Meanwhile VS data reaper shows that from d5 to legend paladin + mage represent 67% of the meta, being the two classes with 50%+ winrate
I challenge someone to point an era where 2 classes represented 2/3 of the play field
Its not an hyperbole anymore, this IS IN FACT the worst meta of ALL TIME.
We need nerfs ASAP. And not slight nerfs, I'm talking about BIG NERFS. Game is unplayable right now. Anyone still defending it just wants to abuse these 2 classes for easy wins for a few more week.s
This is definetly The worst meta of a card game I ever played, no hyperbole
I played quest rogue era, shudderwock, Jade Druid, neither of these decks had above 50% winrate overall, they had annoying polarizing matchups but they had it's counters at least that kept them from being spammed on ladder.
Right now Mage's biggest counter, Poison Rogue, a deck designed entirely to counter Mage at the cost of losing to any other deck, is barely keeping a 55% winrate against it. There is no answer, there is no deck you can pick if you hate Lunacy Mage and wants to punish them hard and farm them. You best bets will neat you a 50% winrate against it . For that reason, people are just spamming Mage , the class is close to 40% representation at Diamond 1 according to VS Data Reaper Live. The only reason why the winrate is not higher is because most matches are mirrors or the only other broken class at the moment, paladin, which is close to a coin toss also
These 2 classes represent more than 60% of the diamond ladder right now , meanwhile classes like warrior , priest, shaman, hunter are struggling to have 2% playrate.
Congratulations devs, you broke the game again. First few days of the expansion and the game feels completely unplayable if you are not one of these guys that find "fun" spamming RNG mage to climb easily on the back of a broken deck.
Even if you avoid having you Rattlegore burned by Tickatus ( since warlocks draw cards like crazy), you still can't outvalue Jaraxus infinite 6/6s or Rustwyx just with Rattlegore.
Warlock is broken, you either got extremely luck or played against bad decks/bad oponents
I don't know how this card avoided being removed from classic but OH MY GOD That was a BIG MISTAKE
Move it to HOF right now. It limits design space and this argument has been made many times about other cards that were hofed. Any Good Battlecry Minion printed becomes instantly broken in Rogue because of Shadowstep
Last expansion I was mad enough about Janice Shadowstep, but now, they bounce not only Janice but Kazakus and Kargal too! It is just out of control! Also they ALWAYS have at least one of these COMBOS in hand because they can draw their entire deck in 8 turns!
Also while you are at it Team 5, just DELETE Secret Passage. It's stupid. Enough said
I thought the past few months being below tier 4 were enough but look like devs want shaman to be unplayable for a year at least...
The new Murloc archetype is a complete fiasco. It just loses to Everything! It's so fringe! Even with god draws it still looks weak. Not even tier 5!
The Elemental archetype has not enough pay off. Lilypad is good but that's about it... That card alone can't carry an entire deck.
Bru'kan is such a slap in the face.... +3 nature spell dmg COULD be very powerful as an otk finisher... but the only nature spell that goes face is Lightning bolt ! No support at all for that gameplan.
Also shaman has NO DRAW and that makes playing otk impossible, actually it makes playing anything Impossible!
Some will say these tools are not good right now but will be good in a future expansion.... Well guess what!? Shaman needed something NOW! The class already went through a meta being unviable. The last thing we needed was another 4 months in trash tier
Why on Earth E-V-E-R-Y Deck I'm facing is completely full of Watchposts?!
It's a new expansion, people should be experimenting different strategies , right?
WRONG, because Watchposts are so broken that either you run them or you have a very very high chance of losing!
People are abusing the fact watchposts have insanely huge stats for their costs to lock the board early on! You can't play anything and if you play you will get punished hard!
They are the most played cards on HSreplay for a good reason!!! PLEASE BRING THE NERF BAT ON A HURRY!!!!
Everytime there’s a card that hard counters control , people start with drama, so predictable…
It happened before with Jade Idol, Crystal Core, Shudderwock, Open the Waygate, Kingsbane, and now Tickatus… What all the decks that ran these cards had in common: They were not op at all if you analized winrate. Yet they were still nerfed
Truth is: Control Players are spoiled brats. They want the ability to deal with aggro easily, and that is fine and balanced for them, but if another type of strategy that counters their slow style rise in popularity , even if not op across the board, they will demand nerfs . And Blizzard usually drops the hammer, lol
Why don’t you grow a pair and learn to deal with bad matchups like every other archetype do? Tickatus is fine and it`s existence discourage decks that run 25 removal spells, aka ResidentSleeper decks.
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Such a wall text to defend a broken meta, lol
Meanwhile VS data reaper shows that from d5 to legend paladin + mage represent 67% of the meta, being the two classes with 50%+ winrate
I challenge someone to point an era where 2 classes represented 2/3 of the play field
Its not an hyperbole anymore, this IS IN FACT the worst meta of ALL TIME.
We need nerfs ASAP. And not slight nerfs, I'm talking about BIG NERFS. Game is unplayable right now. Anyone still defending it just wants to abuse these 2 classes for easy wins for a few more week.s
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Why the hell am I Facing nothing but mages over and over AND OVER??
