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Which card do you think is more important? Meat Wagon, or the second Dirty Rat? Only have dust for 1 of them.
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The Harbinger
The number of chosen dwindle as the day draws close. The flames dance in anticipation of your audience. Slowly but inevitably, the end of times draws close. So what do you say, Lord of Dragons? Want to destroy the world with me?
Do you like Oriental food? Or perhaps human sacrifices? I possess an ample supply of both but not much else in the way of morsels.Lore:
Faye, like many, was once nothing more than a child. However, as she watched her home burn to the ground under the unyielding wrath of an invading army, the child within her died, and was replaced with something else. From atop a faraway hillside, she gazed with soulless eyes on the ruins of everything she knew, and a goddess appeared to her, seated on a throne of fire and steel.
This world has become tainted, choked with despair. The silver-haired woman said, sadness in her eyes. There is no hope of salvation, but there exists hope of an end to the suffering . Come, child, and you will have your justice - and your paradise.
So the girl disappeared from atop the hillside, and was reborn as something else. Something that seemed human but was not. Something with power. Something with a will and a purpose - to bring everything to an end.
The Harbinger wields fire, consorts with demons, and is the master of arts both destructive and violent. Her hero power, Red Burst , allows her to take board control in the early game and gives access to burst, as well as combos, in the late game. The class is versatile, and can play an aggressive, token-focused deck, using its buffs and token generating tools, or go for a grind-y, late-game focused control style with its powerful board clears and value cards. It can also potentially use some of its hero buffs in conjunction with synergy cards to deal massive combo damage.
The Keyword:
When the time comes, all things will burn to ash. Fear not - instead, embrace it. Learn to love the sound of destruction. Learn to delight in the scent of flames. Learn to revel in it.
(NOTE: This has changed from the last phase).
Revelry is a keyword that is indicative of the Harbinger's lust for destruction. It triggers similarly to Combo does in Rogues, with the card gaining a glow-y yellow border and an upgraded/bonus effect if a minion died on the turn. It's also deceptively hard to trigger, requiring that you either have removal ready, or both you and your opponent control minions.
Notes on how it works:
When ' Revelry and [Keyword] ' is written on a card, they are two separate conditions and not part of the same effect (like Battlecry and Deathrattle ). It's like 'Revelry: Do (x) and Deathrattle : Do (x)', just shorter.
A spell that kills a minion won't trigger it's own Revelry effect. Likewise, if you kill a minion with, say, a Knife Juggler juggle, the Revelry of the minion won't trigger. Essentially, whether the Revelry is triggered is determined before the card is played.
Example Cards:
Explanations and Lore Text:
Apocalypse Jester: The sinister laughter rings out over the carnage. Amidst the cacophony of sound, a single chanting beat is audible - "Ho! Ho!"
The Apocalypse Jester is a Savage Roar style finisher for the class's Token Aggro deck. It's got a powerful battlecry that allows you to burst for massive damage if you have a board, and turns your small minions into threats that demand answers. The Jester's laughter gives your Cultists confidence and resolve, while striking fear into the hearts of your enemies, ripening them for slaughter.
Unity of Will: We were lost, weak, and confused. But at her side, our fear melts away, and our hearts resonate with purpose.
Unity of Will is a board-wide buff that can also summon more tokens for you if you trade or kill something first. It lets you gain board control in the early game and can also lead to big bursts of damage if you build up a large enough swarm of minions. Faye has a unique charisma that attracts people who are feeling worthless to her, and she uses her own unshakeable will to give them strength.
Awakening: I cast my self behind, and became something more. My uncertainties vanished in the Goddess's cleansing flames, and I shall never waver again.
Awakening is a very versatile card. It's a large attack buff that can trigger synergies and be used to immediately clear minions, it offers some heal, and it also acts as a pseudo Frost Nova , or if your opponent chooses to go face anyway, a pseudo Flamestrike . The Harbinger isn't so selfish as to rely on the sacrifice her devout followers - Faye herself is a being of immense power.
Immortal Devil: My voice may disappear for moments, but it will never die. In your mind, it shall echo, echo, and echo, until it is the only thing you hear... there is no escape, my darling.
The Immortal Devil is an enabler for another Harbinger archetype beyond Cultist aggro. She acts as a value engine over the long game, being able to constantly reincarnate herself while generating more copies over time. You can use her, along with the Harbinger's numerous board clears (and other grinder cards that come later) to slowly exhaust your opponent. Her effect is basically like Toshley 's Battlecry and Deathrattle effect, just with an extra condition on the Battlecry .
