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    posted a message on Which was the bigger failure, Mercenaries or Duels?
    Quote from kwikill >>

    This thread is a whole lot of "whatever I don't like personally is a failure".

     How so? Most people are in agreement that mercenaries was a huge failure. Only a minority are making it about what mode they hate.

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    posted a message on Which was the bigger failure, Mercenaries or Duels?

    I dislike Duels, but I can see it being fun for people. Mercenaries on the other hand has no fun whatsoever in its design. Whoever was designing that has no business designing games at all. 

    Whoever said Battlegrounds was a failure must be trolling. They may not like it, but it is objectively a huge success with tons of players and appears to be the most popular game mode. It's super cheap too. You can be completely free to play in that mode with ease.

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    posted a message on Battlegrounds is rigged
    Quote from user-18143276 >>

    Its so blatantly rigged it blows my mind. Playing 2 games as the panda hero. It consistently offers the worst hero powers in the game such as Edvins, Cariel, Kitty and Nozdormu. No way that shit is random. Its scripted. 

    Extremely rare to get Reno for example on that hero. 

     

     That was in some patch notes a while back. There is less chance you get some of the best hero powers. Otherwise the hero would just be broken.

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    posted a message on Battlegrounds is rigged
    Quote from hpwnusername >>

     

    P.S. I think current season is too highrolly, and that might show. We had that one before Quillboars were introduced when ppl went for double kali consistently. All in all, BG has been the better game mode during 2021, just enjoy the ride, it gets bumpy though :D

     I would agree with that. Although not as bad as it was earlier in the year where it was a rush to 5 and see who gets lucky. Not to mention the Diablo disaster. The current meta makes menagerie really weak because of all the high rolling which is my favorite way to play. It's still way better than it ever has been, but a bit less enjoyable for me.

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    posted a message on Battlegrounds is rigged
    Quote from MightyMaus >>
    Quote from MyDude33 >>

     Buddy, you just don't understand what they mean. It's more about how they match you with people. Once you find where you're supposed to be in terms of your ranking then you will likely have a win rate close to 50% with some variance because the game mode has a lot of luck involved. This is because you will simply be matched with similarly skilled players ("Worthy Opponents"). 

    My rank is around 6500. But if I was able to play players with a ranking of 2500 I guarantee my win rate would be 80% or higher and then taper off as my ranking rises and close in on the 50% mark. Simply by playing against people closer to my level. Not by some forced algorithm. 

     As a developer, I DO understand what it means. The Luck stat itself is literally rigging the game for or against you depending on how well you're doing. Then the pay to get 2 more choices increases your ability to get a better hero by 50%. It's not nefarious, It's not an insult to the game or anything sneaky. It's something they themselves have discussed and a norm in auto-battlers. I don't though, understand how you guys can't understand it.  

    Paying to get a 50% chance to get a better hero increases your chance to win exponentially, which is rigging. Adding a luck stat to keep you at 50% is rigging. Even pushing you to play against people better or worse than you based on your w/l and rating is rigging. It's literally all forced algorithms. 

     Luck is luck. There is no rigging when it comes to that. It's like playing poker. Sometimes you get dealt the nuts and sometimes it seems like everyone else is getting dealt exactly the hand that beats you. It all evens out without the need for external factors if skill levels are comparable.

    The extra heroes probably affects things more at lower ratings than higher ratings, but not nearly as much as you think. There are some heroes which are objectively good and bad, but a lot that depend on the player. For example, I do really well Aranna consistently even though she's supposedly at the bottom of the bottom.

    I think it's more about getting to play heroes you actually enjoy versus the ones that win most. I just can't stand to play Hooktusk, Millhouse, Cthun, and some others and just want the extra choices so I can continue avoiding them like the plague. 

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    posted a message on Battlegrounds is rigged
    Quote from MightyMaus >>
    Quote from Poghy >>

    These rigging posts are getting more ridicolous every year. Why would they rig BGs in the first place? Why would they waste resources to keep everyone at 50% in a game mode thats pretty much free to play and has no rewards?

    There is this game mode thats called arena. Maybe you have heard about it. If you are good at the game you can have a complete constructed collection just by playing arena. So it would make sense for Blizzard to rig it, so they can sell more packs. It would be actually beneficial for the company to keep everyone at 50% winrate in arena. But guess what? The best players winrate are not even close to 50%. Good arena players can maintain a winrate over 70%. So its pretty obvious that arena is not rigged.

    But for some reason they are using some secret code to keep everyone at 50% in battlegrounds. OK.