I'll tell you. Because team 5 broke the meta again. Unplayable Garbage. FIX IT RIGHT AWAY
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Mage, Mage, Paladin, Mage , Mage, Paladin ( insert random class appearing out of nowhere), Mage, Mage, Paladin
Thanks Team5, you ruined another expansion.
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The worst matchup to Lunacy mage according to hearthstats is still 45/55.;
So there's no such thing as "counter' to mage right now
That's why it's so broken. Even if you try to desing a deck entirely to counter it, you will end up with something close to a coin toss
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This is definetly The worst meta of a card game I ever played, no hyperbole
I played quest rogue era, shudderwock, Jade Druid, neither of these decks had above 50% winrate overall, they had annoying polarizing matchups but they had it's counters at least that kept them from being spammed on ladder.
Right now Mage's biggest counter, Poison Rogue, a deck designed entirely to counter Mage at the cost of losing to any other deck, is barely keeping a 55% winrate against it. There is no answer, there is no deck you can pick if you hate Lunacy Mage and wants to punish them hard and farm them. You best bets will neat you a 50% winrate against it . For that reason, people are just spamming Mage , the class is close to 40% representation at Diamond 1 according to VS Data Reaper Live. The only reason why the winrate is not higher is because most matches are mirrors or the only other broken class at the moment, paladin, which is close to a coin toss also
These 2 classes represent more than 60% of the diamond ladder right now , meanwhile classes like warrior , priest, shaman, hunter are struggling to have 2% playrate.
Congratulations devs, you broke the game again. First few days of the expansion and the game feels completely unplayable if you are not one of these guys that find "fun" spamming RNG mage to climb easily on the back of a broken deck.
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Cassino Mage and Cheat-Secret-Paladin at Diamond 5, over and over and over
This meta is a complete disaster
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Nice , trash meta again
Braindead Secret Pala Tier S
Cheat Rogue still as broken as usual, the second force
and the two possibilities to deal with those are full removal mage/lock
Midrange Druid/Hunter/Shaman ? A joke as always
Seems like we can't play a masculine deck these days...
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Even if you avoid having you Rattlegore burned by Tickatus ( since warlocks draw cards like crazy), you still can't outvalue Jaraxus infinite 6/6s or Rustwyx just with Rattlegore.
Warlock is broken, you either got extremely luck or played against bad decks/bad oponents
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I hate every 'magic' class
But the order of hate , for me, is
Priest
Warlock
Mage
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This meta feels horrible
Classes are SO unbalanced.
Paladin and Rogue seems to have everything.
Meanwhile a lot of classes like Shaman Priest Hunter Druid feels like dumpster tier.
On top of that Half the decks are running the watchpost package to have any chance.
It's getting old preeeety fast
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It's broken, period. Every deck I face have multiple towers in it.
Feels even worse playing a class like druid that has no removal.
They basically drop 2 watchposts early on and you can concede
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I thought the past few months being below tier 4 were enough but look like devs want shaman to be unplayable for a year at least...
The new Murloc archetype is a complete fiasco. It just loses to Everything! It's so fringe! Even with god draws it still looks weak. Not even tier 5!
The Elemental archetype has not enough pay off. Lilypad is good but that's about it... That card alone can't carry an entire deck.
Bru'kan is such a slap in the face.... +3 nature spell dmg COULD be very powerful as an otk finisher... but the only nature spell that goes face is Lightning bolt ! No support at all for that gameplan.
Also shaman has NO DRAW and that makes playing otk impossible, actually it makes playing anything Impossible!
Some will say these tools are not good right now but will be good in a future expansion.... Well guess what!? Shaman needed something NOW! The class already went through a meta being unviable. The last thing we needed was another 4 months in trash tier
SHAME ON YOU TEAM 5!
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Why on Earth E-V-E-R-Y Deck I'm facing is completely full of Watchposts?!
It's a new expansion, people should be experimenting different strategies , right?
WRONG, because Watchposts are so broken that either you run them or you have a very very high chance of losing!
People are abusing the fact watchposts have insanely huge stats for their costs to lock the board early on! You can't play anything and if you play you will get punished hard!
They are the most played cards on HSreplay for a good reason!!! PLEASE BRING THE NERF BAT ON A HURRY!!!!
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Everytime there’s a card that hard counters control , people start with drama, so predictable…
It happened before with Jade Idol, Crystal Core, Shudderwock, Open the Waygate, Kingsbane, and now Tickatus…
What all the decks that ran these cards had in common: They were not op at all if you analized winrate. Yet they were still nerfed
Truth is: Control Players are spoiled brats. They want the ability to deal with aggro easily, and that is fine and balanced for them, but if another type of strategy that counters their slow style rise in popularity , even if not op across the board, they will demand nerfs . And Blizzard usually drops the hammer, lol
Why don’t you grow a pair and learn to deal with bad matchups like every other archetype do? Tickatus is fine and it`s existence discourage decks that run 25 removal spells, aka ResidentSleeper decks.