Fire Herald Azura: The fire in your blood is so beautiful. Do not worry - use my body and my magic as your gate, and let's watch everything burn to ash together.
Azura is Faye's best friend and most devoted follower, having been with her on the day she lost her home and spoke to her goddess. She channels the Harbinger's energy through her own body and lets it loose on everything in the general vicinity, allowing you to repeatedly and unrelentingly clear the board using your hero power and other hero buff cards. The Windfury buff can also allow you to do massive burst damage. Your hero still attacks and takes damage equal to her target's attack like normal, but this time the damage is dealt to everything, instead of just the attack target. Unfortunately, this action deals heavy damage to her own body, and there are only a certain amount of times it can be performed before she has to recuperate.
Other Classic Cards (with small notes):
Commons:
- If you kill multiple minions at once with Azura and Ritual Dagger , you will summon multiple Cultists.
- Fireblade Acolyte seems stronger than Si7, but Revelry is deceptively hard to trigger compared to combo .
Rares:
- Most of the Harbinger 's win-cons/combo pieces/generally important cards are either Demons or, of course, Legendaries. Cursed Child can be used to tutor them. Similarly, Demon synergy in later sets will follow the same focus on supporting single, powerful Demon cards, rather than Warlock's buff strategy.
- Incinerate is the one 'Random' card for the challenge.
- Bloodrage Berserker 's mana cost has been bumped up to lower its combo burst potential. It has been given an Attack buff to compensate.
Epics:
- Crimson Sceptre can be used as a way to stick a board on turn 5 to finish with Apocalypse Jester on 6. It's a set of delayed 3/2s that are surprisingly sticky, but require you to already have a board to function.
- Harbinger's Decree is a large board clear that also draws you Revelry cards. The flavour here is that you unleash a massive storm of fire and blood to summon your chosen ones to you (which is why there's a person kneeling in the artwork). This is the card for the 'Off Key' challenge.
Basic Set (and Tokens):
Tokens:
<<Phase 1 Submission (Contains other cards)>>
<<Phase 2 Submission (Contains more in-depth discussion of basics)>>
Thanks for reading, thanks to everyone who helped me with the cards, and good luck to other contestants!
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Quick question: Are we allowed to swap around showcase cards after we've submitted? I've practically typed my post but I'm not sure about the showcase cards yet.
Also, I'm really sorry I haven't done feedback today, but I'm busy AF, probably only going to get busier, and I really need to get some stuff done.
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Basic Set for reference:
tokens:
Classic:
Commons:
Ritual dagger might be OP. Note that the two conditions trigger separately from each other. Should I just remove the Revelry?
Apocalypse Jester is the Savage Roar finisher for this class's token deck.
Rare:
If you stop and look really closely Tainted Priestess is the same person as Immortal Devil. I only realised this just now - is it obvious or do you think I can get away with it?
Most of the class's important cards are Demons. Cursed Child can be used to search for them. Other demon synergy effects will work similarly.
The idea is to use Bloodrage Berserker in combination with some basic cards, Blood Revelry, and Awakening, and your hero power to do big Oil-Rogue style combos. Not super sure how to prevent him from being used in a Aggro deck for face burn though.
Epic:
The two effects on Immortal Devil trigger separately and aren't part of the same condition. She can be used in a grinder deck to constantly make resources, and can be tutored using both Cursed Child and Harbinger's Decree.
I kinda want to make the Sceptre 5 mana 0 Attack so you can curve it into Apocalypse Jester, but I'm not sure.
Legendary:
Gave her a Revelry effect so you can kinda pseudo-tutor her using Harbinger's Decree, honestly more for flavour reasons than anything, since the flavour of that card is that you unleash a massive storm of blood and fire to call your chosen ones to you (that's why you see a person kneeling in the artwork).
'All other characters' here refers to everything except the hero, including Azura herself. I don't like that, but I don't want to overcomplicate her by adding more text.
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(I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not).- Second art for Deviate Delight - first appears on your hero, last makes no sense.
- The Rokk is probably fine. I feel like he fits the flavour better - like 'HA! YOU WANNA ROAST ME CARDS? WELL I'M SUCH A BADASS THAT I'LL JUST WALK RIGHT INTO THE FIRE AND PULL THEM BACK OUT' or something. You might also wanna sneakily zoom in to hide the fact that he shares art with Deviate Delight though.
