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Im so happy about this one! I love thief rogue, and this used to be my favorite card!

Im sure they will get some OP ramp in the new set too lol

I've only played a dozen or so games but every time I matched vs a kazak druid (at least 4) I got my ass kicked. Feels like the the treasures  are too strong when you have more than 10 mana a turn. 

Of course fast aggro decks generally stomp them before they ramp that high, so not sure how meta defining it will be.

The face hunter people love to hate, also protects against the greedy "OP" slow decks.

They should fix it because the cards above 10 cost are quite a bit worse than many of the 10 cost cards and its pretty OP as is with its chance to hit those 2 dirty Old Gods.

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No impactful changes to the current standard meta. Why just don’t change the name of the game to Combostone or Roguestone? xD

 Are you reading the same patch notes? I saw nerfs to 2 cards played in EVERY rogue deck and another to poison rogue.

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so playing as a shaman how I can counter owl lock?

 You need to run weapon removal to slow them down long enough to smash them with your big minions. Also, Frostbite is great tech as it can easily pull off honorable kill against their void tokens and will make their next spell cost 2 more. Also, Cult Neophyte and Far Watch posts will slow them way down.

 So you are saying I can just run 6-8 tech cards and I might be able to slow them down enough to beat them? Seems legit.

Mr Smite is the biggest problem that I see with it. If the juggernaut spawns him and the warrior has 1-2 pirates in hand (which they usually do) its instant 10+ dmg not even counting the weapon they randomly get.

I don't get WHY they made such a high damage charge minion after going totally away from them in favor of rush... I just don't get it.  Of make him not have charge and just grant it at least that would tone it down.  It's seeing play in other decks and offering ridiculous burst (buff pally, rogue and their shadowstep shenanigans) but at least those aren't as oppressive as pirate warrior. 

I'd like them to nerf stats at the very least... otherwise reduce its cost 1 and make it  Rush give your other pirates rush. Then it could be used to clear boards but not as 10+ burst out of nowhere.

I got killed by a random generated Mr Smite  topped with random Gorehowl into a played Mr Smite and the 3/3 bomb your opponent. 26 damage ( 2 overkill).  Yeah I know that's rare and RNG.. but still pretty disgusting.

#OutOfSalt

It isn't just wild.. standard has games ending by turn 5 and 6 now too. (Maybe not OFFICIALLY until turn 7 or 8, but they are all but over by 5/6). Warlock quest is flat out disgusting, I just instant concede when I queue into one. Unlimited draw, healing and damage, don't think any deck can consistently challenge it except for maybe well drawn mage quest.

Warlock quest wouldn't be as bad if fatigue and hero power didn't both damage opponent. Maybe just CARDS PLAYED, there is still TONS of damage. It is just too much heals and damage potential when they can tap, draw and discard through their deck in 10 turns.

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That's not how you calculate probability, the more minions in play the less chances Felmaw hits face. And no, Naralex is not rigged, from 5 dreams available, you get 2 and they can repeat, that's all.

Do you really understand how probability works?

You CAN rig probability.

Let's say there are 3 types of items, A, B, and C. If there is only one of each type, the chances of getting an A is only 1/3.

However, you CAN reduce the chances by adding more B or C items. For example, there is only 1 A, but there are 3 Bs and 3 Cs. The chances of getting A is now only 1/7.

These two RNGs are the same. You CAN rig them in the code. It's actually pretty easy.

In fact, Hearthstone has actually confirmed that they rigged some of the Discover card's RNG, so that they can't Discover itself.

 Not discovering themselves is not rigging anything.. its simply removing a card from the pool of available randomness.

While the first days were at least interesting, getting destroyed by super random treasure cards is one of the least fun things I've ever experienced in Hearthstone. Count me out until there's a patch to fix this.

And no, I'm not interested in being forced to play counter decks to this RNG.

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We disagree..

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Spells that cost 8-10 mana are supposed to end games...

 I strongly disagree with that statement.

 You can disagree, but that is sentiment from game designers at blizz. High cost spells need to be impactful and be a way to end games. This has been their design philosophy since the beginning, what is pyroblast for if not to end the game? This is on top of a restrictive, highly telegraphed and counterable deck at 8-10 mana.

Plenty of 8-10 mana spells, that does not end games, but merely resets the board/game DOOM! Shield Shatter Plague of Death Tree of Life and Twisting Nether.

Void Contract Tidal Wave Power Word: Fortitude Glacial Mysteries Demonbolt are pretty far from being game ending.

And the impact of Mind Control Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron Rune of the Archmage Zerek's Cloning Gallery Cenarion Ward Deep Freeze Free From Amber Guardian Animals is debatable and random.

Spells that has a good potential to win you the game when cast within that mana range is limited to Nagrand Slam Pyroblast Survival of the Fittest and Gift of the Wild (if you have a board) Dinosize (if you have a minion) Inner Demon Power of Creation and to be nice we can include Call of the Wild

So I don't give much for your claim that its the developers philosophy, that 8-10 mana cost spells should end games. Be impactful of course, but not gaming winning more or less on their own.

We disagree..

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Spells that cost 8-10 mana are supposed to end games...

 I strongly disagree with that statement.

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The point of the card was to be a powerful buildaround for dragon decks, to encourage ppl to play dragons.. boy did they fail miserably on that one.

There has to be a bigger limitation on his requirements if they dont want to change the treasures. Requiring at least one dragon to be in deck (and no other tribe) could help, anything that forces it to be played in dragon-only decks.

 There's just not a lot of dragons in rotation right now. If there were more dragons that were good and felt good to play and play against, then I feel like it'd make more sense. Once rotation hits, Druid and Priest are losing alot of what makes Kazakusan so good right now. I personally don't think it needs a nerf. It's beatable.

 But thats the whole point, there has to be a trade-off! Do you want to use this powerful game-ending effect? Pay the deck-building price for it! In this case, being forced to play one tribe and only it.

Hell, even Zephris and DQ Alex forced you to nearly reach fatigue b4 you could play them in non-highlander decks, being able to play Kazakusan asap in a spell-only deck isnt even a trade-off these days, thats just rly poor design imo.

Guff sucks.

His character sucks.
His quest sucks.
Hero card sucks.

Ramp druid is bullshit.

Mo'arg needs to go, any deck that uses it has been degenerate trash.

I’ve had a lot of fun so far. I just tried to play on mobile though and it was SUPER bad. You can’t see the attacks that the enemies have planned because it gets cropped….can’t believe it went live that way 

It might just be that your skill level is around 6000, and if you don't consistently place in the upper half you will never climb. But there's nothing wrong with that, every player has a different potential.

Simple. Change it so fatigue damage doesn't count, only self inflicted damage.

Game is in such a miserable state