     They've LITERALLY SAID that they keep BG's win rates at 50% I'm not sure how you guys can keep denying something the developers themselves have been very open with. Also, NO ONE is saying it's bad, I've been literally saying It's something common in auto-chess battler type games.... which this is... I'm just acknowledging something THE DEVELOPERS THEMSELVES HAVE SAID. Which for some strange reason, none of you guys can comprehend, or accept since it's insulting your precious game. 

    It's not "some secret code" It's programming they've openly talked about. Why are you so daft? Is there something about what I'm writing that you can't comprehend?

     

     Buddy, you just don't understand what they mean. It's more about how they match you with people. Once you find where you're supposed to be in terms of your ranking then you will likely have a win rate close to 50% with some variance because the game mode has a lot of luck involved. This is because you will simply be matched with similarly skilled players ("Worthy Opponents"). 

    My rank is around 6500. But if I was able to play players with a ranking of 2500 I guarantee my win rate would be 80% or higher and then taper off as my ranking rises and close in on the 50% mark. Simply by playing against people closer to my level. Not by some forced algorithm. 

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    posted a message on Battlegrounds is rigged

    Good to know that still in 2022 people don't understand what the 50% win rate actually means. Also not new in 2022 is their argument which sounds exactly the same as a flat earther.

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    posted a message on Identify What is Wrong With Battlegrounds
    Quote from freakin3 >>

    Elementals and Dragons can get too powerful at lower tiers.  Which pushes a lot of options out the window.  There just isn't enough variety.  

    That is all in relation to what tribes are in the game. Demons can do this too and all can be taken down by Murlocs. And of course people are just gonna get lucky. That's just how it goes. 

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    posted a message on Identify What is Wrong With Battlegrounds

    Not sure what bugs make it unplayable. I certainly am not seeing anything game breaking and have no disconnects. I think the Khadgar/Baron pirate interactions are stupid and buggy, but not game breaking. 

    I'm pretty happy with the game right now especially since late game builds shine without Diablo around to fuck everything up.

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    posted a message on Worst Pack Opening Since 2014...

    Based on the responses here we have a completely normal distribution. Myself it was 3 in 40 packs. I don't play constructed so it's not a big deal. Just blowing some extra gold. 

    Gratz to those who had good luck. Better luck next time to those who didn't.

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    posted a message on Worst Pack Opening Since 2014...

    The good news is that someone probably had a great pack opening to even things out. Hope they post here too.

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    posted a message on Ready for tomorrow guys?
    Quote from same_midaisun >>
    Quote from sPacEtiMe19 >>
    Quote from Metanoy >>

    Get a fucking life... who dafaq even completes the rewards track lol

     Imagine for a moment, someone thinking doing something for enjoyment is equivocal to not having a life, that furthermore took time out of their life, to comment on a forum based on said game, insulting people for playing that game.

    You have clearly achieved the highest level of brainpower achievable by our species. 

     You use long and complicated words. These words are an insult to simple-minded non-native English writers like me.

    And simple-minded people like me do think that spending a lifetime worth enjoying a computer game isn't really an achievement worth mentioning even if aforementioned simple-minded people do play same game themselves.

     In your simple-minded non-native English writing world do they have a saying for "If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all"? If not, it would greatly benefit your society and help churn out better people. 

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    posted a message on Identify What is Wrong With Battlegrounds
    Quote from M0res >>

    The single thing that is wrong with battlegrounds is the electronic roulette algorithm that drives it.

    Who goes first, who you play against next, whether you get a triple, what minion gets hit and in what order… the list is endless and the entire thing is controlled by software.

    There’s nothing that the player can do. No strategy can mitigate any of the above as it’s all controlled by software. 

     Who goes first is only random if you have the same amount of minions. Attack order is left to right. There are various ways to manipulate what minions get hit and when. There are plenty of times where who you play is not random. I'm not sure you actually play the game. 

    I think the game is actually quite good right now with armor and the removal of Diablo. No complaints on my side.

    Also, Elementals are not suddenly OP. They just have more time than before to actually scale. Dragons and Murlocs also benefit greatly from this.

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    posted a message on Can we please get some BGs nerfs ? Yes, Sneed, I'm looking right at you

    Honestly, Sneed doesn't seem so bad after the fiasco that was Diablo lol. Probably the only time I would ever agree with something being called cancer.

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    posted a message on Tarecgosa needs nerfed...

    You know it's a shitpost when the dude has clearly been holding onto this for a while and decided to make the post right after the patch came out. The stats may prove him right in a couple weeks, but come on don't be that guy. I mean if its not Tercgosa it will just be something else. I think it's good dragons have something that supports them in the mid game. Otherwise they are back to being almost unviable.

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