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@Nix:
I accidentally deleted the feedback post I was writing. Now I want to die. But since you said really good things about my cards, I will soldier on and try to get something done anyway xD.
Spur Attack: Seems really dangerous. 8 burst in a 2 mana card is scary.
Big Dragon: This might not be the best showcase.
Blazing Spotlight: I don't like 11 mana cards in general. Especially since this one requires you to stick a minion as well. Maybe make it cost less and give less stats?
Ninian: Yay Anime! I approve. Not sure if it really works though, since your class doesn't have any other anime stuff. That aside, really cool card. I question it being a dragon since Wrathion isn't, but I think you're already aware of that.
Lightbolt: I'm not a fan. It's like a choose one card that tries to pretend it isn't one. That Lich King skull thing exists but that's a token that comes off a Leggy.
Cyr's Creation: Seems like either a low effort Edwin/Mountain Giant or a really mediocre minion. I'd try to tone down the variance a bit - i.e. Giving it taunt and making it gain +2/+2. Or something like that.
Everything else looks fine! I love your class flavour, by the way. Cyr's personality is great too. You might also wanna throw in another weapon in there.
Some changes I'm considering making to my cards:
Edit: This version also:
Note that Revelry is not part of the Deathrattle condition but a separate trigger (it's the same on Ritual Dagger actually, but its a lot more ambiguous there so I might remove that part). I'm a little worried that these are all a little OP, so I just wanted to check in.
I actually named Azura after Azura from Fire Emblem. Didn't realise her name meant Azure though (although that should have been obvious xD). She's called Vera now but I might change her back since Azura sounds cooler.
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If you guys don't mind, I'm gonna toss out my complete set here. I added some more tokens so that you could trigger Revelry more consistently, and took out a card I felt belonged in a later set. However, I'm worried the class is a bit too SMORC now and not enough Control. If anyone wants feedback just reply to me and I'll try to get to it (you don't have to review the set if you don't want to ^-^):
Anyways:
Basic Set for reference:
tokens:
Classic:
Commons:
Ritual dagger might be OP.
Is Apocalypse Jester too obviously designed to fit the 'random' challenge? He's meant to be the Bloodlust/Savage Roar finisher of this class's token deck, and hits the curve right after Crimson Sceptre.
Rare:
I am aware that the gem for Tainted Priestess is wrong. She can provide some token generation as well as minor armor gain. A relatively high priority target.
Most of the class's important cards are Demons. Cursed Child can be used to search for them. Other demon synergy effects will work similarly.
The idea is to use Bloodrage Berserker in combination with some basic cards, Blood Revelry, and Awakening, and your hero power to do big Oil-Rogue style combos. Not super sure how to prevent him from being used in a Aggro deck for face burn though.
Epic:
I'm considering making Immortal Devil shuffle 2 copies of herself, but I'm not sure if that's OP. She can be used in a grinder deck to constantly make resources, and can be tutored using both Cursed Child and Harbinger's Decree.
Legendary:
Gave her a Revelry effect so you can kinda pseudo-tutor her using Harbinger's Decree, honestly more for flavour reasons than anything, since the flavour of that card is that you unleash a massive storm of blood and fire to call your chosen ones to you (that's why you see a person kneeling in the artwork). I don't think it makes her OP, but I could be wrong here.
Again, if anyone wants feedback, reply to me and I'll try to get to you ASAP :D
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General:
- I gotta say, I'm not a fan of your hero power. 4 different secrets with different effect is on a whole different complexity level. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how to fix that. I'd suggest giving them all the same trigger, but I feel like you wouldn't want that.
- I also want to point out that you could experiment with cards that only have Destiny or Fate. They don't necessarily need both, and forcing yourself into both makes it difficult to make more complex effects since they'll stop fitting onto the card. Also, I'm not sure you need to keep writing 'or' in the cards.
- I know your set isn't complete, but around half its cards should have your keyword on it.
Commons (6 of 6):
I'm on the fence about making the Jester summon Cultists, buff minions, or both. Also considering making it costlier and more Bloodlust-ish.
I'm probably gonna reverse [Something Something]'s base effect with its revelry effect.
