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Quote from lv426a11 >>

I replied in another thread, but for me, the game is just broken and/or unfun now.  I tend to enjoy more control sort of gameplay, but it just doesn't work anymore.

The decks I face on ladder...

Sif Mage (Discover bonanza then OTK), Tendril Reno Warrrior (shitshow, but arguably one of the fairer decks), Odin Warrior (basically OTK), Wheel Lock (super fun /s), DH - Window shopper - dead by turn 5/6, Token Hunter - dead by turn 5/6, Giant Rogue - dead by turn 5/6, Spell druid (OTK), Plague DK - inevitable unavoidable death as control, Shaman (OTK - not as popular since the nerf), Paladin - don't see much paladin these days, Priest - dragon OTK.

Everything in this game now is about excessive mana cheating or killing your opponent in one turn with no interaction.  There are so many broken cards and combos that I just dont see how you can fix it at this point.   For me it's not about it a particular deck being overpowered.  There will always be a best deck.  For me it's about the only types of deck that are viable. 

I don't want to play a game where I know I've lost the second I see what class my opponent is, but that's the state we're in now.   I can flip coins if I wanted to play that sort of game...

 This is pretty much exactly how I feel. Even if they "nerf" the top tier decks, there's just too many fundamental design problems that the next deck up will be just as oppressive. I saw someone post a pretty good point and compare it to rock paper scissors. Certain decks have no chance against particular ones due to the recent card design; ie control vs wheel.

It seems like everyday most of the community is getting more fed up as well. The weekly games on HS replay has gone from about 10 million to about 8 million in the past week and a half.

Ultimately it's up to Blizzard though. I'm sure they have their numbers and plenty of feedback. As I mentioned originally, I think we'll need a mass reworking of many cards. Unfortunately, I don't think Blizzard will do something like this.

In my opinion, HS has been going downhill at light speed for a while now.

I think Blizzard has finally created a state where the game is basically unfixable. There are way too many fundamental problems with the game at this point. We would need straight up card changes on a scale which has never been seen to get remotely back to older Hearthstone.

Personally I've quit altogether. (I was on my last leg when the mini set came out)

With that said, I still like to keep up with the news and see what the community is up to.

I'm just curious where others are at. Has this been the final nail in the coffin for many of you like it has been me? Do you think Hearthstone has hit an irrepairable state? Are you playing significantly less? Maybe you still enjoy it?

I'm all about trying to find new cool decks, but man this deck seems all over the place lol. The amount of garbage your running for "chances" at super niche combos is incredibly high.

On top of that you are running purely big minions, reno, and renathal. I have no idea how you survive against anything remotely aggressive. I know this deck isn't beating warrior either since it's a priest deck, and the small chances priest have at beating warrior through Dirty Rats or Theotar don't exist here.

Idk what this beats tbh. High roll an on curve Elise/Thunderbringer or bust?

What a waste of everyone's time.

I mean, any REAL control deck is doomed unless they nerf Brann, regardless of the class.

*and by nerf I mean change completely

Brann should have never been made.

Quote from Greed >>

Who is the genius that made that 3 mana bullshit that you can get from RNG and put it in the same game as this 7 mana card with a big requirement? Fire his ass, ty.

 PREACH

Oh wow that's a pretty big one. Thanks for the explanation.

High roll on that Dirty Rat or bust.

I'm curious what other peoples thoughts are so far with this expansion. There's a LOT of gg cards you can't interact with and it feels miserable.

decent idea

With Trogg Gemtosser you can do 10 damage to face with a 3 cost card. Of course it's not good early game but that's nor when people play it. A druid took me down from 14  with this card and a swipe. Too cheap for that amount of damage and shouldn't be possible.

Yeah you’re right but Brann and Book combo is just annoying and stupidly easy for anyone to pull off. 

I don’t know about yall but this Warrior meta is already so stale it’s literally everywhere. Warrior is so simple to play and if they brann and then boom on curve you usually lose right there. Come on Blizzard pretend you care. 

Wait till you hear how much damage shaman can do on turn 6.

This is ridiculous. I keep putting taunts up because I know he will get that OTK turn with his armor. The days of Hearthstone where you chip away at your opponent is gone. Most decks just play the board or their hand until they get this dumb combo that ends it without the other player having a chance to do anything. You can keep putting taunts up or freeze him but it's not like you have unlimited resources. He on the other hand almost has unlimited armor. This is the first class that needs to be nerfed beside Wheelock who has the same riduculous mechanic.

Quote from emkarab >>

Of course it is a problem. You cannot compete against Warrior as control deck even if you can win with aggro decks. Brann is simply too powerful. Yes, Shaman is also a problem, but Warrior is even more annoying.

 Still can’t figure that design choice out. They removed Brann from standard because doubling ONE battlecry was too powerful. But doubling all battlecries for the rest of the game for 6 mana isn’t too strong? 😳 

Of course it is a problem. You cannot compete against Warrior as control deck even if you can win with aggro decks. Brann is simply too powerful. Yes, Shaman is also a problem, but Warrior is even more annoying.

They can't fix the meta.  There's a whole list of broken decks held in check by the next broken deck.  When they nerf DH, warlock will probably come to dominate the meta.  Then the meta will shift and it will be all hyper aggro to beat warlock and control warrior to beat hyper aggro.

They enabled (by design) a whole bunch of decks which are basically garaunteed to win against another "class" of deck.  Control will 100% lose to OTK & Wheel.  Wheel will lose to hyper aggro etc.  They've basically created paper, scissor, (Hearth)stone.

Problem is, paper, scissor stone is a shit game.  

p.s. I would add that the only reason it's not a complete shit show is that some people play decks more for fun than for winning.  Problem is, the ability of these home-brew decks to win now is getting smaller to the point that it's just not worth the effort.

It’s getting gutted on the 16th I think they said, ready for the next brainless deck to take over, like spam priest or buff my Zilla and smash u in the face on turn 5 rouge

I played a lot less and never buy expansions anymore. The game is as unbalanced as can be.
Classes with near 60% winrate and classes with near 40% winrate. They are not even trying to fix it. Then fine, you don't get my money anymore.

Priest can only win with The dragon legendary, which has no counter aside being lucky with dropping a Dirty Rat.
Paladin can permanent stealth a fully buffable minion which only counter is a silence.

Nah man, not my meta at all. I want to see board battles. Smart thinking. Nothing of that is left.