Hearthpwn

DUDE....Hearthstone fucking SUCKS. It is living off of the reputation it established 5 years ago when it was a (mostly) very very very good game.  It fucking sucks now, though.  I feel sorry for anyone trying to actually play it now and never having experienced when it actually WAS fun to play.

Quote from evelil >>

Lol don’t be so mad. Im no dusting solarian because I will playing him all the time in my HL deck. I got enough dust/gold for next exp anyway

 Who's mad??  Oh wait....you are one of THOSE idiots that think everybody who disagrees with you is either "mad" or "fake news".  There's not even a shred of anger in this thread.

Quote from thazud >>

This seems like a salt thread. Did you just lose to a deathrattle deck? Umbra and Rivendare are not part of any issue related to Hearthstone 

 Whaaaaaat????  Did you even read the OP, or just the title??  Getaclue.

Quote from Hooghout >>

So in this little thread the fanboy-pundits and the ordinary ones bind together once again as Hearthstone Mandarins. Doing the bidding of their intellectual masters riding the bandwagon as fellow travellers defending skill-contemptious card design.

Let me look over the weeds.

Did angry kids just found a new Barnes to blame?

Typical comment of an fanboy-commoner. No arguments, not even bad ones. These are the Blizzards foot soldiers. Cannon feed. Not much respect.

That is exactly what I say about the card that I recently lost to.

Same as the above. The stupidity flows like a festering wound.

If you outplayed your opponent for several turns, there is no single one card that will just hand them the win. If a single Classic/Basic Set card is enough to fully turn the game you say you were outplaying your opponent in, then you overestimated your position

Ah yes, here we have true HS-pundit comment. Always getting the likes he's looking for. Outplaying your opponent for several turns? There's hardly such thing as outplaying your opponent in HS. For that the game is too aggressive, the skill floor too low. Not to speak of to steep a RPS, combined withan abundance of randomness. But he good try. You got your like!

It doesn't undermine anything. It simply adds a very annoying aspect to the game. It forces the player to contemplate at all times, if the opponent plays the card, what is the way in which it will fuck you up the hardest, out of every card in the Classic and Basic Sets.

Same speaker. Same pundit. A joy to read bandwagon commentators. Zephrys doesn't force anything. It is designed as a extremely political card that benefits aggressive decks more than the more thoughtful, slower gameplay. It is designed to attract players looking for fast and easy winfix strategy. In danger of losing the board? Play Zeph. wisely for the right tempo swing.

Losing to this card is like losing against junior, while you are the more experienced senior. One time, no problem, but as a systemic disease it's target audience oriented. It is there to curb winning based on skill.

 

 1). Your condescending tone is disgusting.  GTFO with that.

2). Zephrys is for aggro decks?  REALLY?  That's just plain WRONG.  What successful aggro highlander deck has there ever been??  None.  And seeing why is SO easy.  Aggro decks rely on the consistency of getting on the board early and maintaining control of the board.  Highlander decks are the OPPOSITE of consistent.  Apart from that, there are never 30 aggro viable cards available to a class at any one time.  The notion that Zephrys is meant for aggro is LAUGHABLE.

3).  Zephrys does what?  It REACTS to the current board state.  By definition, it is a REACTIVE card and, as such, is best suited to a deck that has that play style...aka control (and some midrange) decks, primarily. 

To all the people in denial....if you can't see the many MANY signs that HS is losing it's playerbase, and has been for a while now, you just aren't very perceptive.  The signs are literally everywhere and the cherry on top is the devs asking people who play less what can be done to improve the game such that they might play more again.  But hey...keep on ignoring the obvious.  It's probably how you manage to get through your life in the first place. 

Quote from Kovachut >>

A small commentary on some people's posts:

To be fair no one (or very few people) thought Fungalmancer was a strong card, because in the early KoFT some cards weren't nerfed yet. Raza Priest was running rampant, Corridor Creeper, Bonemare and Patches the Pirate were the stronger inclusions for odd decks.

 

 Ummmm there were no odd decks during KotFT.  Baku is a Witchwood card....two expansions later, lol.  And Fungalmancer is a K&C card...so you are kinda confused.

And/or you need to git gud.

Quote from ColdFusion123 >>

Congrats for your rank 2!

If you can hit rank 5 constantly, you can hit legend, it's only a matter of investing more time. 