Rares (5 of 5):
Ring of Fire should say 'Give a character +2 Attack this turn'.
Is Bloodrage Berserker still OP?
Cursed Child might get an art change at some point.
Epics (3 of 3):
I am aware that the stats of the Colossus token is wrong. It's supposed to be a 6/8 like the card says. Is she OP? Should I save her for WTG?
Maybe I'll make her effect Revelry instead of Deathrattle. Along with Immortal Devil, I'm hoping that it can make a sort of grinder/fatigue Harbinger deck - something other than 'Broken Smorc'.
Maybe Crimson Sceptre should cost 6.
Legendary (1 of 1):
I'm not sure how strong she is TBH. Especially with weapons available she can easily come down and clear stuff on 5. I'm tempted to buff her stats like McF4rtson suggested but I'm still not quite sure. I'm also considering giving her 'Revelry: Charge' or something.
EDIT: Quick question - is this Apocalypse Jester totally OP? Ignore the fact that I screwed up the image xD. After all, any class wanting to play a token playstyle will have to have some sort of burst finish. There's also another card I changed as well, if anyone has any opinion on that.
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Deviate Delight: 'Deviant Delight'?
Orgy: no. Call it something else. Also I'm not sure why your class needs this.
Well Fed: I like 'Fully heal a minion and give it +2/+2'.
Compulsive Slacker: I really want to make a deck based on using this to roast your entire deck while you have two Burning Whelps on the board. Inconsistent AF, but hilarious.
Legendary: The Rags are meh - but if you want, save them for WTG. Myra Tyrngaarde is OK, since it could be useful in a fatigue grind or something, but would probably not work in a Roast deck similar to how Blood Queen Lana'thel doesn't work. Bethany should probably sort from small on top so the less useful cards get roasted first. It'd be really cool to have a Clutchmother Zavas kinda card though. Or something that gives you back your roasted cards.
Commons (6 of 6):
I'm on the fence about making the Jester summon Cultists, buff minions, or both.
Rares (5 of 5):
Ring of Fire should say 'Give a character +2 Attack this turn'.
Is Bloodrage Berserker still OP?
Cursed Child might get an art change at some point.
Epics (3 of 3):
I am aware that the stats of the Colossus token is wrong. It's supposed to be a 6/8 like the card says. Is she OP?
Maybe I'll make her effect Revelry instead of Deathrattle. Along with Immortal Devil, I'm hoping that it can make a sort of grinder/fatigue Harbinger deck - something other than 'Broken Smorc'.
Maybe Crimson Sceptre should cost 6.
Legendary (1 of 1):
I'm not sure how strong she is TBH. Especially with weapons available she can easily come down and clear stuff on 5. I'm tempted to buff her stats like McF4rtson suggested but I'm still not quite sure. I'm also considering giving her 'Revelry: Charge' or something.
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- The fact that your first 3 cards all have Rift in their name may be a problem. Having 3 cards with Rift in their name is fine, but having them right next to each other might not go down so well, and I'm not sure how you'd be able to structure your post to separate them (although you might be able to).
- I'd try to slide another Quicktime card in there somewhere. Right now you only have 6 counting the Vault Keeper, which may be too little.
Parallel Dimensions: Could probably cost 1.
ChronoProphet: Personally, I'd drop one of the effects - I don't think its necessary to have both. Your choice though.
???: I'd call it Mirror Force for the YGO reference, but that may or may not be a good idea xD.
- Reservoir is really cool. However, I feel like you need more Reservoir effects that reward you for having a large deck. Currently you have a ton of stuff that increases your deck size (which is great) but most of your reservoir effects (all except Water Blast and potentially Bruiser) benefit from having a smaller deck. That may be a problem.
Highborne Grace: Seems a little meh. I feel like the Reservoir effect can be less restrictive.
Riptide: I'd say 'Double its stats. It costs (2) less.' Stats is used on Darkspeakerand I think you can probably get away with using it here. But if you don't want to that's fine as well.
Bruiser: I feel like he's a little too strong. At the very least make his Taunt buff +3 health. Or make him a 5/4 like you said. I get that OP 6-drops exist, but still... 5/9 taunt for 6 just seems... wrong.
Crossbolter: I think 5/3 is fine. It makes it so that losing a charge on a taunt minion is a lot more bad.
Warlord Kali-something: This guy is awesome. He would be awesome-er if you had more effects that benefited from having a bigger deck.