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Quote from Hooghout >>

So in this little thread the fanboy-pundits and the ordinary ones bind together once again as Hearthstone Mandarins. Doing the bidding of their intellectual masters riding the bandwagon as fellow travellers defending skill-contemptious card design.

Let me look over the weeds.

Did angry kids just found a new Barnes to blame?

Typical comment of an fanboy-commoner. No arguments, not even bad ones. These are the Blizzards foot soldiers. Cannon feed. Not much respect.

That is exactly what I say about the card that I recently lost to.

Same as the above. The stupidity flows like a festering wound.

If you outplayed your opponent for several turns, there is no single one card that will just hand them the win. If a single Classic/Basic Set card is enough to fully turn the game you say you were outplaying your opponent in, then you overestimated your position

Ah yes, here we have true HS-pundit comment. Always getting the likes he's looking for. Outplaying your opponent for several turns? There's hardly such thing as outplaying your opponent in HS. For that the game is too aggressive, the skill floor too low. Not to speak of to steep a RPS, combined withan abundance of randomness. But he good try. You got your like!

It doesn't undermine anything. It simply adds a very annoying aspect to the game. It forces the player to contemplate at all times, if the opponent plays the card, what is the way in which it will fuck you up the hardest, out of every card in the Classic and Basic Sets.

Same speaker. Same pundit. A joy to read bandwagon commentators. Zephrys doesn't force anything. It is designed as a extremely political card that benefits aggressive decks more than the more thoughtful, slower gameplay. It is designed to attract players looking for fast and easy winfix strategy. In danger of losing the board? Play Zeph. wisely for the right tempo swing.

Losing to this card is like losing against junior, while you are the more experienced senior. One time, no problem, but as a systemic disease it's target audience oriented. It is there to curb winning based on skill.

 

 1). Your condescending tone is disgusting.  GTFO with that.

2). Zephrys is for aggro decks?  REALLY?  That's just plain WRONG.  What successful aggro highlander deck has there ever been??  None.  And seeing why is SO easy.  Aggro decks rely on the consistency of getting on the board early and maintaining control of the board.  Highlander decks are the OPPOSITE of consistent.  Apart from that, there are never 30 aggro viable cards available to a class at any one time.  The notion that Zephrys is meant for aggro is LAUGHABLE.

3).  Zephrys does what?  It REACTS to the current board state.  By definition, it is a REACTIVE card and, as such, is best suited to a deck that has that play style...aka control (and some midrange) decks, primarily. 

I used priest with the reduce a minions attack hero power and the standard deck.  I beat stage 5 in my first try, and was never really challenged.  Had the minion +1/+1 passive buff and the random card cost passive buff.  I also got the shuffle 5 random treasures into your deck card.  So yeah.  There was one game I had the discover a legendary minion and put 5 copies on the board on turn 3 costing 0. 

Quote from Kaladin >>

yeah they resurrected aggro. 

if you're not playing aggro or mechs, you shouldn't play hearthstone right now. 

 Yep.  The game is a disgusting aggro fest right now.  Not gonna be playing for a while, myself.

Played one game.  My friends list is COMPLETELY erased. 

To all the people in denial....if you can't see the many MANY signs that HS is losing it's playerbase, and has been for a while now, you just aren't very perceptive.  The signs are literally everywhere and the cherry on top is the devs asking people who play less what can be done to improve the game such that they might play more again.  But hey...keep on ignoring the obvious.  It's probably how you manage to get through your life in the first place. 

They aren't getting nerfed this close to rotation and after 2 nerfs already this cycle, nerds.  If they get nerfed, it will be with an eye towards Wild, where they will be uncontrollable.  

Quote from Kovachut >>

A small commentary on some people's posts:

To be fair no one (or very few people) thought Fungalmancer was a strong card, because in the early KoFT some cards weren't nerfed yet. Raza Priest was running rampant, Corridor Creeper, Bonemare and Patches the Pirate were the stronger inclusions for odd decks.

 

 Ummmm there were no odd decks during KotFT.  Baku is a Witchwood card....two expansions later, lol.  And Fungalmancer is a K&C card...so you are kinda confused.

Quote from endlesstides >>

RegisKillbin rated Frost Lich Jaina a One Star Card. Ha.. .

 But for me it's Frostwolf Warlord after the Nerfs to Odd Paladin. 

 Not a very good example.  Frostwolf Warlord was in fact played quite a lot in the early days.

And/or you need to git gud.

Wow 22320 dust.  The new Wallet Warrior.

Mana wyrm has never been in "every deck".  Freeze mage didn't use it.  Big Spell mage doesn't use it.  In fact, pretty much any mage control deck hasn't used it.  

The reason it is getting nerfed was mentioned in the post...it limits design space.

Quote from Aeris >>

Quote from Bullard >>

I dopped Millhouse and golden Hogger from the 10-packs so pretty pleased considering it was only 6-packs ago that I dropped my last legendary. I felt like the PT had reset - either that or I just got really lucky.

 Dude, a pity timer reset would actually decrease the odds of getting another legendary soon, so what you say does not make any sense at all...

 LOL.  Good call Aeris.  Math...how does it work?

Seems like they hotfixed it...works for me now.

Quote from ColdFusion123 >>

Congrats for your rank 2!

If you can hit rank 5 constantly, you can hit legend, it's only a matter of investing more time. 

 That, IMO, is not 100% true.  Some people just do not have the emotional makeup to get to Legendary.  There is actually a pretty big difference in rank 5 compared to Legendary.  Someone who tilts, for example, will probably never make Legend, even though they might make rank 5 because the difference between winning and losing above rank 5 can be so small...if you are a tilter, it's a harsh environment to thrive in.  I say this because the guy who introduced me to HS himself could never make Legend no matter how many games he played...but made rank 5 90% of the time.  Topped out at rank 1 once or twice, but still...never Legend.  And IMO it was because he simply couldn't handle the pressure he put on himself when he would get close.

Quote from Senfgurke >>

What do we want? Appropriate rewards for our time investment .

When do we want it? NOW!

 

Aside from that, it seems really awesome.

 HS:  Here's some new extra content, what do you think?  Pretty cool, eh?

Senfgurke:   WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!  I WANT TO BE REWARDED FOR PLAYING THE EXTRA CONTENT THAT BLIZZARD DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO CREATE AT ALL!  WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!

Me:  Once again, some people will LITERALLY complain about EVERYTHING.  The "You owe me" generation at it's finest.