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You either play cancer decks like mech and Murloc or you play "fair" value decks that are incredibly slow and get outvalue by any other class, even Hunter.

This has been going on for a full year now, the Year of the Dragon was the worst year for Paladin yet, barely any change in how to play it. No real support to any different archetype that hasn't been there since boomsday. 

Just awful. Hopefully the next expansion brings joy to the class again.

Pretty much what the title asks. I've been trying to climb the ladder for the last couple weeks. And whenever I think I have a grasp of what I will be facing, I change my class and deck to counter what I've been seeing non-stop. 

For example, I see face hunter and dragon hunter non-stop at rank 6, 10 games I play, 8 out of the 10 are those two decks, so I switch to Mech Paladin since it has a favorable win rate.

Immediately after, all I face is paladins and priests for the next 10 games. No other classes. Its the same day too and It was around the same rank.

This isn't the only time I have noticed this but its the most recent. So it makes me wonder if there's a algorithm that favors certain classes agaisn't the class you are playing.

You are facing a Embiggen Druid Deck.

He goes second and gets the coin.

On his first turn, he plays embiggen + Breath of Dreams that procs.

What do you do? Concede or something else? Bonus points for explaining which deck you are.

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 I'm starting to think that thread has been a big mistake.

Nobody ever listens to anyone that has any criticism or points out something weird about the game, Its always "oh, you aren't a sheep like the rest of us? go post on that containtment thread that literally nobody cares about nor reads".

I thought this was gonna be a fun brawl, but its 100% rng, the wishes won't save you if you get a bunch of 1 mana trash cards and your opponent keeps getting high mana legendaries on the later turns. (not that It happened to me or anything).

After playing non-stop today. can be easily concluded that Mage will at most end up being a tier 3 the rest of this expansion. Its too slow to gain momentum to win agaisn't warrior on any of its decks.

Khadgar Mage is too slow and incredibly suspectible to aggro right now. 

Cyclone Mage doesn't generate enough value to compete with regular mid-range or control decks.

Secret mage is mostly a meme. 

It fucking sucks man, blizzard really can't do any real balancing without killing classes for entire expansions.

Another fucking early cancer combo brawl. We literally just had one and yet here is another one.

No matter the stats of your minions or the amount you have. Unless the board is literally only tokens with 0 attack that damn 5 mana card always makes sure the priest gets the best possible result. I try to play around it literally every single game I see a Priest yet no matter what, it always fully wipes the board. From my last 100 interactions with that card, I can conclude the card is rigged to be a board wipe if the conditions are meet. There's no way its "random".

This card has been a problem in the game for at least a few years now. A lot of people hate when Priest gets a good spot in the meta and almost every single time, its because of this card existing along with expansion cards that support it somehow.

Most recent famous examples are of course Raza Highlander priest, being able to machine gun down your health with its hero power + this card. and atm. Every single Priest archetype using this card as a win condition. Both Clone Priest by comboing it to do over 40+ damage. Or Control priest by using alextraxa, and then using it between 2 to 3 times thanks to shadow visions to kill you with low resources. 

Its biggest problem is just the fact that it does 5 free damage to the face for only 2 mana on a class who's identity is normally more oriented towards control and mid-range stuff. Meanwhile, the agressive hunter (yeah, I know) can also do 5 damage, but it costs 3 mana instead of 2 and it requires Rexxar to have a specific kind of minion on the field for it to work. 

The problem just got even bigger now that most decks that could do decent agaisn't priest got nerfed while Priest got nothing touched. I am aware that some problems will be solved once the rotation comes (no more shadow visions or shadowreaper for extra damage for example), but I really think the card has to either go to the hall of fame at this point, or get a small nerf to make it just a bit harder to use than currently. 

