. We're are not all equal  here, not even close. Imagine netdecking or watching a streamer with a tier 1/2 deck, spending some RL money on crafting it, and then still only getting a 45% winrate, once you hit a certain rank.

At that point your ego is stood there with it's pants down, balls flapping in the wind, and it needs protecting. So that is what your brain does.

 Finally, BGs content.

Never want to go back to a hero card meta. Ever. Infinite-value-stone is not a game I ever want to go back to.

Well, yeah they nerfed watchposts - these were going to be the basis of slower, but minion based meta - hell they were like the most viable usable neutral defensive tools for mid-range decks since ..i dunno, like sludge belcher or something - and now they are deleted.

Mid-range decks could have coped with Tickatus fine, and the posts help deal with hunters too - and they could have kept pace with Mage well enough post lunacy nerf. Rogue lost penflinger so the Posts wouldn't have been all that OP in rogue.

I do not understand the nerf for them and the game I am imagining right now is a lot better with them in it, and a lot shittier without.

No thanks.

They need to continue to move hearthstone the other way - over time we want less discovery, less mana cheating, less convert your entire deck into RNG clown fiesta and finally, less infinite value generation.

Resource management needs to happen in hearthstone again, and not due to insane cards like Tickatus. It makes for a more rewarding game to play.

I appreciate that this a long list and can't happen all at once.

I liked Watchposts. They were the most interesting additions to hte game in a while for me, really shook up the early game, and genuinely viable defensive tools for mid-range, instead of just outright control and combo decks.

Now they are nerfed into the ground and unplayable.

Paladin still ripping up the ladder. I don't think any of us want to sit through a whole year of libram bullshit?

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Kibler's suggestion of having Lunacy buff the spells by 1-4 mana instead of 3 would go a long way... things are too consistent at +3 with this small spell pool.  Adding to the chaos by swinging the mana cost more would be fitting, as well as a good nerf to effect.

Meanwhile, the shell of spell mage is still very strong.  Most absurdly is Refreshing Spring Water (not even mentioned on the first page of this thread!).  A 0-mana Draw 2 shows that no one in Hearthstone balance has any clue.

 Kibler is toxic, know jack about the game, the only thing he was good was in Magic a gamer for losers living in mom's basement. So yeah, maybe he's the famous ManChild succesful playing TCG but about HS he's clueless and speak too much bullshit

 Kibler actually engages with people that call him out like this, atleast on Reddit. You don't see other streamers doing the same. I don't always agree wth his opinions on the game but he is atleast giving his opinions from a well informed place and I respect them. He's a great deckbuilder too. Calling him toxic just seems unfair.

Why they always ask for responses on Twitter I have no idea, not touching that cancerous platform with a 10ft pole.

It's not about DoL played winrates. It's at 70%ish post nerf, which is insane in a vacuum anyway, but the point is, people like myself would hate it if it was 50%. It is what it does to the gameplay- it just removes any sense of fun, turns the game into a total clown-fiesta.

It just isn't the experience I want from a Online CCG. Watchposts, on the other hand, which got hit with huge (and effective) nerfs, I felt like were some of the more interesting cards to be added to the game in a while. They changed the game up, and I'm sad to see them essentially removed.

Wild's meta will never settle with the current card release schedule will it?

Blizzard has an army of defenders on fora like these. You seem to be one of them. So you don't care what kind of next red meat they throw at you and only think to converse how to work around it.

Let me educate you how it works. Blizzard purposefully print unbalanced OP cards just to stimulate complain threads. Good or bad, it stirs up conversation and creates involvement. It's part of their marketing strategy and businessmodel. If you are not talked about you are irrelevant kind of business psychology. Capisce?

Maybe the conversation should evolve around convincing Blizzard to print more balanced cards in the first place.. I'm sure the amount of complain threads would deminish rapidly. 

But according to you Blizzard isn't te problem, whiners are, Is it.....fanboy?

There is nothing wrong with nerfing or buffing cards. It changes the meta and thats good for the game. People stop playing when all they queue in to is the same decks. If you want the best for the game then you should be welcoming as many shake ups in the meta as possible.

Can't tell if this is a coordinated troll thread designed just to trigger people...

yes, i need to learn how to not have hysteria wipe my entire board before it touches opponents minions, or how to have the 4th devolving missiles of the game not completely wreck me so my opponent who drew his entire deck for basically 0 mana gets a free win. some cards are inherently too powerful. crabrider is one of them and I use him in all my decks.

After a Mask of C'Thun the deathrattle triggered and healed my board but not my Hero.

Are there any order logic behind this?

If the Lightshower Elemental dies before my Hero's health reaches zero will the deathrattle effect restore my Hero's health back?

Such a dramatic change is not worth thinking about, you can't even select 2 targets for the same action.

There is plenty of room for more complex minion battles within the current framework if they want to move in that direction. but we would need more taunts, more trample (excess damage goes face), less manacheating, slower otk combos, more complex deathrattles and less board fills/clears in a single card.

I remember some big priest mirrors where we might have traded off 1000 mana worth of minions each!

new tribe introduced dominates. new hero introduced dominates, new class, new weapon etc. thats how marketing works in gaming

That's just how it works when a new tribe is introduced to Battlegrounds. It was the same for Pirates and Elementals. I think they said whenever the next big content update comes out, Quillboars will no longer be in every match. I'm sure we'll also see some adjustments then too. Just wait it out. It happens all the time.

Isn’t it the same with every update? Same happened when pirates were introduced, same with elementals etc.

They flood the pool with the new class which gets people excited. They then revert back to normal numbers and the history repeats.