 That, IMO, is not 100% true.  Some people just do not have the emotional makeup to get to Legendary.  There is actually a pretty big difference in rank 5 compared to Legendary.  Someone who tilts, for example, will probably never make Legend, even though they might make rank 5 because the difference between winning and losing above rank 5 can be so small...if you are a tilter, it's a harsh environment to thrive in.  I say this because the guy who introduced me to HS himself could never make Legend no matter how many games he played...but made rank 5 90% of the time.  Topped out at rank 1 once or twice, but still...never Legend.  And IMO it was because he simply couldn't handle the pressure he put on himself when he would get close.

Quote from TheMexijew >>

I'm a casual f2p player who's been around religiously since before Naxx. I jump between wild and standard, get all the adventures with gold, and get dozens of packs from every expansion (all with gold).

This month, I hit legend for the first time. It felt like a big deal! I finally got the card back and prestige I've looked up to other players for having. But after the pride and celebration wore off, I thought "What now?" I'm currently content with being #2680 in Wild Legend. Do I just keep playing and vie for a higher spot for pride? Do I turn my sights on Standard? Other than bragging rights, what do I do now? Daily quests and battlegrounds? I had never felt the Hearthstone fatigue until now. I always had something to strive for, but now I guess I just twiddle thumbs until next season and try again then.

What do others do when they start to feel that end-of-the-month-hearthstone-ennui?

 I made it for the first time last month, and again this month.  Also in Wild, using my favorite deck of all time...Razakus Reno Priest.  I see myself being done with the game very soon, actually.  I can't stand standard anymore...WAAAAAAAAY too much repetition.  I mean, Wild isn't great either, but Standard is just out of control from top to bottom with 95% of decks from a very small handful of the exact same decks.  HS has been fun...I really loved it for several years.  But it's felt like more of a chore than fun for a while now.  I may well open the packs for the new expansion and then be done.

Quote from mistermath314 >>

I don't understand why people hate Leeroy Jenkins so much :P 

Ye, you can combo with him... in ONE CLASS (Rogue)

Fireball does the same amount of burst damage, ignores taunt, costs 1 less mana, and can also be used in combos (see Exodia Mage),

Kor'kron Elite is currently the most overstatted charge minion (until the next expansion, when demon hunter comes out)

Reckless Rocketeer might do 1 less damage and cost 1 more mana, but it doesn't summon two 1/1 whelps

Arcanite Reaper does 10 damage for 5 mana, easily outclassing Leeroy Jenkins as a finisher

 

So in conclusion, I plead you to stop jumping on the "hate leeroy" bandwagon. There are far more powerful finishers and far more powerful aggro cards.

The only card you didn't mention that wasn't a class card is Reckless Rocketeer.   

The others are class cards.  

Leeroy is the most oppressive non-class aggro card in the game.  It's the most popular finisher.   

It also limits design space.  Good luck with Reckless Rocketeer.

Quote from b1ak1ce >>

Carnivorous Cube was pretty ho-hummed if I remember correctly, at least in the early days when it was first announced.
Giggling Inventor ... were obvious ones that were slept on

Thats just wrong.

the entire hunter class

No need to bitch about the length of their pod cast anymore.  Time-stamps have been in place for a few months now.  Everything is as it should be.  Move along...

Shamanstone is the worst meta ever, second one is probably mech mage...IMO

That is a broad and inaccurate statement. Warlock was in a bad spot before cubelock, and Paladin was awful in standard before Un'Goro.

Also, Aggro Shaman, Pirate Warrior, Raza priest, Keleseth Rogue and several other decks from other classes have reigned surpreme in that timespan.

Quote from parishbishop >>

what a lame, cancerous deck. druid has too much armor and card draw. if you have half a brain, you cant lose with the deck, unless you get your combo pieces burned. its ridiculous to play against. worse than Shudderwock. 

i feel taken advantage of by that deck. why anyone would play that is beyond me. yes you get wins, but theres no thought too it. just wow.

p.s  i dont give a flying hoot what you all think about my post. i know i am correct and not alone in how i feel about it.

 because its fun and you get to read crybaby posts as bonus ^^

You did well to get your opponent down to 10 health after 7 turns - don't beat yourself up about "lucking" the means to finish them off. Playing as Mage or against Mage I find Pyroblast *sometimes* is the final nail in the coffin but at least as often it's a big mana card in the hand that can't be played or not to any benefit.  It's nowhere as flexible or valuble as Fireball for instance.

Only cards that are seriously unbalancing Arena should be removed from it in my view - and Pyroblast is a long long way from doing that.

Bizarre post. When any deck gets a "nuts draw" it usually wins - that is a nuts draw, so it will usually win. But it doesn't always draw like that.

And, even with that draw, it has done nothing until turn 6. Most aggro decks could have killed it by then.

Equally, the early hadronox can be stolen by priest or polymorphed by mage, both of which can then will a value game.