Thanks everyone for the suggestions, I'm checking all of them out see which one I can try :)

Why does every fucking druid gets either double embdiggen or embdiggen+breath of dreams 1st turn (coin) every single game? I watched a friend being bashed with it and I just completed 10 games STRAIGHT (his and mine). That is followed by a 3/2  untargetable, 5/4 untargetable, etc. every game! This is while I can't in way more cards draw a 5-cost AoE I have 2 of.  At some point "R"(NG) statistics has to work the other way. Meaning I should get blindfold 2 wins, while they get those cards buried so deep, just to somehow have an ROI here.

It literally makes no sense. 

Are there ***holes in real life?

Sure.

Does that mean we should all have to deal with ***holes every second of every game we play?

F*** NO!

Context matters.  If someone wants to play a game to unwind, relax from miscellaneous BS they've had to deal with in the rest of their life, what's the problem with that?  None.  There is no problem with that.  Clearly Blizzard agrees at least 95% with me, since they've limited HS to emotes and not full text, and they've added the ability to squelch emotes.  Only thing which is missing is a box to tick in the menu to auto-squealch everyone, and yeah, of course it should be added, and of course it's silly that they haven't done it before now.  Letting folks decide for themselves what they do and don't want to deal with is the height of freedom.

Anyone saying someone should have to deal with rudeness to play a game?  You're an ***hole, go **** yourself.

It's not the end of society because folks can decide how much or how little they want to interact with an opponent in a digital card game we're all playing for fun.

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People can do whatever shit they want with their money, no one has the right to tell others what to do or not. And of course, it's not our fault there are so many poor Hearthstone players out there... ;)

I wonder how it feels to be poor and powerless... I guess I will never know, LMAO!!! XD

 Hahahahaha same. Must be weak sauce to be poor and powerless!!!!

 Don't be such shitstains

I could not give a shit about battlegrounds, its balance patches or tribal inclusions. It's the dullest play mode that they've ever inflicted on us...

I was going to start a thread about battlegrounds being a pile of crap but I thought I'll just get pointed in this direction by some self-appointed forum wise guy.

First of all, if he plays Coin plus Breath on turn one, I'd always play it out, because the guy is an idiot.  Even with the breath, the coin is better use if held past turn 3.

But as to the substance of your question, if the guy opens with Embiggen plus Breath of Dreams and I'm playing anything but Full Face Gally Warrior or Zoo Lock or something equally aggressive, I concede.

I'm not for this behavior usually, but the winrate on his part at that point is so ungodly high, I honestly think if you are trying to hit high legend ranks or whatever rank cutoff you like, you are better served saving the time.  You just won't be able to do anything more than about 5% of the time.

If you're not uber-concerned about your finishing rank, it's still frustrating, but by all means, shoot for the stars.

More likely he means, that 1 wish will not save your game if you had only trash cards, while your opponent has good cards. 1 wish will clear 1 board, but thats it.

4 days until no more death knights!

10 games, 9 times Mage, dead every single game on turn 6, worst brawl ever.

They are all over in ranks 15 and higher so I've faced plenty. It doesn't matter what deck I am playing. Even with a PERFECT draw on something like Pirate Warrior you can't top a half-lucky druid. They have too much power in nearly every area of this game - they can trigger huge amounts of armor, they can summon giant boards, they have huge card draw, they have decent wipes and good removal, and they can do all of it whenever they want thanks to ramp. By turn 6 as a perfectly played pirate warrior I will face down a Druid at 4 Health who can (thanks to a DK hero power that is massively unbalanced) gain 3 armor a turn, plus Earthen scales himself for another 12 armor while still summoning 7/7 and 8/8 minions and drawing cards in a single turn. There is no comeback potential or way to take down a Druid once you get past turn 6 (when they are now sitting at 10 mana per turn along with at least 1 innervate waiting). This needs to be addressed by Blizzard because Druid is above a 62% winrate on hsreplay, the highest winrate a deck has ever had in this game, and it's only not higher because at rank 5 and above 60% of the decks are all druid so it's Druid vs Druid. .