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    Mar 22, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on New Rogue Legendary - Face Collector

     

     

    Quote from Kaladin >>

    jfc you guys

    a card could say battlecry: summon 6 random legendaries and I'd be willing to bet you'd call it unplayable trash, regardless of anything else. 

     Dude why are you always playing the victim when someone doesn't agree with you? This card is bad for some players and you assume we criticize it for the sake of it. You automatically discredit our posts, use a strawman to get out of it and playing the good old victim role. What does a minion that summons 6 legendaries have to do with that one? A 3 mana minion with a 2/2 body who can give you a Hogger or Temporus or Lilian Voss is not a good minion for me. Not to mention it doesn't fit any current rogue archetypes. Echo is cool but using your turn 9  for three random legendaries that you can't even use asap is nothing good in an aggro meta. Even using that legendaries may not be worth against control. Turn 10 and 3 legendaries in my hand. Just an invitation to mind control or twisting nether. Not mentioning you will probably dead against a paladin, mage or hunter in turn 9 if you waste your gameplan on getting some random cards from that. This card will be good in arena and fun non-meta decks but calling it good on constructed is beyond reasoning. 
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    Mar 22, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on New Rogue Legendary - Face Collector

     

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    Quote from Kaladin >>

    I didn't say it's game breaking. 

    I said you need to be wary of that possibility with any cheap card (in other words, not immediately brushing it off as a bad card).  Also, we have the entire rest of the set to see.  Perhaps there will be neutral/Rogue cards that support this one?  Instead of simply saying, "This card is bad," ask yourself, "This card doesn't appear to be good, but what would it need in order to see play, if such a thing existed?"

     Seriously mate how can such a random card even get supported? A rogue spell with text "YOUR RANDOM LEGENDARIES THAT DID NOT START IN YOUR HAND HAVE +2/+2 AND LIFESTEAL." lmao? 
     Discounts or buffs that persist through echos would be the main way, a la summoning portal.  But blizz would be stupid to do that in a set with Echo. Also would get buffed by bounce as a drawback cards - something like the 4 mana 5/5, deathrattle bounce a random creature.
     Only first echo cards will be buffed. Rest are vanilla. 
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    Mar 22, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on New Rogue Legendary - Face Collector

     

    Quote from Kaladin >>

    I didn't say it's game breaking. 

    I said you need to be wary of that possibility with any cheap card (in other words, not immediately brushing it off as a bad card).  Also, we have the entire rest of the set to see.  Perhaps there will be neutral/Rogue cards that support this one?  Instead of simply saying, "This card is bad," ask yourself, "This card doesn't appear to be good, but what would it need in order to see play, if such a thing existed?"

     Seriously mate how can such a random card even get supported? A rogue spell with text "YOUR RANDOM LEGENDARIES THAT DID NOT START IN YOUR HAND HAVE +2/+2 AND LIFESTEAL." lmao? 
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    Mar 22, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on New Rogue Legendary - Face Collector

     

    Quote from Kaladin >>

     

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    Quote from Kaladin >>

    A lot of very incorrect stuff floating around this thread. 

    Let's look at Malchezar.  Bad card, why?  Because of random legendaries Because it diluted your deck with cards you may not want, reduced your chances of drawing cards you DO want that you specifically put in your deck.

    Confessor Paletress - Bad card, why? Because of random legendaries because as a 7-mana 5/4, it never survived a turn if you played it on 7, so you always had this dead card until turn 9 when you could get a single tick off it.  When Raza/Anduin became a thing, suddenly it's a very playable card for generating big board swings.  I would argue that even with current Raza, playing Paletress on 8 and getting a heal for 2 and summon a random legendary is not horrible. 

    Sneed's Old Shredder - Bad card, why? Because of random legendaries because at 8 mana, it's fucking expensive and it's only seen play in metas where aggro was NOT king, such as what we have now.  

    Back to Face Collector.  The random legendaries aren't what made the previous cards bad.  But what about the things that did make them bad?  Face Collector doesn't dilute your deck, it adds cards to your hand.  It doesn't require you to sacrifice a lot of tempo because of the stats, or have a dead card until turn 9.   At 3 mana, it's not expensive.  

    tl;dr This is a decent card and you all need to learn how to evaluate new cards better.

     You call every card great and get mad at the game. Maybe you should lower your expectations. This is a cheaper Rotface. Nothing more. 
      The cheaper the card is, the more you have to be aware of possible game breaking value.  
     
     Only game that card can break is the Trolden videos' meme game. 
     
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    Mar 22, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on New Rogue Legendary - Face Collector

     

    Quote from RagnarokReykr >>

    Brann Bronzebeard + This and an empty hand.... Sounds pretty epic

     

     You would possibly be dead before you have this and Brann in your empty hand from my experience in wild. Those secret mages and paladins won't let you get away with it. Not to mention giants. 
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    Mar 22, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on New Rogue Legendary - Face Collector

     

    Quote from Kaladin >>

    A lot of very incorrect stuff floating around this thread. 

    Let's look at Malchezar.  Bad card, why?  Because of random legendaries Because it diluted your deck with cards you may not want, reduced your chances of drawing cards you DO want that you specifically put in your deck.

    Confessor Paletress - Bad card, why? Because of random legendaries because as a 7-mana 5/4, it never survived a turn if you played it on 7, so you always had this dead card until turn 9 when you could get a single tick off it.  When Raza/Anduin became a thing, suddenly it's a very playable card for generating big board swings.  I would argue that even with current Raza, playing Paletress on 8 and getting a heal for 2 and summon a random legendary is not horrible. 

    Sneed's Old Shredder - Bad card, why? Because of random legendaries because at 8 mana, it's fucking expensive and it's only seen play in metas where aggro was NOT king, such as what we have now.  

    Back to Face Collector.  The random legendaries aren't what made the previous cards bad.  But what about the things that did make them bad?  Face Collector doesn't dilute your deck, it adds cards to your hand.  It doesn't require you to sacrifice a lot of tempo because of the stats, or have a dead card until turn 9.   At 3 mana, it's not expensive.  

    tl;dr This is a decent card and you all need to learn how to evaluate new cards better.

     You call every card great and get mad at the game. Maybe you should lower your expectations. This is a cheaper Rotface. Nothing more. 
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    Mar 22, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on New Warrior Spell - Warpath

    6 mana hellfire. 

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    Mar 22, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on New Rogue Legendary - Face Collector

     

    Quote from zmauls >>

    Utter garbage. "Random legendary" has never been good. Confessor, Sneed's, Rotgut... All unplayable in constructed.

    In arena this will be a decent card.

     This. Don't forget Prince Malcheezar too. This one will be a fun meme legendary with no real competitive use. This expansion looks so clueless from the first cards revealed. Hope it won't flop. 
     
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    Mar 21, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

     

    Quote from DontDirtyMyRat >>

    Cubelocks in casual. Fuck off.

     Casual is full of meta decks now. I hate people doing it. Pinnacle of being an asshole.
     
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    Mar 21, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

    Didn't play today so I am not salty but if you still see a jade druid on ranked in fucking March 2018 please rope them.

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    Mar 20, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on New Druid Minion - Gloom Stag

     

    Quote from FunPolice749 >>

    Idk if this matters but you could run Master Oakheart then have Tar Creeper, Gloom Stag, and Hadronox to be pull able.  Probably to much of a meme but it could a way for Odd Druid to have a pseudo Ultimate Infestation and it offers more immediate value at a 1 mana discount. Although if even with that they still miss something to replace Swipe (Starfall maybe?) and also lack a win condition but hopefully Witchwood covers those bases and then we could maybe see an Odd Druid sit in the lower tiers. (Highly doubt they would print broken enough cards for Odd Druid to be Tier 1 since Cube Warlock will still be around.)

     No wild growth. No swipe. No UI. No Spreading Plague. No Oaken Summons or Branching Patchs. No Wrath. For what? A hit-or-miss 9 mana combo that is not even easy to pull off? I played big druid a lot because druid is my favorite class and the times I missed the combo by having recruit minions in my hand before Oakheart were more than the times I pulled that combo. That curd is battlecry: gain 100 dust kind of card. 
     
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    Mar 20, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

     

    Quote from Morkimus >>

    1) Secret Mage in casual emotes thank you after my Renouce-lock concedes

    2) I get matched against the same Secret Mage

    Currently stuck roping this cunt since this match wouldn't be enjoyable for me anyway.

     You did nothing wrong.
     
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    Mar 19, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

    Not salty because didn't play today but everyone still playing jade druid in 2018 shall run naked in a field full of dicks. 

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    Mar 18, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on Exodia Mage - the least interactive, interesting, and fun Hearthstone deck of the past, present, and future

    I would disown my son if I saw him playing that deck. And big priest.

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    Mar 18, 2018
    Mbayoo posted a message on Group therapy! Need to blow off steam? Mega salty? Here is the place! V2

    Not salty because I didn't play today but friendly reminder to fuck everyone still playing jade druid in March 2018. 

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